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snegron7 wrote:
If money were not an an issue, I still would not buy this lens. Frankly, I'm disappointed at how large and heavy lenses have become. When all the big camera manufacturers began shoving their "latest, greatest" mirrorless cameras down our throats, I was hoping to see smaller, better performing lenses. Obviously that has not been the case except for the few Canon RF "plastic fantastic" offerings (RF 16mm, RF 28mm, etc.).

I'm probably the only person in the world that appreciates good, small lenses (like the old Nikkor AiS primes of yesteryear), so I'm not expecting Canon or Sony to
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What you desire exists: Sigma DG DN small lenses, metal built and small.
Example:
https://www.sigma-global.com/en/lenses/c020_35_2/

Unfortunately not available for Canon right now but that might change. But if that is all you desire, I would change systems to Sony or Lumix (and I am a lifelong Canon shooter).



Nov 03, 2023 at 03:47 AM
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matejphoto wrote:
What you desire exists: Sigma DG DN small lenses, metal built and small.
Example:
https://www.sigma-global.com/en/lenses/c020_35_2/

Unfortunately not available for Canon right now but that might change. But if that is all you desire, I would change systems to Sony or Lumix (and I am a lifelong Canon shooter).



Thanks for the info! I currently own a Canon R6 and a Sony A7c. Only reason I'm not a fan of Sigma is that their smaller primes for full frame are f.4. If you want something with a wider aperture, their "Art" series are comically huge. That being said, I have been looking at the Sigma 90mm f2.8 as a short telephoto option for my travel kit (A7c, humongous Viltrox AF 16mm f1.8 and Tamron 20-40mm f2.8).



Nov 03, 2023 at 04:06 AM
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I ordered the lens myself. I think it will pair nicely with the RF 100-300mm. Traveling with only 2 lenses and getting 24mm to 600mm is very appealing. Add the RF 15-35mm f2.8 to the travel kit and my needs / wants are covered very well. My RF 70-200mm has a lot of overlap with the 100-300mm and I prefer internal zoom vs external. Maybe another Kenzie lens

Most likely will sell the RF 70-200mm and the 100mm macro for this one.



Nov 03, 2023 at 04:45 AM
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I can predict a ton of 24-70f/2.8 lenses will show up in the marketplace.

Now Canon needs to bring us a 14-24 or <gasp> a 10-24, rectilinear internal-zoom lens to complement the new holy trinity and give it the Z treatment for video. Nothing wrong with the current 15-35f/2.8 which I have, and is sublime..... If only I could afford the 100-300f/2.8......

However, I have indeed put the 24-105f/2.8 on pre-order. I have been doing mostly video lately and my current f/4L sits on my R5C 100% of the time. This will be a nice addition.



Nov 03, 2023 at 08:02 AM
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ilkka_nissila wrote:
Well, if they're aiming this at the video market, the 16:9 aspect ratio (or whatever is used) crops out the corners, so maybe it'll be acceptable? Then there is the C70 which has a super 35 sensor.



Their marketing is that it is a perfect photo + video lens. Plus open gate recording will eventually be a thing.

Also, take a look at the video to see how the R5C can’t even keep up with applying the distortion correction during fast zooms. Kinda surprising imo.



Nov 03, 2023 at 08:50 AM
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RobAmy wrote:
Traveling with only 2 lenses and getting 24mm to 600mm is very appealing.


Not sure if I would personally call this much of a travel lens, but opinions differ! It can be an advantage to have just two lenses for 24-600!



Nov 03, 2023 at 08:54 AM
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Alan Parker wrote:
Not sure if I would personally call this much of a travel lens, but opinions differ! It can be an advantage to have just two lenses for 24-600!


Ha Ha, true but compared to taking my 70-200mm, 400mm and 800mm, it will be light and tiny for travel



Nov 03, 2023 at 09:14 AM
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snegron7 wrote:
If money were not an an issue, I still would not buy this lens. Frankly, I'm disappointed at how large and heavy lenses have become. When all the big camera manufacturers began shoving their "latest, greatest" mirrorless cameras down our throats, I was hoping to see smaller, better performing lenses. Obviously that has not been the case except for the few Canon RF "plastic fantastic" offerings (RF 16mm, RF 28mm, etc.).

I'm probably the only person in the world that appreciates good, small lenses (like the old Nikkor AiS primes of yesteryear), so I'm not expecting Canon or Sony to
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Ironic that you mention the 28 mm. On the alternative forum and for the latter years on the Sony forum, the search for a small and good 28 mm has been like Mission Impossible or The Quest For The Holy Grail. Now that Canon comes with the slam dunk 28 2.8, suddenly it doesn't count because it is plastic. Nothing wrong in wanting metal manual lenses, but the case of the 28 mm is so ironic



Nov 03, 2023 at 09:19 AM
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I like the way sony did the power zoom using linear motors for the zoom and the lens was zoom by wire. Seems cleaner than a brick that straps to the side to turn a control.

the 24-105 looks like an interesting lens, I haven't checked out the review videos yet.



Nov 03, 2023 at 10:18 AM
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alundeb wrote:
Ironic that you mention the 28 mm. On the alternative forum and for the latter years on the Sony forum, the search for a small and good 28 mm has been like Mission Impossible or The Quest For The Holy Grail. Now that Canon comes with the slam dunk 28 2.8, suddenly it doesn't count because it is plastic. Nothing wrong in wanting metal manual lenses, but the case of the 28 mm is so ironic



I have the new RF 28mm. I was probably one of the first folks here to get one. 😀

I also have the RF 16mm f2.8, RF 35mm f1.8 and RF 50mm f1.8.

Sony never made a 16mm prime, so I ended up buying the Viltrox AF 16mm f1.8. It's all metal and glass, but is large and heavy.



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Wow. It’s like carrying the EF 70-200 2.8 II as my walk around lens.
I remember leaving it behind because it was not feasible for city or European travel.

Great concept but practically impractical as a walk around lens for travel. Best for specific location shoots, but not reasonable for travel.

I’d rather carry a light lens that doesn’t require a large bag to transport.
I guess for my needs it will not work.

But great job Canon for exploring new ideas.



Nov 03, 2023 at 05:43 PM
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Coincidentally
I just today got spam email from a local photo store for pre orders of the RF 200-800 and the new faster RF 24-105 2.8
Prices weren’t shown so clicked and my jaw hit the deck…£3439.00 for the 24-105!!!
I’m just speechless!!

The pricing is insane- I can hardly contain my glee as I wait patiently for upcoming phones with newer more sophisticated AI to crush conventional photography to a point where manufacturers simply cannot sustain production regardless of their size or brand name

Remember the old adage :-
The Bigger They Are The Harder They Fall

What’s cracked me up is the new 200-800 in its pretentious white L guise - only it’s no L just a consumer lens at £2299!! LMAO 😂

I can see the boomers falling over themselves already.



Nov 04, 2023 at 03:18 AM
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Lifeinpictures wrote:
Wow. It’s like carrying the EF 70-200 2.8 II as my walk around lens.
I remember leaving it behind because it was not feasible for city or European travel.

Great concept but practically impractical as a walk around lens for travel. Best for specific location shoots, but not reasonable for travel.

I’d rather carry a light lens that doesn’t require a large bag to transport.
I guess for my needs it will not work.

But great job Canon for exploring new ideas.


Totally agree, for most people this is not a walk around lens.
I think it will make sense (for people where $$$ in not an issue) to own both f/4 and f/2.8 versions of 24-105.

I went with the 24-70 f/2.8 but I think I will sell it and get both of the 24-105s. f/4 for travel and f/2.8 for when photography is the main objective.



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Pixelpuffin wrote:
I can see the boomers falling over themselves already.


What does that mean, exactly?



Nov 04, 2023 at 02:11 PM
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Has anyone seen any objective assessments of IQ in terms of sharpness, contrast, distortion, and bokeh? How does it compare to the f/4 24-105 which I liked in spite of its issues for travel. How about some comparisons to Tammy’s 35-150?


Nov 05, 2023 at 11:43 AM
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Jeff wrote:
What does that mean, exactly?


It appears to be a thinly veiled insult aimed at baby boomers.



Nov 05, 2023 at 06:16 PM
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Pixelpuffin wrote:
Coincidentally
I just today got spam email from a local photo store for pre orders of the RF 200-800 and the new faster RF 24-105 2.8
Prices weren’t shown so clicked and my jaw hit the deck…£3439.00 for the 24-105!!!
I’m just speechless!!

The pricing is insane- I can hardly contain my glee as I wait patiently for upcoming phones with newer more sophisticated AI to crush conventional photography to a point where manufacturers simply cannot sustain production regardless of their size or brand name

Remember the old adage :-
The Bigger They Are The Harder They Fall

What’s cracked me up is the
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Speechless? Why? These are professional tools addressing a shrinking but still very real market, so R&D and manufacturing costs are spread over a smaller number of units, and units are getting pricy for the advanced products. But I (and I think plenty of people on this thread and forum) are pretty confident that Canon will make a decent return on investment with this very special lens and hopefully more to follow in a new niche of still / video competent lenses optimized for the intended purchaser. Nobody is saying that semi-pros and enthusiasts are compelled to buy this new lens, I for one (boomer, yes) am very satisfied with my RF 24-105 f:4 IS L and have no intention of pursuing the new product.

Glee? Not sure what to make of this unless you have a strategy to short Canon shares based on your very personal assumption that cell phones will supplant professional photography gear any time soon. It has been an opportunity for camera manufacturers like Canon, Nikon, Hasselblad and Leica (to name but a few) to find passionate and/or wealthy amateurs to whom to sell expensive professional equipment, a luxury that brands like Sinar or Elinchrome (photo) or Arriflex (film) probably never had, resulting in really high prices for very low production volume pro equipment. Canon and others manufacture and sell medical optical systems at prices that are astronomical, and profitable, without any market for non-professionals, boomer or other.

If anything, with the contraction of the compact camera market to pretty much zilch, it is remarkable that there is still a digital camera market with not only Canon, Nikon, Sony and Leica but also Pentax, Olympus, Ricoh, and other vendors, following your logic there should only be 2 or 3 left by now, big or not.

I use my cell phone when snapping shots of the grandkids, less intimidating, quite spontaneous, easy to share with 100 apps on the phone, but the odd portraits I do with the 135mm f:2 on the R6mk2 are in a totally different category. Peruse FM forums and you will see the very distinct quality of modern cameras. Or you can wait for Samsung AI to implement a 500mm 45 megapixel lens in their phones.

I am not falling over myself, despite my age. I respect any and every person's choices to embrace new products or not, to approach photography with whatever equipment they see fit, a $400 smartphone or $30,000 of the best gear money can buy (my first camera was a Kodak Brownie), no need to get personal or to make unsubstantiated claims of prescience as to what the future of photography will be.




Nov 05, 2023 at 09:25 PM
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Gochugogi wrote:
It appears to be a thinly veiled insult aimed at baby boomers.


The term boomers tends to be used not only for the generation previously defined as the baby boomers, but more generally on the grown up part of the population. Or if you will, the majority of experienced contributors here at FM.



Nov 06, 2023 at 04:41 AM
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You are very easily rendered speechless, gleed, and arse losing amused.

So how much would you expect a 24-105 2.8 would cost?



Pixelpuffin wrote:
Coincidentally
I just today got spam email from a local photo store for pre orders of the RF 200-800 and the new faster RF 24-105 2.8
Prices weren’t shown so clicked and my jaw hit the deck…£3439.00 for the 24-105!!!
I’m just speechless!!

The pricing is insane- I can hardly contain my glee as I wait patiently for upcoming phones with newer more sophisticated AI to crush conventional photography to a point where manufacturers simply cannot sustain production regardless of their size or brand name

Remember the old adage :-
The Bigger They Are The Harder They Fall

What’s cracked me up is the
...Show more




Nov 06, 2023 at 06:55 AM
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Choderboy wrote:
You are very easily rendered speechless, gleed, and arse losing amused.

So how much would you expect a 24-105 2.8 would cost?



No matter how you try to suger coat it.
The price is ridiculous as are most of canons latest offerings.




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