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Canon RF 200-800 image thread

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p.10 #1 · p.10 #1 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

lsquare wrote:
Wow, so is the consensus here that the RF 200-800mm is better than the RF 100-500 L?

The 200-800 is superior between 501 and 800. Below 500mm I prefer the 100-500, mostly due to the size difference. The slight diff in IQ is minute in comparison to the easy handling of the smaller lens. As is the minute diff between the optics of the two lenses compared to all the other stuff that getting an image includes (atmospherics, shutter speed, ISO etc etc). Then we have the artistic part that after all is the great decider.

Aug 16, 2024 at 06:50 AM

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p.10 #2 · p.10 #2 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

The 200-800 is quite sharp, although not quite in the same league as the RF 100-500L or the competing Sony FE 200-600G, both of which I currently own.

It's a great lens for the price, but some of the corners Canon cut to keep the price low are detrimental to the handling of the lens, particularly is the big, clumsy, and non-removable tripod collar and the telescoping zoom design. The lack of sophisticated coatings results in noticeably lower contrast compared the the L-series lenses, and under some conditions, I've found that large bright areas in the scene can result in internal flare and further loss of contrast with that lens.

I can't decide if the RF 200-800 is a better option than the equally clumsy combination of the 100-500L with teleconverters. If I could only pick one, it would probably be the 100-500L plus the converters, because you can break the combo down to take up a lot less space in your camera bag compared to the 200-800. That, plus I would never give up my 100-500L if I were shooting Canon; the 200-800 really adds to the size and weight of the camera bag since it doesn't replace any other lenses.

It's a shame that there's such a big jump in price from the 100-500L to the RF 600 f4L; Nikon and Sony have what I feel are much more attractive options to cover that range in their respective systems. I've owned the RF 200-800 twice now, and just couldn't justify keeping it.

Aug 16, 2024 at 11:59 AM

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p.10 #3 · p.10 #3 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Z250SA wrote:
The 200-800 is superior between 501 and 800.

I guess that would be because you can't shoot at over 501mm with the bare 100-500

Aug 16, 2024 at 01:15 PM

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p.10 #4 · p.10 #4 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Imagemaster wrote:
I guess that would be because you can't shoot at over 501mm with the bare 100-500

No. Or yes! Attach it to any Canon cropper and you, yes even You, get those nice 501-800mm field of view angles. In addition you get those high value 160-199mm that the 200-800 is sorely lacking. All in such a handy package. If Big C just could bring us a R1 class cropper, I just might sell my last kidney...

(no, you don´t have to point out the consequences

Aug 17, 2024 at 04:30 AM

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p.10 #5 · p.10 #5 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

dj63401 wrote:
I would not say better. The 100-500 is a special lens with excellent quality and build. The 200-800 seems to be a very good lens, especially if you need extra reach. If you want the best image quality and you shoot in the 100-500 range, the 100-500 is an excellent choice. If you need reach because your subjects are usually far off, the 200-800 is a good tool to get very good images if conditions are good.
From my limited experience(3 months) with the 200-800 and a couple years plus with the 100-500, they both play well with the 1.4 and...Show more →

My view is that it comes down to simple issues. 200-800 generally:
- less than 200 is rarely an issue for me. 200-800 flexibility is way better than 100-500 (with 1.4x).
- 500-800 is quite commonly desirable
- The 200-800 is small enough and light enough to be useful in my car
- The 200-800 is light enough that its very nice out of the car - walking around
- The iq from 200-500 is quite good. The iq 500-800 is good. I don't like adapters - choosing when to have them on causes misses and leaving them on defeats the purpose of shorter 100-500 - that's why I like my 200-400 better.

So for me, in summary, unless you rarely go beyond 500mm, or shoot indoors, I would recommend that 200-800 over 100-500. eg most people shooting outdoors. If I am shooting indoors - the 200-400's f4 is a big deal. Or 70-200/2.8. The 100-500 was always awkward for me, tempting for IQ but the combination of shorter than my 600f4, slower than my 200-400, and expensive to not use a lot. But it depends on how often you find a great subject urgently at a distance - me lots with bears.

Aug 17, 2024 at 09:09 AM

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p.10 #6 · p.10 #6 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Killdeer at 800mm. I have not shot much with just the native 200-800, mostly with a extender. Getting back to more normal subjects and crossed paths with a killdeer yesterday. Happy with results.

DR5C7327-Enhanced-NR Killdeer in the grass by David Johnson, on Flickr

Aug 17, 2024 at 04:55 PM

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p.10 #7 · p.10 #7 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Yesterday, after talking to my next door Neigbour who is a othorpodic surgeon, and him telling me my broken foot (backpacking incident 25km/1500m away from trailhead, with a helicopter ride 3 weeks ago) would get better faster if I got it out of the airboot cast and walked more, I decided I was tired of being in the house, and I asked my buddy Dan to drive me around looking for bears and put on my hiking boots and went looking for bears.

We found 1 really healthy boar in the late hour that was just like a vacuum cleaner. Turning over rocks, eating berries, eating grubs... and mostly ignoring us. He has about a good month of eating before the food gets scarcer. And the temperatures are starting to be more reasonable down into the 40's at night.

Anyway here are my best shots, hobbling around with my 200-800, taking pictures of my friendly grizzly. It's still tough to get in the car [and I certainly cannot outrun the bear] and I cannot drive my stick shift jeep yet, but I found a bear! 800mm is quite handy.

I am waiting for my R5ii call tomorrow and wondering - is it going to do better than my R5? The iso 12k with big mm is sweet.

Canon EOS R5 RF200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM lens 242mm f/6.3 1/640s 4000 ISO -0.7 EV

Canon EOS R5 RF200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM lens 455mm f/8.0 1/1000s 12800 ISO -0.7 EV

Canon EOS R5 RF200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM lens 707mm f/9.0 1/1600s 12800 ISO -0.7 EV

Aug 21, 2024 at 01:02 AM

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p.10 #8 · p.10 #8 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Hi Scott, these are really nice Grizzly images. I'm glad to hear you're out and about so soon after your accident. I'm still in the early stages of using my 200-800mm, but so far I'm liking it.

Cheers

Rudy

Aug 21, 2024 at 03:50 AM

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p.10 #9 · p.10 #9 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Rudy Pohl wrote:
Hi Scott, these are really nice Grizzly images. I'm glad to hear you're out and about so soon after your accident. I'm still in the early stages of using my 200-800mm, but so far I'm liking it.

Cheers

Rudy

Thanks Rudy - notice in my pictures I have been keeping the shutter fast (vs 1/mm) and processing to overcome 12k iso. I set my R5 to auto iso with a push to faster shutter in the default. The R5 high iso frames are very malleable and useful vs motion blur. Which makes the 200-800 a fantastic bear lens - they move in and out and where possible it's nice not to annoy them by being too close. I am not saying that this approach is best, but it sure works for me with the bears in low light. I think the setting has resulted in some good shots (less motion blur and more denoise work) at 1 hour before sunset 8pm but with the mountains heavily shadowing the scene.

Aug 21, 2024 at 10:22 AM

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p.10 #10 · p.10 #10 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Z250SA wrote:
The 200-800 is superior between 501 and 800. Below 500mm I prefer the 100-500, mostly due to the size difference. The slight diff in IQ is minute in comparison to the easy handling of the smaller lens. As is the minute diff between the optics of the two lenses compared to all the other stuff that getting an image includes (atmospherics, shutter speed, ISO etc etc). Then we have the artistic part that after all is the great decider.

I agree that it's mostly a debate over faster/lighter/smaller 100-500 vs versatility of 200-800. The 100-500 is easier to handle but for my subjects (grizzly who move in and out and are dangerous) I like the 200-800 better. It is smaller/lighter than my 200-400 (560 f5.6) and I don't have fuss with 1.4x while juggling lens and worrying about being eaten. In bad light I prefer my 200-400 over 100-500, and in better light the 200-800 range is way more versatile. My 600/f4/1.4x requires a pretty still subject that remains far - like long shots of wolves in Yellowstone. I was lucky to not buy the 100-500 because I preferred RF100-400 in close and 200-400 (560) further out - and now the 200-800 is just the perfect range for in car and jump out of the car, or walk a km for marmot or pica, so I saved $3000 which I would have rarely used.

Not saying you are wrong but your subject/muscle/space likely defines the best lens - whether it moves a lot in and out. I use 600/f4/1.4x handheld for polar bears, so it's the size not the weight that is the biggest factor for me.

Aug 21, 2024 at 10:49 AM

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p.10 #11 · p.10 #11 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

The other version of the 200-800mm.

Canon EOS R5 RF100-400mm F5.6-8 IS USM + EXTENDER RF2x lens 800mm f/16.0 1/125s 1600 ISO -0.5 EV

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Aug 21, 2024 at 07:01 PM

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p.10 #12 · p.10 #12 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Beautiful Tony

Aug 22, 2024 at 05:19 AM

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p.10 #13 · p.10 #13 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

wish I was using a low shutter speed, but still happy

Canon EOS R3 RF200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM lens 672mm f/9.0 1/2500s 800 ISO 0.0 EV

Aug 26, 2024 at 12:48 AM

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p.10 #14 · p.10 #14 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Few images from the weekend with R3+RF200-800.
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#7- Mandatory Chipmunk photo

Sep 01, 2024 at 08:11 PM

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p.10 #15 · p.10 #15 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Belted Kingfisher female.
R5 MKII
RF200-800 1st photo
RF200-800 with RF1.4 2nd photo

DR520385-Enhanced-NRBelted Kingfisher (LR) by David Johnson, on Flickr

DR520297-Enhanced-NRBelted Kingfisher (LR) by David Johnson, on Flickr

Sep 03, 2024 at 11:53 AM

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p.10 #16 · p.10 #16 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

CIAS TORONTO 2024.


	© cs3is 2023


	© cs3is 2023

Sep 03, 2024 at 05:03 PM

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p.10 #17 · p.10 #17 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Seeing an Ibis in Ottawa is a bit like seeing a Polar Bear in Florida, but that's what we had last week! It was just after sunrise and I was lucky enough to be there and record a few clips.

Canon R5, RF200-800 + RF1.4x tc, edited in Davinci Resolve 19

After 2 long weekend rental trials this past Summer I bought this lens primarily for doing wildlife videos of very distance subjects. It works wonderfully together with the RF 1.4x tc especially when shooting in the down-sampled video formats like 4K30 Fine and 4K60 crop. It do not use this combo for stills, but I do use the 200-800 alone without the 1.4x.

Sep 17, 2024 at 03:53 AM

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p.10 #18 · p.10 #18 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Catch of the day! Belted Kingfisher female with her big one! Obvious how they got the name "kingfisher". Ted Shanks Conservation Area in Pike County, MO earlier this week. R5 MKII 200-800 with 1.4X, a ton of crop.

DR521142_DxO Belted Kingfisher with big fish by David Johnson, on Flickr

Sep 19, 2024 at 02:32 PM

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p.10 #19 · p.10 #19 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

cs3is wrote:
CIAS TORONTO 2024.

Bravo.

Sep 19, 2024 at 10:22 PM

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p.10 #20 · p.10 #20 · Canon RF 200-800 image thread

Here is one of the partial Lunar eclipse the other day, taken from near Chicago. R5, 200-800mm lens at 800mm f/9. Taken from 1 minute of 4k/30 video, stacked and aligned and process in astrophotography software.

Partial Lunar Eclipse September 2024

Sep 21, 2024 at 03:25 PM

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