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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · HDR for wildlife

Cross-posted to Canon Forum.

Has anyone used HDR for wildlife and got better results than pulling down the highlights and pulling up the shadows in PP?

For subjects like Bald Eagles, male Buffleheads, etc.

https://www.apogeephoto.com/hdr-wildlife-exploring-stillness-in-nature/

Nov 18, 2023 at 09:46 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · HDR for wildlife

I have been thinking of trying shooting a couple of frames or so varying exposure compensation and exposure blending later if that’s what you mean but when I’ve remembered to try the subject hasn’t stayed still end to get a few frames off

Nov 19, 2023 at 04:43 AM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · HDR for wildlife

Yes, have been doing HDR for wildlife for years. The past several years the process has become considerably easier with lower noise levels and broader dynamic range. A two-shot bracket is all that is necessary most times.

Nov 19, 2023 at 11:08 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · HDR for wildlife

Curious here. I've never thought of doing HDR on anything but static objects. I'm assuming that the beast is not moving, and you're going with max shutter speeds and varying f-stop? No you said eagles have tried it on hoomans a time or two with at best, odd results.

Nov 19, 2023 at 12:50 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · HDR for wildlife

If doing manually, you would vary shutter speed with constant aperture. Best way is to let the camera do a focus bracket automatically with a single shutter press. A perched bald eagle in bright light is the perfect subject.

Nov 19, 2023 at 12:59 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · HDR for wildlife

Get yourself a true HDR monitor and turn on HDR in Lightroom. You’ll be surprised at just how much information a single RAW file can capture in the highlights that normal SDR monitors just can’t display.

Nov 19, 2023 at 04:29 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · HDR for wildlife

Right, go buy a new monitor. More than one exposure-bracketed RAW image will not only give you far more highlight and shadow details in the stacked image, but will also give you less noise.

Nov 19, 2023 at 04:50 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · HDR for wildlife

How about duplicating a single image and use curves to adjust things differently as you see fit, then blend the two? I just did this a while back for an image, and it is not a lot of extra trouble.

Nov 19, 2023 at 05:21 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · HDR for wildlife

grandmas wrote:
How about duplicating a single image and use curves to adjust things differently as you see fit, then blend the two? I just did this a while back for an image, and it is not a lot of extra trouble.

Sure you can, but your single image still was not capable of recording a dynamic range anywhere close to what multiple images can record. You can't magically recover more highlights and shadows when your one shot did not capture them in the first place.
Multiple over-exposed and under-exposed images can.

The human eye is capable of viewing around 21 stops of dynamic range, which the best cameras can capture approximately 16 at the lowest ISO setting.

A five-stop difference might not sound like that much, but you have to consider how much information is lost at both ends of the spectrum. Comparing the same scene with your eyes and with the final image, you’ll be able to pick up a lot more detail in person than the camera will be able to. The best way to come close to matching what our eyes can see is to use HDR photography.

An HDR image captures more colors than a single exposure ever could. Most cameras can only take 8-bit images with just 256 colors. (That’s 2^8 for the nerds in the room). But the final HDR image will essentially hold 32-bits of color information, which amounts to more than 4 billion colors.

Nov 19, 2023 at 07:55 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · HDR for wildlife

Imagemaster wrote:
Right, go buy a new monitor. More than one exposure-bracketed RAW image will not only give you far more highlight and shadow details in the stacked image, but will also give you less noise.

Good luck doing this for moving wild life! 😂😂

Nov 19, 2023 at 09:13 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · HDR for wildlife

Imagemaster wrote:
Cross-posted to Canon Forum.

Has anyone used HDR for wildlife and got better results than pulling down the highlights and pulling up the shadows in PP?

For subjects like Bald Eagles, male Buffleheads, etc.

https://www.apogeephoto.com/hdr-wildlife-exploring-stillness-in-nature/

Literally none of those shots in the link you provided warranted bracketing.

Nov 19, 2023 at 09:15 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · HDR for wildlife

grandmas wrote:
How about duplicating a single image and use curves to adjust things differently as you see fit, then blend the two? I just did this a while back for an image, and it is not a lot of extra trouble.

No need to duplicate the image if you want to do this. All you have to do is take a single image and use two different Curves adjustment layers and blend them with the built in layer masks. This is something I do on literally every single image I make except it's more like thirty or forty adjustment layers.

Nov 19, 2023 at 09:35 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · HDR for wildlife

Chimping wrote:
Good luck doing this for moving wild life! 😂😂

Well duh, you do know that wildlife does not move all the time, don't you

Chimping wrote:
Literally none of those shots in the link you provided warranted bracketing.

Well they were not your shots and you have no idea what they looked like before bracketing, do you

Maybe try expanding your narrow knowledge about how anyone that wants to can use HDR:

https://www.digitalbirdphotography.com/6.9.html

https://iceland-photo-tours.com/articles/photography-techniques/ultimate-guide-to-hdr-photography

https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/27025/how-to-take-hdr-photos-of-moving-objects

https://www.pinterest.nz/hdrphotos/animals-hdr/

https://www.barkography.com/blog/hdr-photography-dog-photography-project-52-week-12

Nov 19, 2023 at 10:15 PM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · HDR for wildlife

TDR for wildlife,

otherwise known as Topaz Dynamic Range for wildlife.

Nov 19, 2023 at 10:39 PM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · HDR for wildlife

Imagemaster wrote:
Well duh, you do know that wildlife does not move all the time, don't you

Well they were not your shots and you have no idea what they looked like before bracketing, do you

!!!

Nov 20, 2023 at 12:08 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · HDR for wildlife

Chimping wrote:

!!!

Typical troll.

Nov 20, 2023 at 12:55 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · HDR for wildlife

Pretty easy to fire off several in <1 second using AEB I'd think. I've only done different exposures of a single raw file and blended, though

Nov 20, 2023 at 01:46 AM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · HDR for wildlife

AmbientMike wrote:
Pretty easy to fire off several in <1 second using AEB I'd think. I've only done different exposures of a single raw file and blended, though

It certainly is. If your camera can shoot 20fps, I have no idea if engaging AEB slows that down or by how much.

Nov 20, 2023 at 02:07 AM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · HDR for wildlife

Imagemaster wrote:
TDR for wildlife,

otherwise known as Topaz Dynamic Range for wildlife.

We've gone beyond snap shot news reporting here. This is an utterly remarkable image. The geese are just floating in a soft sky. Thanks for posting this. Gives me all kinds of ideas.

Nov 20, 2023 at 11:23 AM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · HDR for wildlife

Peter Figen wrote:
No need to duplicate the image if you want to do this. All you have to do is take a single image and use two different Curves adjustment layers and blend them with the built in layer masks. This is something I do on literally every single image I make except it's more like thirty or forty adjustment layers.

Peter, again you've gone beyond my limits here. 2 > X curve adjustments? Okay. Make new layer?Adjust curve. Then do another layer on top of that with more curve adjustment, etc[/I]. Hmm. Okay here's an attempt but I've had to crop down so much that's there's a lot of noise. Hmm. Don't think I've got it right.

Swallow stopping for breakfast.

Nov 20, 2023 at 11:55 AM

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