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Canon announces RF 200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM super-telephoto zoom lens

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It’s official:

https://m.dpreview.com/news/1657755426/canon-announces-200-800mm-super-telephoto-zoom-lens

Discuss!

Looks like a fantastic lens for entry level birders, wildlife and air show photographers!

Available for pre-order at B&H Photo.

Nov 01, 2023 at 10:37 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Canon announces RF 200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM super-telephoto zoom lens

Why not just continue the existing discussion at the other 200-800 thread?

Nov 01, 2023 at 10:39 PM

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Too much speculation on that thread when you get to
The actual details On page 7 of that thread. For the sake of humanity, that thread should be deleted.

rscheffler wrote:
Why not just continue the existing discussion at the other 200-800 thread?

Nov 01, 2023 at 10:51 PM

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Nov 01, 2023 at 11:31 PM

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Nov 02, 2023 at 12:35 AM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Canon announces RF 200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM super-telephoto zoom lens

OK, I’ll briefly repeat what I said in the other thread. Here in Australia Canon is asking 40% more for this lens than Sony is for their popular 200–600 G, and it’s a heavy extending zoom. I wouldn’t even consider this lens.

Nov 02, 2023 at 01:29 AM

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big country wrote:
Too much speculation on that thread when you get to
The actual details On page 7 of that thread. For the sake of humanity, that thread should be deleted.

I agree, much cleaner to start a new thread once a lens is announced.

Nov 02, 2023 at 01:55 AM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Canon announces RF 200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM super-telephoto zoom lens

Asking 40% more than the Sony 200-600 seems great value for the money for the Canon lens to me.
If you want 800 mm on the Sony, a 1.4 teleconverter already costs you 30% of what the 200-600 does. The Canon lens is 100g lighter than the bare Sony lens, and not any longer.
Of course if you can't use extending zooms, no discount is ever going to make up for that.

Nov 02, 2023 at 01:59 AM

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One disappointment to me is that the tripod collar / foot is non-removable

Nov 02, 2023 at 03:27 AM

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It has a IS on and off switch but no mode switch. No limiter switch either which I find makes a big difference on the 100-500 when shooting at distance.

The two lens function buttons will be pretty handy for additional mapping options. Not enough buttons no the camera.

Nov 02, 2023 at 04:11 AM

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Already at f/8 by 500mm is even worse than I thought. But I shouldn't really be surprised when it comes to Canon and RF lenses.

That huge zoom extension is going to make this one awkward lens to handhold.

The only thing I think this lens has over the Nikon/Sony is if one wants to shoot at 800 f/9 most of the time then it should be better than having to use a TC on those lenses to get to 840 f/9.

Is there no MF ring on this lens? Do you have to give up the control ring to MF if you want MF? Taking a page out of Nikon's bad decision book if so. MILC AF systems demand good MF especially at such long focal lengths.

Nov 02, 2023 at 06:14 AM

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This lens appears to be a dream for a lot of the FM crowd. Perched birds in good lighting with small apertures.

Nov 02, 2023 at 07:00 AM

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arbitrage wrote:
Is there no MF ring on this lens? Do you have to give up the control ring to MF if you want MF? Taking a page out of Nikon's bad decision book if so. MILC AF systems demand good MF especially at such long focal lengths.

What are you using the control ring for?

I was really excited about the control ring when RF was first announced but since I have R5 with 3 dials (one for aperture, one for exp comp, one for ISO) I have not been using the control ring.
I would love to learn to use it for something useful.

Nov 02, 2023 at 07:17 AM

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Nov 02, 2023 at 08:19 AM

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arbitrage wrote:
Already at f/8 by 500mm is even worse than I thought. But I shouldn't really be surprised when it comes to Canon and RF lenses.

That huge zoom extension is going to make this one awkward lens to handhold.

The only thing I think this lens has over the Nikon/Sony is if one wants to shoot at 800 f/9 most of the time then it should be better than having to use a TC on those lenses to get to 840 f/9.

Is there no MF ring on this lens? Do you have to give up the control ring to MF if you...Show more →

There is an MF ring. No aperture ring.

Nov 02, 2023 at 08:31 AM

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alundeb wrote:
One disappointment to me is that the tripod collar / foot is non-removable

if true this is a headscratcher to me.. for such a heavy lens, it would be nice to swap it for an arca swiss mountable one... adding additional mounting brackets is clunky and just makes it heavier

Nov 02, 2023 at 08:46 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Canon announces RF 200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM super-telephoto zoom lens

Just when I thought a lens couldn't be slower in terms of aperture, this comes out. At first, my thoughts are/were "no way".

BUT, but it's also very intriguing. The range alone is very useful for birding and wildlife. It's so hard to get close enough to the subject at times - critters and fowl don't necessarily want to be close to their human counterparts (and I don't always either).

I think it deserves some careful consideration. You can get a faster 800 mm lens, but it's also, by necessity, going to be a larger, heavier lens. No magic there. I suppose you could grab that old Sigma Contemporary with adapter, and slap a 1.4X on it and get a similar focal length and aperture range. Complete with less reliable focus.

I'm going to really look close at this one. I have the 100-500 and it is nice. The plus of the 200-800 is, of course, 800. The downside is f/9 at the long end. In bright conditions, not a problem. In darker forests, and especially with a crop camera, potentially an issue. You'll be pushing the ISO to get an acceptable shutter speed in some situations.

Decisions, decisions...

Nov 02, 2023 at 08:57 AM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Canon announces RF 200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM super-telephoto zoom lens

This was my first ever pre-order lens. Longer than my 100-400 EF vII with extender and similar in aperture. MtF looks nice too.

Great price. We will see how it performs! I will use it for youth soccer as well. And will be great for wildlife on hiking trips.

Brian.

Nov 02, 2023 at 09:11 AM

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Tom_W wrote:
Just when I thought a lens couldn't be slower in terms of aperture, this comes out. At first, my thoughts are/were "no way".

BUT, but it's also very intriguing. The range alone is very useful for birding and wildlife. It's so hard to get close enough to the subject at times - critters and fowl don't necessarily want to be close to their human counterparts (and I don't always either).

I think it deserves some careful consideration. You can get a faster 800 mm lens, but it's also, by necessity, going to be a larger, heavier lens. No magic there. I...Show more →

We'd all love a 600/4 or 800 5.6 wouldn't we!

Brian

Nov 02, 2023 at 09:15 AM

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jedibrain wrote:
We'd all love a 600/4 or 800 5.6 wouldn't we!

Brian

Indeed!

I do have an EF 500 f/4L II - Excellent lens. Rarely use it. Why? It's just not a good walkabout lens, and I tend to do more walkabout than anything. And that's where something like this comes in.

Always helps to look at the focal length vs aperture math.
An f/4 800 mm lens would need 200 mm in diameter for the front element.
F/5.6, 143 mm objective lens;
f/8 would be 100 mm.
Now, if you want to use filters, then a 95 mm filter thread diameter keeps it within the price range of mere mortals. And that is why the f/9. An 800 mm lens at f/9 requires an 89 mm front objective lens.

Now, what Canon could do for us R7 shooters, would be to develop and market a 0.707X tele compressor that would give us effectively around 140-560 with an f/stop range of 4.5-6.3. A full stop more light, at the expense of focal length. Or I could just start using the R5 for birding.

Nov 02, 2023 at 09:25 AM

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