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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · HDR for wildlife

OntheRez wrote:
Peter, again you've gone beyond my limits here. 2 > X curve adjustments? Okay. Make new layer?Adjust curve. Then do another layer on top of that with more curve adjustment, etc. Hmm. Okay here's an attempt but I've had to crop down so much that's there's a lot of noise. Hmm. Don't think I've got it right.

Swallow stopping for breakfast.

Just make duplicate layers, adjust one layer for a certain part of the scene then paint that part of the scene in (or use the selection tools.) for instance if you need one part of the scene brighter brighten a layer then "paint" the part of the scene in. Basic Layers stuff

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Nov 20, 2023 at 12:43 PM

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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · HDR for wildlife

Imagemaster wrote:
It certainly is. If your camera can shoot 20fps, I have no idea if engaging AEB slows that down or by how much.

I think it's probably pretty doable even on older DSLR's, probably just play around with it and see if you can only fire off 3 or if you can get more. I mean if an elk, deer, etc or something poses even 2 sec, should be possible

Everyone focuses on a single frame for DR, but you should come out way ahead actually doing a +4 exposure, if possible vs picking it up in pp 4 stops, essentially leaving you at iso 1600, at best. 5 stop pick up leaves you at 3200 if you use 100 to begin with

Nov 20, 2023 at 12:49 PM

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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · HDR for wildlife

Nov 20, 2023 at 02:00 PM

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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · HDR for wildlife

OntheRez wrote:
Peter, again you've gone beyond my limits here. 2 > X curve adjustments? Okay. Make new layer?Adjust curve. Then do another layer on top of that with more curve adjustment, etc[/I]. Hmm. Okay here's an attempt but I've had to crop down so much that's there's a lot of noise. Hmm. Don't think I've got it right.

Swallow stopping for breakfast.

When I'm doing this, some of the adjustment layers are global, affecting the entire image area, but most are heavily masked, affecting just one small area to pull it forward or push it back tonally. It's all in an effort to subtly craft the overall tonal look of the image. And on top of that there might be twenty or thirty individual Paths that were drawn as the basis for the selections used in the layer masks, either on image layers themselves or on adjustment layers that either affect all the layers or adjustment layers that are clipped to adjust only the layer immediately beneath it. Definitely gets confusing sometimes.

Nov 21, 2023 at 12:09 PM

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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · HDR for wildlife

Peter Figen wrote:
When I'm doing this, some of the adjustment layers are global, affecting the entire image area, but most are heavily masked, affecting just one small area to pull it forward or push it back tonally. It's all in an effort to subtly craft the overall tonal look of the image. And on top of that there might be twenty or thirty individual Paths that were drawn as the basis for the selections used in the layer masks, either on image layers themselves or on adjustment layers that either affect all the layers or adjustment layers that are clipped to...Show more →

Have been playing around a bit with your technique. The masking requires extraordinary precise selection. That's a real challenge. I'll keep messing about with it and thanks again for the information. (Oh, do you have some special selection trick? For me, it's always been slow, often must be redone, and rarely is as good as I want it to be.)

Nov 22, 2023 at 12:31 PM

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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · HDR for wildlife

OntheRez wrote:
Have been playing around a bit with your technique. The masking requires extraordinary precise selection. That's a real challenge. I'll keep messing about with it and thanks again for the information. (Oh, do you have some special selection trick? For me, it's always been slow, often must be redone, and rarely is as good as I want it to be.)

Some selections need to be very precise and others are fine using is big fat soft brush on the layer mask. I use a LOT of Paths to draw very precise selections, but also use Color Range, Quick Select, Select Sky, Select Subject, Magic Wand and whatever you call it when you press the letter Q to manually paint on masks - Quick Mask I think, to name a few, depending on what seems to want to work most effectively. Hell, I'll even use the Type Tool. But really, it just depends on what your image needs and learning what the most effective tools are that lead to the the shortest path to your end goal. Since I've been doing this a long time I don't spend a lot of time thinking about what I'm doing. I just do it, but sometimes I have to try a couple of different methods or combine methods to get the best outcome.

Nov 22, 2023 at 12:47 PM

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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · HDR for wildlife

Peter Figen wrote:
Some selections need to be very precise and others are fine using is big fat soft brush on the layer mask. I use a LOT of Paths to draw very precise selections, but also use Color Range, Quick Select, Select Sky, Select Subject, Magic Wand and whatever you call it when you press the letter Q to manually paint on masks - Quick Mask I think, to name a few, depending on what seems to want to work most effectively. Hell, I'll even use the Type Tool. But really, it just depends on what your image needs and learning...Show more →

Well I've been messing around with this. Long way to go. I rarely get to see and can acknowledge a master of a craft. You most definitely are. I'll keep working on Ps - actually have been since it arrived - but not as intensely as you. Thanks for the tips.

Robert

Nov 24, 2023 at 01:34 PM

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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · HDR for wildlife

Imagemaster wrote:
This guy shows how to do it with one image. Too complicated for me.

https://youtu.be/AY8DeFSYDSs?si=x3IE6i2cvqT6c0hZ

That was an amazing video and explanation. I wonder if I can get it to work on something, I'll definitely try.

Nov 24, 2023 at 09:21 PM

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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · HDR for wildlife

Not exactly wildlife but thought I'd try the technique from the video with a landscape photo.

Here's before:

Twin Peaks normal by Avi Heroor, on Flickr

and after (the color grading is a bit heavy handed but hey, commit!)

Twin Peaks HDR by Avi Heroor, on Flickr

Dec 03, 2023 at 11:00 AM

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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · HDR for wildlife

Nice shot Tony! You still got it!

Dec 07, 2023 at 12:53 AM

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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · HDR for wildlife

Shutterbug2006 wrote:
Nice shot Tony! You still got it!

Thanks Cliff. Do you need a nice clean R5?

Aug 14, 2024 at 11:58 PM

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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · HDR for wildlife

Imagemaster wrote:
It certainly is. If your camera can shoot 20fps, I have no idea if engaging AEB slows that down or by how much.

I use AEB/electronic all the time on my r8 for landscape handheld. AEB/Electronic does not work on r5. With r8, I have not used it for wildlife because I think it only does 1 AEB sequence and then it stops. 12fps /AEB works with R5 but with one set.

Aug 16, 2024 at 03:45 PM

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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · HDR for wildlife

Try using your phone...

Aug 16, 2024 at 07:25 PM

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