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Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses

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p.10 #1 · p.10 #1 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses

OffTrail wrote:
It's almost like Nikon designed the Zf to work specifically with Voigtlander lenses.

You have to laugh when Nikon FINALLY releases an affordable camera with much improved AF and this is the agreed upon line, not that I disagree either.

Nov 02, 2023 at 04:21 PM

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p.10 #2 · p.10 #2 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses

OffTrail wrote:
...it's the Nikon lens that feels like the third-party lens.

Bingo. Brutal truth, but there it is.

Voigtlander – Sigma – Zeiss ––> One or more of them needs to make a weather-sealed manual focus line for Z as well. Zeiss would be the most logical given the existence of the Loxia lenses for E-mount, but Zeiss would need to go back to the C/Y era for external design inspiration (or steal the Voigtlander and vintage Minolta look). The Loxia externals that have the Milvus-inspired rubber focusing rings may look strange on the Zf. Even so, a straight mount change to make them available for Z would be welcome.

In other related news: Canon just introduced an APERTURE RING on their new RF 24-105 f/2.8 L lens. I never would have thought Canon would do this, so there is hope for Nikon!

Nov 02, 2023 at 04:37 PM

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highdesertmesa wrote:
In other related news: Canon just introduced an APERTURE RING on their new RF 24-105 f/2.8 L lens. I never would have thought Canon would do this, so there is hope for Nikon!

Well, it's a fairly specific application, since it's, in practice, a declicked aperture ring specifically for video purposes.

Don't expect anyone, include Canon, to follow suit with future lenses as a default.

Nov 02, 2023 at 04:40 PM

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RoamingScott wrote:
You have to laugh when Nikon FINALLY releases an affordable camera with much improved AF and this is the agreed upon line, not that I disagree either.

Ah, but the best part of the irony is the improved AF benefits manual focus via subject detection

Nov 02, 2023 at 04:41 PM

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p.10 #5 · p.10 #5 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses

I'd really never paid any attention to Nikon before the Z7ii...sometimes I'll mount a classic lens on my Z9 and think "that doesn't look half bad, somehow". Imagine my shock this week when I saw an F5 for the first time. That's a damn Z9 and you can't tell me different

Nov 02, 2023 at 04:44 PM

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RoamingScott wrote:
Well, it's a fairly specific application, since it's, in practice, a declicked aperture ring specifically for video purposes.

Don't expect anyone, include Canon, to follow suit with future lenses as a default.

I do think the aperture ring was added as a video-centric feature, but positive feedback could lead them to produce more of them. I mean, they could have just told videographers to keep using the control ring for aperture.

I read that Canon may be working on a retro camera, and if so, I could see Canon having at least a few manual focus primes with aperture rings announced at the same time.

Nov 02, 2023 at 04:45 PM

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RoamingScott wrote:
I'd really never paid any attention to Nikon before the Z7ii...sometimes I'll mount a classic lens on my Z9 and think "that doesn't look half bad, somehow". Imagine my shock this week when I saw an F5 for the first time. That's a damn Z9 and you can't tell me different

Yup, Nikon can do mechanical perfection if they choose to again. This gives me hope for their future with regard to Zf-matching lenses

Nov 02, 2023 at 04:47 PM

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p.10 #8 · p.10 #8 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses

FYI Kenmore Camera in Kenmore, Washington just received a bunch of Zf in stock. Including the 40mm kit.

Nov 02, 2023 at 06:06 PM

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Desmolicious wrote:
FYI Kenmore Camera in Kenmore, Washington just received a bunch of Zf in stock. Including the 40mm kit.

Great store.

Say, did you see there is a LLL SPII at Popflash for $448?

https://www.popflash.com/light-lens-lab/demo-new-as-new-light-lens-lab-cooke-50mm-f/2-speed-panchro-ii-chrome-leica-m-demo/

Nov 02, 2023 at 06:28 PM

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highdesertmesa wrote:
Great store.

Say, did you see there is a LLL SPII at Popflash for $448?

https://www.popflash.com/light-lens-lab/demo-new-as-new-light-lens-lab-cooke-50mm-f/2-speed-panchro-ii-chrome-leica-m-demo/

That price is so low it is indecent. Almost filthy.

Nov 02, 2023 at 06:33 PM

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p.10 #11 · p.10 #11 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses

I definitely overpaid for mine!

Nov 02, 2023 at 08:15 PM

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Fred Miranda wrote:
I definitely overpaid for mine!

Cheap only works if that is the finish you want…. i dig the black/brass much more. Or the brass/brass.

Nov 02, 2023 at 08:24 PM

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p.10 #13 · p.10 #13 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses

DC watch ( a Japanese Site) had an article of ZF and Voigtlander lens

https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/topic/special/1542465.html

Luka

Nov 03, 2023 at 10:36 AM

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highdesertmesa wrote:
Bingo. Brutal truth, but there it is.

Voigtlander – Sigma – Zeiss ––> One or more of them needs to make a weather-sealed manual focus line for Z as well. Zeiss would be the most logical given the existence of the Loxia lenses for E-mount, but Zeiss would need to go back to the C/Y era for external design inspiration (or steal the Voigtlander and vintage Minolta look). The Loxia externals that have the Milvus-inspired rubber focusing rings may look strange on the Zf. Even so, a straight mount change to make them available for Z would be welcome.

In other related...Show more →

Reading this, it just occurred to me that Zeiss doesn't have any Z-mount lenses, do they? The Loxia line would be a pretty easy solution to weather-resistant MF lenses, but do they have an exclusivity deal with Sony or something?

And just an aside, I was looking at Pentax's catalog to see which of their full-frame Limited lenses still have aperture rings, and I took a look at the 77 f/1.8. I've wanted that lens for years, just never bought a K-1 and they don't adapt well to F-mount. Anyway, their description of the lens opens with "A fun-to-use lens that makes the photo-shooting process more enjoyable..."

What a concept! A lens with a nice build, that has its own character, and isn't thousands of dollars and the size of a football? Yeah, I'm giving Pentax money for that 77 just for that description alone.

Nov 03, 2023 at 10:41 AM

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Nov 03, 2023 at 10:45 AM

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OffTrail wrote:
Reading this, it just occurred to me that Zeiss doesn't have any Z-mount lenses, do they? The Loxia line would be a pretty easy solution to weather-resistant MF lenses, but do they have an exclusivity deal with Sony or something?

And just an aside, I was looking at Pentax's catalog to see which of their full-frame Limited lenses still have aperture rings, and I took a look at the 77 f/1.8. I've wanted that lens for years, just never bought a K-1 and they don't adapt well to F-mount. Anyway, their description of the lens opens with "A fun-to-use lens...Show more →

I am under the impression that Zeiss is not that interested in expanding their lens business to consumer camera market any longer, so will they even bother to make loxia line to Z mount ? I highly doubt it.

I am a bit surprised that how people are obsessed with the 'look' of lens to match ZF. I don't think Nikon S line lenses are that bad with ZF due to the relatively minimal S lens design. But, that is just me. This article shows ZF with many modern lenses including 180-600mm. It looks pretty good to me

https://asobinet.com/review-z-f-outisde/

Nov 03, 2023 at 11:05 AM

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akul wrote:
I am under the impression that Zeiss is not that interested in expanding their lens business to consumer camera market any longer, so will they even bother to make loxia line to Z mount ? I highly doubt it.

I am a bit surprised that how people are obsessed with the 'look' of lens to match ZF. I don't think Nikon S line lenses are that bad with ZF due to the relatively minimal S lens design. But, that is just me. This article shows ZF with many modern lenses including 180-600mm. It looks pretty good to me

https://asobinet.com/review-z-f-outisde/

I mean they look "ok" on the Zf

I think Zf owners would appreciate a few small primes of higher quality than the SE lenses that match the Zf aesthetic. Not a necessity, but I think it would help them sell more Zf cameras.

Using current Z lenses that don't "match" is fine. I'll probably get the 100-400 to use on the Zf+grip at some point.

Nov 03, 2023 at 12:00 PM

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highdesertmesa wrote:
I'll probably get the 100-400 to use on the Zf+grip at some point.

Curious to know how that goes

Nov 03, 2023 at 12:01 PM

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p.10 #19 · p.10 #19 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses

RoamingScott wrote:
No but the E > Z adapter is tiny, so adapting the E Loxias would be a no brainer if you like them.

For me, it may not be worth the hassle of using an adapter combined with losing the weather sealing at the mount. Given the prices of the Loxia, I'd rather use the Voigtlander Z APOs for 35/50/65 range. Maybe the Loxia could fill in the gap in the Voigtlander Z line with either the 21mm or 25mm.

Nov 03, 2023 at 12:04 PM

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RoamingScott wrote:
Curious to know how that goes

Yeah, there may be a Z8 in my future

Nov 03, 2023 at 12:05 PM

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