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madNbad wrote:
I just ordered a few bags of Kodak Xtol before it disappears from the suppliers. I did like the results from Rodinal, just wanted to try some different stuff.


Is Kodak discontinuing? I buy the legacy pro version. Perhaps I should have been supporting Kodak.



Nov 09, 2023 at 02:15 PM
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With winter and snow approaching, I decided to test a couple of rolls of ISO 50 film -- Ilford Pan F and Film Washi S (the Wash S has super high contrast). One interesting thing about Pan F that I read in one of the reviews is that it's best to shoot the roll fairly quickly (over a few days, rather than a few weeks) and process as promptly as possible as it has poor latent image retention.

Sometimes I wish 35mm film was sold in 10-frame rolls like 120 film, for reasons like this. With just 10 frames you can finish a roll quickly, allowing you to change films as conditions change, or switch out colour for B&W, for example, without having to wait to go through 24 or 36 exposures or bring a few cameras with you, each with a different type of film.



Nov 13, 2023 at 08:35 PM
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bjhurley wrote:
With winter and snow approaching, I decided to test a couple of rolls of ISO 50 film -- Ilford Pan F and Film Washi S (the Wash S has super high contrast). One interesting thing about Pan F that I read in one of the reviews is that it's best to shoot the roll fairly quickly (over a few days, rather than a few weeks) and process as promptly as possible as it has poor latent image retention.

Sometimes I wish 35mm film was sold in 10-frame rolls like 120 film, for reasons like this. With just 10 frames you can
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Just shoot off 10 shots and rewind the film…problem solved.😁



Nov 13, 2023 at 08:43 PM
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bjhurley wrote:
With winter and snow approaching, I decided to test a couple of rolls of ISO 50 film -- Ilford Pan F and Film Washi S (the Wash S has super high contrast). One interesting thing about Pan F that I read in one of the reviews is that it's best to shoot the roll fairly quickly (over a few days, rather than a few weeks) and process as promptly as possible as it has poor latent image retention.

Sometimes I wish 35mm film was sold in 10-frame rolls like 120 film, for reasons like this. With just 10 frames you can
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Yes, I've read that about Pan F too and seen it in action where the frame numbers and edge markings are sometimes quite faded.

You could try and find someone who buys in bulk to load you a short roll. Might be a nice side line for a local camera shop.





Nov 13, 2023 at 08:43 PM
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bjhurley wrote:
Sometimes I wish 35mm film was sold in 10-frame rolls like 120 film, for reasons like this. With just 10 frames you can finish a roll quickly, allowing you to change films as conditions change, or switch out colour for B&W, for example, without having to wait to go through 24 or 36 exposures or bring a few cameras with you, each with a different type of film.


Same here. I get why 12-shot rolls aren't common anymore and bulk loading is always an option, but it'd be nice to have a few options right off the shelf.

But with 35mm, I just rewind and make a note about where to pick up when I load it into another camera later. Leave a little bit of a buffer so you don't risk overlapping, and of course make sure your lens cap is on when you advance through the film you've already exposed.



Nov 13, 2023 at 10:30 PM
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Has anyone tried the AristaEDU film?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=Arista%20EDU



Nov 13, 2023 at 11:16 PM
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Has anyone tried the AristaEDU film?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=Arista%20EDU


I've recently bought some Fomapan 100 which is supposedly the same thing; if I get anything decent I'll post it!



Nov 14, 2023 at 05:28 AM
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Lee Saxon wrote:
I've recently bought some Fomapan 100 which is supposedly the same thing; if I get anything decent I'll post it!


There's a long debate/discussion about Arista vs. Fomapan here; the upshot seems to be some people claim they are the same, some claim they are slightly different formulations, some claim Arista is an older formulation that Foma no longer uses, and on and on. Bottom line: nobody other than Foma and Arista employees actually knows, though many claim to know. They sure seem similar, though!

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/120-fomapan-100-vs-arista-edu-100.187155/

I've shot quite a bit of Fomapan 400 and it's one of my favorite films, although at box speed your photos end up very underexposed unless you alter development times from the manufacturer's recommendations. I expose it at EI 200 and even that often feels underexposed to me (I don't develop my own film, so I just give it to the lab and have them develop as normal). I like this film's unpredictability and its grain; if I want consistency, reliability, and predictability I'll shoot digital. With Foma I never quite know what to expect, and I like it.

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Nov 14, 2023 at 06:55 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Has anyone tried the AristaEDU film?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=Arista%20EDU


Yes, I like the 400, especially for the price. It has a classic B&W film look to my eyes. I use it when I'm shooting 35mm in my Pentax 67 with an adapter. I like it for that because it has minimal edge markings.

It's pretty similar to Kentmere Pan 400, IMO.


Arista EDU 400
Pentax 67 w/35mm adapter
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Nov 14, 2023 at 07:08 AM
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OregonSun wrote:
Yes, I like the 400, especially for the price. It has a classic B&W film look to my eyes. I use it when I'm shooting 35mm in my Pentax 67 with an adapter. I like it for that because it has minimal edge markings.

It's pretty similar to Kentmere Pan 400, IMO.

Arista EDU 400
Pentax 67 w/35mm adapter
SMC Pentax 6x7 90mm f/2.8

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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52163278132_376fcb8685_o.jpg



Looks higher contrast than HP5+?



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Fred Miranda wrote:
Has anyone tried the AristaEDU film?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=Arista%20EDU


As others have mentioned, it is rebranded Fomopan. Who make excellent, traditional looking B&W films.
My experience with the current Arista 400 is it is actually an ISO 200 film. If I shoot it at 400, it looks like it is underexposed by one stop.
AristaEDU is/was a marketing exercise by Freestyle Photo to bring affordability to students.



Nov 14, 2023 at 12:55 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Looks higher contrast than HP5+?


If you scan your film, you can manipulate it any way you want.



Nov 14, 2023 at 12:57 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Looks higher contrast than HP5+?


I don't really know, I've never done any kind of controlled comparison of film stocks. I just adjust contrast as desired in conversion/post processing anyway



Nov 14, 2023 at 06:02 PM
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bjhurley wrote:
Sometimes I wish 35mm film was sold in 10-frame rolls like 120 film, for reasons like this. With just 10 frames you can finish a roll quickly, allowing you to change films as conditions change, or switch out colour for B&W, for example, without having to wait to go through 24 or 36 exposures or bring a few cameras with you, each with a different type of film.


Apparently, a solution to this problem from some camera manufacturers was to include a built in film cutter in their cameras

I picked up a pristine Okaya Optics Lord IIA today at a local antique mall (yes, I bought it for the hilarious name, 'going shooting with my Lord today' ) and I learned it has this feature after I looked up the camera online. I'd never heard of this before.

It's a blade attached to a rod that you pull down from the bottom of the camera. Obviously, you would have to unload your cut film in the dark, but it's even better than a short roll 'cause you can cut off any number of frames you want. Looks like a number of Lord models have it.

I haven't tested it yet, since I didn't realize it was there until I started shooting a test roll. Since I don't do my own developing, I doubt I'll ever get any real world use out of it.

Only other mention I could find of this feature was in some Exacta cameras, which also used a take up cartridge, allowing you to cut your film and unload without a darkroom.

I love these kind of surprise engineering solutions that abound in old cameras.



Nov 14, 2023 at 11:38 PM
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bjhurley wrote:
Sometimes I wish 35mm film was sold in 10-frame rolls like 120 film, for reasons like this. With just 10 frames you can finish a roll quickly, allowing you to change films as conditions change, or switch out colour for B&W, for example, without having to wait to go through 24 or 36 exposures or bring a few cameras with you, each with a different type of film.


One reason why I roll my 35 mm B&W films myself using Kalt cartridges and Lloyd or Watson 100' film rollers (I prefer the Lloyd ones).



Nov 15, 2023 at 11:26 AM
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I don't understand people who want less film. I want more!


Nov 15, 2023 at 01:09 PM
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I don't do a lot of night shooting, but when I do I've been using Delta 3200. The internet says to shoot it at 1600, blah blah blah, I just shoot it at box speed. Yeah, there's a lot of grain, but I've been happy with the results (lab developed in D76).

Full disclosure, I use Neat Image noise reduction software to tame the grain when I want to

These were all shot with a Canon EOS3 and EF 28mm f/2.8 or EF STM 40mm f/2.8.














































Nov 15, 2023 at 10:58 PM
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Any Double X fans? I used 5222 for a while and thought about making it my go to film but switched to Tri-X when I got tired of the reloadable cassettes popping open at inappropriate times. I still have a bunch of TX and some HP5+ to work though but I might give it a try again:




Nov 15, 2023 at 11:51 PM
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OregonSun wrote:
I don't do a lot of night shooting, but when I do I've been using Delta 3200. The internet says to shoot it at 1600, blah blah blah, I just shoot it at box speed. Yeah, there's a lot of grain, but I've been happy with the results (lab developed in D76).

Full disclosure, I use Neat Image noise reduction software to tame the grain when I want to

These were all shot with a Canon EOS3 and EF 28mm f/2.8 or EF STM 40mm f/2.8.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51827308005_c4f3c36fc0_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51819745920_e009602cc1_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51866138563_5190a0975b_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51823788562_b9afa491f1_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51824835268_56639a88ba_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51873524742_e3188dde6c_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51874802479_2b80f3019b_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51823383614_5c65d659ff_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51902412248_25104bac84_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51873524152_2d2488717d_o.jpg




Great comps! I really like the processing and halation. Did you use any filter on the lens to achieve this effect?



Nov 15, 2023 at 11:53 PM
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OregonSun wrote:
I don't do a lot of night shooting, but when I do I've been using Delta 3200. The internet says to shoot it at 1600, blah blah blah, I just shoot it at box speed. Yeah, there's a lot of grain, but I've been happy with the results (lab developed in D76).



Those are great shots. I've used T-Max P3200; Delta 3200 is next on my list. T-Max 3200 (I also shot it at box speed) has a lot of grain and halation as well; I used it at an outdoor concert this summer and plan to try Delta 3200 at a jazz concert next week.

Unfortunately my T-Max P3200 shots got marred by some issue in processing; these horizontal dark lines appear on the negatives, not just the scans. Scratches on the film would have appeared as white lines, so these are something else.

I shot these on my Canon P with a 100mm f3.5 Canon LTM lens; there are framelines on that camera for 100mm but they are really small, so framing is sometimes a challenge. :-) Plus the parallax correction on my camera is broken.

Katia 2 by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Katia Rock by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Katia Rock by Brad Hurley, on Flickr




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