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Official: Leica M11-P announced

  
 
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p.6 #1 · p.6 #1 · Official: Leica M11-P announced


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Nov 06, 2023 at 01:27 PM
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p.6 #2 · p.6 #2 · Official: Leica M11-P announced


1bwana1 wrote:
Just to be sure I just did about a 10 minute test with my M11 2.01 version firmware using the Leica Fotos App.

I tried about every function and setting I could. Including shooting remote from the App, and shooting Tethered from the camera to the App. I shot while downloading jpg previews all the way through to full DNG downloads.

Everything went smooth and fast. Not one issue with either the camera or the app.

So, it looks to me that if there is a problem with the App being compatible it is not affecting the standard M11. Must be limited
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I too shoot with the A1, along with other Sony bodies and lenses, and considering the M11 as an addition, not a replacement. Curious what your experience has been with the obvious difference between the two?



Nov 06, 2023 at 01:29 PM
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Michael_L wrote:
I too shoot with the A1, along with other Sony bodies and lenses, and considering the M11 as an addition, not a replacement. Curious what your experience has been with the obvious difference between the two?


I'm not Steve but I have the A1 and A7R5 alongside my M11. With the best glass the A7R5/M11 have *slightly* better files than the A1. And I mean slightly. It's not an IQ thing. It's a user experience thing.

In every way the M11 and A1 are opposites. The best M lenses are tiny compared to anything from the big three and it matters, a lot. Handling and usability are radically different. The A1 is vastly quicker because the camera does so much, so well, so quickly. The M11 feels agile because it's a small kit.

It's harder to get a great shot out of the M11, by some margin. But it's way more satisfying when you do. Your keeper rate will be lower but so will your shot count. The A1 invites you to use the silent shutter and high speed shooting. The M11 tempts you with the rangefinder and your reaction times for a single shot. That decisive moment *rubbish* becomes a new challenge and a new way to shoot. My A1 is basically set to high speed no shutter shooting as the default. I don't think I have ever used the continuous shooting mode on my M11.

The A1 is functional. One of Sony's best cameras in hand but still there to do the job. The M11 is a work of industrial art. Beautifully made. Weighty in a good way. Super tactile. It's more mechanical in feel even though things like the shutter speed dial are basically switches. In a away like a super expensive fidgit spinner. You just want to pick it up. I can't say that about many other cameras.

The M11 rewards practice. You're doing all the work. Want better images? Practice. It can become a responsive camera but only if you know it and use it often.

An M won't make better photos than an A1. But they will be different. Different gear does that. If that's what you're after.

Gordon



Nov 06, 2023 at 02:12 PM
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p.6 #4 · p.6 #4 · Official: Leica M11-P announced


Both Leica M11-P in Black and Silver are in stock at B&H Photo right now:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=Leica%20M11-P







Dec 01, 2023 at 03:09 PM
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I just have one question about the M11-P - why would you want the metadata encrypted? I don't see how "Leica Content Credentials Technology" is going to make attribution any easier - if nobody can see the photographer's name, camera serial number, and lens used - which is already recorded into the IPTC, and EXIF metadata every time you push the shutter. Is this to prevent websites from stripping metadata - like they do already? Anyone know?

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I watched again the email video Leica sent me, and the one Fred linked on October 27th. When the metadata standards were developed some fields in the IPTC and EXIF were read only. It took almost no time to find work-arounds for that protection. Additionally, quantum cpu's will make encryption completely useless - you can not protect a file if the key can be discovered in a fraction of a second.



Dec 08, 2023 at 01:42 PM
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