Help with Settings - Canon R3 for night football game

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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Help with Settings - Canon R3 for night football game

I shot a West Virginia football game last month at night. One thing I noticed is that shooting in opposite directions, around the same time of day (7 minutes apart), and around the same field area resulted in pretty drastic changes in image quality.

One image is shooting at an angle that has their sign lighting in the background. The other doesn't.

When using the R3 and shooting at the sign lighting angle, I'd get a "flicker" warning. I've looked this up but am not sure if this would have solved the problem.

Here are two images that were taken from different angles. Both were raw images converted to jpeg. I've included the unedited version first and then the edited version. The second image has a green cast that only somewhat comes out with changes in white balance.

Does anyone have suggestions as to what I could try? If it is something with flicker, if you could be as specific as possible for a fast paced game, that would be great. Thank you.

Nov 03, 2023 at 02:17 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Help with Settings - Canon R3 for night football game

Are you in an autoexposure mode or manual settings on the camera? Can you provide more details on the exposure data for each frame?

Nov 03, 2023 at 02:39 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Help with Settings - Canon R3 for night football game

The key to managing noise is the correct exposure. There is great NR AI software out there but a good start helps. Needs a little sharpening as well.

You are under exposing the subjects. The first file is about 1 stop. The second 2 1/3 stops. The first file the arrow shows where it just starts to show clipping when I increased the exposure. Same for the second. However you were metering the camera tried to keep that add light banner in back from being overexposed and your subjects are more important.

The third file shows that I left clipping indicator on and the sign being blown out but a good subject exposure.

Nov 03, 2023 at 02:58 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Help with Settings - Canon R3 for night football game

Agree with the above that something was messing with your metering. I have a couple of thoughts I'd try. I shoot sports as well, but usually not on lighted fields.

1. Set your meter mode to the smallest possible area.
2. Shoot M mode, and set your Tv to capture action around 1/1600-1/2000, and your aperture wide open. Then set ISO to get the right exposure as described above, using an image that doesn't have the sign in the background.
3. I normally shoot Manual, Auto ISO. That could work for you as well, if you get the meter weighting small enough to ignore the sign in the background. OR - it is also possible to use manual, auto ISO with exposure compensation. You could set it to +1EV of EC, to account for the fact that the sign is going to mess with the foreground exposure. I will say its kind of hard to tell the EC is set and working, at least on my R6.

Flicker warning is because it detects LEDs, which can have a refresh rate that shows up in images. R3 has a flicker mode where it can detect the period of the LED, and set a Tv to account for it. LIke 1/123.3 or other unusual numbers like that. You can read the manual to see if that is something you want to try and turn on. It may limit the max shutter speed you can attain, I'm not sure.

With the right exposure, and good denoise software, I have gotten pretty clean and detailed images at up to ISO52600. So you should be able to do the same with your R3.

-Brian

Nov 03, 2023 at 03:33 PM


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