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p.9 #1 · p.9 #1 · Dear SANTA please make the R1 with


alundeb wrote:
Honestly, I think that they will ensure all those criteria are met at a point they believe is the right balance. Adding "then some" will always compromise something. Releasing too early is probably what they are most afraid of.

The rumored specs make sense in my opinion. Honestly, 30 MP is not low resolution and 50 MP is not high resolution. They are both balanced resolutions today. You can get high resolution as in 100 MP with a GFX100 for the same kind of money as the R3.


I agree they will ensure the R1 meets the right balance. The "then some" WILL happen because Canon wants the world to know who the top dog really is once and for all in the mirrorless game. They've had Sony gnawing away at their ankles long enough. I suspect there is a very good reason they have been working on the R1 for 6 years. We've known about working prototypes out in the field for a very very long time now.
I have full faith they'll get it right. But then again, I've been called a fanboy a few times so...



Feb 16, 2024 at 10:30 AM
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p.9 #2 · p.9 #2 · Dear SANTA please make the R1 with


all I know is if your photos stink now they will still stink with a new R1. I know I have owned everything photos still stink. Lighting , Lens, body. Happy Friday


Feb 16, 2024 at 11:49 AM
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p.9 #3 · p.9 #3 · Dear SANTA please make the R1 with


lighthound wrote:
With that logic, I suppose one could speculate that the Sony A1II will



who says that Sony Imaging are saints ?


lighthound wrote:
We're talking about the RF system here not the EF system. Canons AF system in the RF line can hardly be criticized in comparison to the competition.


we are talking about the company here, that screwed more than once ( and so did others ) and is very capable to screw again ( and so do others ) if not in one aspect of AF then somewhere else ...




Feb 16, 2024 at 07:10 PM
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p.9 #4 · p.9 #4 · Dear SANTA please make the R1 with


exdeejjjaaaa wrote:
what was the AF story with 1DIII ? so who says that it can't be repeated ? so Canon can always make an error and then some ...


That was interesting problem with the rubber composition of the pads that the mirror landed on. (I sent my 1D III in for the recall, even though I hadn't seen the problem)

A mirrorless camera is naturally immune to problems with the mirror.

I have high confidence that Canon won't repeat the 1D III problem




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p.9 #5 · p.9 #5 · Dear SANTA please make the R1 with



exdeejjjaaaa wrote:
who says that Sony Imaging are saints ?


we are talking about the company here, that screwed more than once ( and so did others ) and is very capable to screw again ( and so do others ) if not in one aspect of AF then somewhere else ...



Sure, anything is possible. But the scenario you are speculating about (that the R1 will launch with poor autofocus or some other fatal flaw) is highly unlikely, I think. There may be some bugs and teething issues, as there usually are with new cameras, but that is materially different than what I think you are suggesting.

The 1D Mark III is such ancient history that hearing someone bring it up in a discussion about the R1 is a real head scratcher.



Feb 17, 2024 at 01:42 PM
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p.9 #6 · p.9 #6 · Dear SANTA please make the R1 with


Some of the patents applied by Canon give information about potential problems with new technologies.

A recent and relevant example is for quad pixel autofocus:
https://www.canonwatch.com/canon-patent-quad-pixel-phase-detection-auto-focus/

Especially the part about image sensors with aspect ratios other than 1:1, and how sensor plane phase detect AF would tend to bias in either the horizontal or vertical direction. If Canon did not test well enough, and did not pay attention to this, it could have been discovered as a problem with the cameras.

It is not likely that Canon will slip such things through, but as always is the case with new technologies, it is not possible to anticipate everything. Normally the scale of things will be in the "improvemets" range though.

The reason I brougth this up, was not to suggest that we will see disasters, but to remind ourselves why a 1 series Camera is expected to a certain degree to be conservatively specced in order to preserve the reliability.



Feb 17, 2024 at 02:06 PM
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p.9 #7 · p.9 #7 · Dear SANTA please make the R1 with




alundeb wrote:
Some of the patents applied by Canon give information about potential problems with new technologies.

A recent and relevant example is for quad pixel autofocus:
https://www.canonwatch.com/canon-patent-quad-pixel-phase-detection-auto-focus/

Especially the part about image sensors with aspect ratios other than 1:1, and how sensor plane phase detect AF would tend to bias in either the horizontal or vertical direction. If Canon did not test well enough, and did not pay attention to this, it could have been discovered as a problem with the cameras.

It is not likely that Canon will slip such things through, but as always is the case with new technologies, it is not
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Yes, good points. I do know that Canon field tests its new cameras with a set of professionals under NDA to take feedback and identify issues. I'm not sure if this process is more robust now than it was during the early 1D model years. Hopefully, most of the bugs will have been caught and ironed out before the retail release. And of course, the Olympic Games is always a crucible for proving new gear for Canon, Nikon, and now Sony. By the time we mortals will get our mits on this camera, Canon will have had plenty of real world shooting behind it.



Feb 17, 2024 at 05:59 PM
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