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which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


At present, Voigtlander doesn't offer any Z-mount lens with focal length in between 15 mm and 35 mm.
This is rather annoying.
A compact 21 mm lens would be nice to travel light, although I admit that the 14-30/4 S is relatively compact and lightweight if its focal length range is taken into account.
But if you wanted to buy a MF & compact 20-21 mm lens for your Z camera, which one would you choose?
Would the VM 21/3.5 Color Skopar Type II be preferable to the E-mount version? I think that the Voigtlander VM/Z "close focus" adapter is more solid than the ETZ 21, or similar cheaper adapters.
If I'm not wrong, the VM 21/3.5 doesn't show field curvature effects on thicker sensor stacks.
Any thought?
Thanx.



Oct 27, 2023 at 08:16 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


One option is the Color Skopar 20mm F3.5 SLII in F-mount. You popably already have a FTZii. I think it,s nice and it can focus realy close, 0.2 meters. Its also so compact that it doesnt become huge with the adapter.


Oct 27, 2023 at 08:25 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


I'm not sure the 20/3.5 is as good as the 21/3.5.


Oct 27, 2023 at 09:01 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


The Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color-Skopar M-mount works excellently with the Sony sensor, so it's probable that it will perform similarly or even slightly better on the Nikon sensor.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1647789/1#15241068



Oct 27, 2023 at 09:09 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


Thank you Fred for confirming that the VM version can work on the Nikon sensor without undesired side effects (i.e., FC).
I suppose the Color Skopar Vintage Type II share the same optics as Type I; is it correct?



Oct 27, 2023 at 09:15 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


Ripolini wrote:
Thank you Fred for confirming that the VM version can work on the Nikon sensor without undesired side effects (i.e., FC).
I suppose the Color Skopar Vintage Type II share the same optics as Type I; is it correct?


You're welcome, and yes, Type I and II share the same optical design. This is one of the advantages of this lens compared to the Leica 21/3.4 SEM, which is only optimized for the M body.



Oct 27, 2023 at 10:00 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


I've got the E-mount version of the Voigt 21/3.5 adapted on my Z7 and it works wonderfully.


Oct 27, 2023 at 10:18 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


I used the VM 21mm 3.5 on my Z5. Didn't have any issues and its wonderfully small and compact


Oct 27, 2023 at 10:39 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


kwalsh wrote:
I've got the E-mount version of the Voigt 21/3.5 adapted on my Z7 and it works wonderfully.


The VM version with the Voigtlander VM/Z close focus adapter can focus down to 13.5 cm. No EXIF though.



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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


Make sure you add profile correction in Lightroom. Otherwise, it vignettes quite a bit


Oct 27, 2023 at 11:39 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


Ripolini wrote:
The VM version with the Voigtlander VM/Z close focus adapter can focus down to 13.5 cm. No EXIF though.


Im just using a dumb adapter on mine, so no EXIF for me either!

If I had any M-mount lenses to adapt the close focus adapter would be a no brainer.

What has been nice about the Voigt Z-mount versions is improved close focus on some models - presumably longer helicoid given the additional space the mount provides. The Z 15/4.5 focuses to 4.9 for example, compared to 20 for the E and M mount.

Wish they had brought the 21/3.5 to Z mount, but instead they appear to have just discontinued it entirely instead.



Oct 27, 2023 at 12:01 PM
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Ripolini wrote:
Thank you Fred for confirming that the VM version can work on the Nikon sensor without undesired side effects (i.e., FC).
I suppose the Color Skopar Vintage Type II share the same optics as Type I; is it correct?

If you are talking about the old 21mm f/4 Voigtlander 'type 1' in L39, and 'type II' Iin LM that's a different matter to the 21/3.5 LM, I've had a L39 version for about 20 years, great on film, but pretty awful on Sony full frame or even the Fujis I have now.

Gerry



Oct 27, 2023 at 03:52 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


Ripolini wrote:
I'm not sure the 20/3.5 is as good as the 21/3.5.


I think maybe you're right. I've used it for film and tried it on the Zf today. Good att close distances but need smaller apertures on longer.




Oct 28, 2023 at 03:19 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


But the Color-skopar 20mm F3.5 SLII aint bad, here are three JPEGs from today and yesterday. F5.6 & F8. Maybe I was to quick to judge...

https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjB1ibf



Oct 29, 2023 at 11:22 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


I forgot to delete these from the Nikon owners forum. Slack of me. Now fixed.

Edited on Nov 24, 2023 at 07:21 PM · View previous versions



Oct 29, 2023 at 02:59 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


I have had the 40mm SLII for a long time, used on a Sony A7 originally as well as Nikon DSLR, and have been delighted to find it gives semi auto diaphragm operation when used with the Xt3 via a Fringer adapter, the chip provides the info it needs and the Fringer has an aperture motor. My wider Voigtlanders are all M mount, but have been thinking of getting the 20mm SLII for a while, compact design means it seems to need stopping down for edge sharpness, but that's no problem for me for what I would use it for.

Gerry



Oct 30, 2023 at 03:53 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


I had both, E and VM, used on Sony a7c. When VM is such a small and cute on a7c, I think personally I would get E mount on Zf - only for those electronic connectors and focus confirmation plus exif.
Its gonna look sexy on it



Nov 24, 2023 at 01:04 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · which 21/3.5 Color Skopar on Z camera?


I dont want to hijack this thread again, but has anyone compared the 20/3.5 SLII with the 21/3.5 E ? The super small Color-Skopar 20/3.5 sertanly have some merits...


Nov 24, 2023 at 04:10 PM







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