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Started looking for some Kodak D76 to use with my remaining rolls of Tr-X but everywhere I looked it was out of stock with no expected return date. I still have about twenty five rolls of Tr-X left but I kicked the idea around for a bit, went to Midwest Photo and ordered twenty rolls of HP5+, which is almost three dollars a roll cheaper. I guess the next move will be to ID-11 when the Film Photography Project FPP-76 is gone.


I tried several times to develop Tri-X used at ISO 400 with D76. Results were never really pleasing for my taste when using accurate developing times as shown in the massive development chart online. Images turned out very grainy with D76. Much better results I accomplished with Xtol instead which is a softer developer. I personally prefer now using a 2-development process by first using Rodinal (1:100 or 1:50) followed by Xtol (1:2, one part stock Xtol, 2 parts water). It provides good micro contrast but avoiding too much grain formation. I described this process a few years ago in the Leica online forum where others independently proved that it works well, too.

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/258970-dual-development-which-one-to-use-first/page/2/#comment-3496571



Oct 31, 2023 at 08:02 AM
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I just ordered a few bags of Kodak Xtol before it disappears from the suppliers. I did like the results from Rodinal, just wanted to try some different stuff.


Oct 31, 2023 at 10:44 AM
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I tried several times to develop Tri-X used at ISO 400 with D76. Results were never really pleasing for my taste when using accurate developing times as shown in the massive development chart online. Images turned out very grainy with D76. Much better results I accomplished with Xtol instead which is a softer developer. I personally prefer now using a 2-development process by first using Rodinal (1:100 or 1:50) followed by Xtol (1:2, one part stock Xtol, 2 parts water). It provides good micro contrast but avoiding too much grain formation. I described this process a few years ago in
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Thanks for the link! Itís a good way to get the best features from both developers.



Oct 31, 2023 at 10:52 AM
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Velvia 50 was in stock last week at B&H for a few days.

People have strong opinions about Velvia, I've always been a huge fan. I love the detail and wonderful saturated colors. It demands the right kind of light and is unforgiving of exposure mistakes, but when it all comes together, there is nothing else like it.

Here are a few examples from my first real use of it when I studied abroad in 1994 as well as some more recent shots.


1994 - Pentax 645 with 75mm f/2.8

















last 5 years - Pentax 67 with 45mm f/4 or 90mm f/2.8






























Nov 06, 2023 at 09:45 PM
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OregonSun wrote:
Velvia 50 was in stock last week at B&H for a few days.

People have strong opinions about Velvia, I've always been a huge fan. I love the detail and wonderful saturated colors. It demands the right kind of light and is unforgiving of exposure mistakes, but when it all comes together, there is nothing else like it.

Here are a few examples from my first real use of it when I studied abroad in 1994 as well as some more recent shots.

1994 - Pentax 645 with 75mm f/2.8

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51526440575_968ddae088_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51513432356_2820190410_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51514364065_3438a80ab3_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51513431796_dee1fb12c4_o.jpg

last 5 years - Pentax 67 with 45mm f/4 or 90mm f/2.8

https://live.staticflickr.com/857/42148968520_837f06bde7_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/848/43957516741_58a97c525d_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/929/43052264615_63f1109ede_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/1793/30089161308_c8c9ae7b79_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51035803263_8f228b1165_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51105266116_ddc43808d8_o.jpg




Beautiful pics.



Nov 06, 2023 at 11:59 PM
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Velvia is special





Nov 07, 2023 at 12:11 AM
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Kodak E100





Nov 07, 2023 at 12:23 AM
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Kodak E100


This reminds me, I really need to give E100 another try. I shot a roll of it a couple years ago in 35mm and wasn't wowed by it. I think I might like it better in 120.



Nov 07, 2023 at 12:38 AM
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OregonSun wrote:
This reminds me, I really need to give E100 another try. I shot a roll of it a couple years ago in 35mm and wasn't wowed by it. I think I might like it better in 120.


That pic was 35mm film in a Minolta Prod 20s P&S camera.



Nov 07, 2023 at 04:19 AM
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Velvia 50

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Desmolicious wrote:
Velvia is special


Both of your pics are fantastic! I'd like to try it. It's still in stock at a few places in 120. So it's slide film, so the main thing is to be sure (compared to C-41) is that it's metered correctly?



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With slide film, it's usually safer to underexpose a little (to avoid blowing highlights) than to overexpose...kind of the opposite from print film. With print film you can "expose to the right" and with slide film "expose to the left." You can also use a spotmeter and take an average between the highlights you want to preserve and whatever shadows you would like to preserve details in. Slide film just has a lot less exposure latitude than print film.


Nov 07, 2023 at 05:09 PM
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bjhurley wrote:
With slide film, it's usually safer to underexpose a little (to avoid blowing highlights) than to overexpose...kind of the opposite from print film. With print film you can "expose to the right" and with slide film "expose to the left." You can also use a spotmeter and take an average between the highlights you want to preserve and whatever shadows you would like to preserve details in. Slide film just has a lot less exposure latitude than print film.


Thank you. Ordered a box in 120 to try out.



Nov 07, 2023 at 05:18 PM
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The cameras with built-in matrix metering should do a good job with slide film, but you'll still occasionally find blown highlights in hard-to-meter situations. I was just scanning some of my old slides and here's an example on Kodachrome, shot with Pentax ME Super (which had center-weighted metering). That white cloud in the background is blown out, but this was a pretty hard scene to meter.

Rainbow by Brad Hurley, on Flickr



Nov 07, 2023 at 05:22 PM
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bjhurley wrote:
The cameras with built-in matrix metering should do a good job with slide film, but you'll still occasionally find blown highlights in hard-to-meter situations. I was just scanning some of my old slides and here's an example on Kodachrome, shot with Pentax ME Super (which had center-weighted metering). That white cloud in the background is blown out, but this was a pretty hard scene to meter.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53317391820_75c50e966b_c.jpgRainbow by Brad Hurley, on Flickr


Frankly slide film has a very narrow dynamic range (as the kids call it nowadays). To get the best results with it, the scene should be evenly lit. Or you are going into it intentionally blowing out highlights or losing shadow detail.

But when you have that scene for it, it is very sweet.
Old, expired Velvia gets a funky look to it:




Nov 07, 2023 at 06:24 PM
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Fresh Velvia 50 makes colours go POINK!




Nov 07, 2023 at 06:27 PM
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Desmolicious wrote:
Frankly slide film has a very narrow dynamic range (as the kids call it nowadays). To get the best results with it, the scene should be evenly lit. Or you are going into it intentionally blowing out highlights or losing shadow detail.


This, along with proper exposure, is the key to success with slide film.

If you do want to shoot in uneven light without losing shadows or highlights, graduated ND filters and/or fill flash are required.



Nov 07, 2023 at 06:34 PM
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And when you use Velvia 50 with a Brooks Plaubel Veriwide 100 - which has a lens that saturates and vignettes - things get really yowza!




Nov 07, 2023 at 06:42 PM
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Off topic but I saw Gold 200 in 120 had a price cut, $32.95 for a 5 pack: https://www.glazerscamera.com/products/gold-200-120-5-pack


Nov 07, 2023 at 07:41 PM
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lifeandmylens wrote:
Off topic but I saw Gold 200 in 120 had a price cut, $32.95 for a 5 pack: https://www.glazerscamera.com/products/gold-200-120-5-pack


If it's about a film stock, it's on topic



Nov 07, 2023 at 08:19 PM
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OregonSun wrote:
If it's about a film stock, it's on topic


Film stock - on topic
Chicken stock - off topic.



Nov 07, 2023 at 08:51 PM
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