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With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

The rumors have said only two bodies for 2023, and so it looks like that was correct. My personal prediction is that a Z 6iii, 7iii and a D500 replacement will all come next year. Add in a possible Z 9ii (an Olympic year thing) and I see 2024 as very important for bodies. That said, what's your take on what is the most needed body from Nikon.

Oct 06, 2023 at 04:10 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

I voted the Z6iii but I am not sure why everybody is all over this 33mp sensor thing.

I would rather have faster and lower light that extra MPs.

Oct 06, 2023 at 04:20 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

F7. Nikon already makes enough digital cameras, but at last count, zero film cameras.

Oct 06, 2023 at 04:57 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

Zf F (F mount)

Oct 06, 2023 at 05:29 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

I voted something else because I think all three of these cameras are unreasonable. You aren't going to get near Z9 AF performance without a stacked sensor and I don't think any of these cameras will come with a stacked sensor.

If we get a Z6 III with a stacked sensor it will be a 24MP stacked sensor. Even that is a bit of a reach as I am not sure they can keep the price down enough with even a 24MP stacked sensor. If they can that would make a great Z6 III, which would be competing with the Canon R6 II and Sony A9 III and would look like a good option.

If we get a Z7 III I can't see anyway that it will be a stacked sensor and won't have AF anything like the Z9. That will be fine for a lot of shooters. Not everyone needs the best AF. It will likely be, however, Nikon's highest resolution sensor yet in this camera.

If we get a Z70 or Z90 (the mirrorless D500), then I would bet it will be lower megapixels (probably 20 MP) and will basically be an APS-C sized sensor with the same design as the Z9 sensor. This could of course have excellent AF, but the big question is whether people will be ok with the 20 MP sensor that is a smaller size. I have serious doubts there is a big enough market for such a camera, however.

Those are the cameras we are likely to get, IMO, and if I had to guess which one would be first it would be the Z7 III which should be really easy to do with a 60ish MP back side illuminated non-stacked sensor.

Oct 06, 2023 at 05:34 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

Zf is pretty much Z6iii in a retro body. So we have pretty good idea what Z6 iii will be like when released next year. For those who prefer bigger grip, CFexpress and hopefully 2 ways articulating screen like Z8/Z9 rather than the selfie screen like Zf/Zfc. I don't think there will be other surprises in gen iii Z6. No idea if
Z7 iii will stay 45mp or not.

Certainly there has been rumor regarding D500 replacement in mirrorless body. That has been floating around for quite awhile now but not sure if that will come next year or not but probably.

Flagship Nikon tends to stay around 4 years cycle in the past. I guess Covid got the Olympic schedule messed up but I have not heard anything much about Z9 ii so far.

Oct 06, 2023 at 06:10 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

I think the Z6/7 III’s and a higher (than Z50) end DX should be the most interesting bodies of 2024.
But I don’t think it will be like the suggested specs above esp. Z6 III since something spec’d that way would have arrived a lot sooner.
I think sensor availability might be the reason for the ‘delay’ so probably both Z6/7 III as well as a higher end DX will have sensors yet to be seen before.
I also maintain that much of the AF and subject detection gains will be from EXPEED 7 so there should be substantial AF upgrades across the board (including Zf) but of course you won’t get the extra goodies from stacked sensors like the higher end video specs and blackout free EVF but I do expect them to get to maybe R5 levels of EVF performance (no slideshow) in high frame rate shooting.
I also expect a Z50 II with the same 20MP but with EXPEED 7 and IBIS in a similar form factor.

Oct 06, 2023 at 07:03 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

If the Z500 doesn't have a stacked sensor then I don't want it.

Oct 06, 2023 at 07:19 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

Given that the Z6III will almost certainly be a repackaged ZF, my guess would be that is next. Nikon likes January and March announcements, so that would also be my guess for timeline. Not only is it the most 'needed' camera in Nikon's lineup (at least from my point of view) but presumably it was developed alongside the Zf to save R&D and minimize assembly line modifications. Z7III I think would be their lowest priority because of the very low (relative) price point of the Z8, unless they have plans to take it to 60MP+ to further differentiate it.

A "mirrorless D500" would be my #2 guess. Those bodies have historically been extremely successful for Nikon and they drive a lot of telephoto lens sales.

Oct 06, 2023 at 07:48 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

Desmolicious wrote:
F7. Nikon already makes enough digital cameras, but at last count, zero film cameras.

I've been thinking that too. Better yet, an FM4, so they could base the chassis heavily off the investment they just put into the Zf and syngerize that sector of the market. I'd personally like to see an F7 adapted from the Z8 chassis as well, but I think that's less likely. Either way, 35mm film is pretty much "solved" so we're not talking about tons of R&D money, so it could be a low volume product they produce mainly for bragging rights.

Oct 06, 2023 at 08:13 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

CanadaMark wrote:
Given that the Z6III will almost certainly be a repackaged ZF, my guess would be that is next. Nikon likes January and March announcements, so that would also be my guess for timeline. Not only is it the most 'needed' camera in Nikon's lineup (at least from my point of view) but presumably it was developed alongside the Zf to save R&D and minimize assembly line modifications. Z7III I think would be their lowest priority because of the very low (relative) price point of the Z8, unless they have plans to take it to 60MP+ to further differentiate it.

A "mirrorless...Show more →
Pondering if Z6 III will share the same fundamentals as the Zf, why didn’t the Z6 III arrive first?
Just in the interest of discussions that’s all. We’re all just guessing after all.

Oct 06, 2023 at 08:27 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

I often wonder the cost of adding video features. Would it be possible to get a Z5 II without any video features just an incredibly competitive photography camera?

I just want a rangefinder high resolution portable camera. Basically the A7CR, but in this ecosystem. Is that so much to ask?

Oct 06, 2023 at 08:36 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

RoamingScott wrote:
Zf F (F mount)

Wouldn't that be a DF?

Oct 06, 2023 at 09:03 PM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

Alistair1 wrote:
Wouldn't that be a DF?

No because it will be able to focus accurately.

Oct 07, 2023 at 02:33 AM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

I'd say Z6iii is most needed next, either in stacked 24mpx or 33mpx non-stacked, both with Exspeed 7.
I'd heavily guess it will have a fully articulating screen that will thoroughly upset many people here

Oct 07, 2023 at 06:56 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

BPsmith511 wrote:
I'd say Z6iii is most needed next, either in stacked 24mpx or 33mpx non-stacked, both with Exspeed 7.
I'd heavily guess it will have a fully articulating screen that will thoroughly upset many people here

I think the chances of a stacked sensor coming to the Z6/7 line are near zero. No one offers a stacked full frame sensor outside of the top tier cameras, with the Z8 already being the most affordable solution out there. No way they release another stacked sensor camera at an even lower price point. And there’s really no need to either. The Zf focuses great and the Z7 series doesn’t need anything beyond that same level of focus with great image quality.

Oct 07, 2023 at 07:29 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

Jman13 wrote:
I think the chances of a stacked sensor coming to the Z6/7 line are near zero. No one offers a stacked full frame sensor outside of the top tier cameras, with the Z8 already being the most affordable solution out there. No way they release another stacked sensor camera at an even lower price point. And there’s really no need to either. The Zf focuses great and the Z7 series doesn’t need anything beyond that same level of focus with great image quality.

Eventually, stacked sensor with no mechanical shutter and no slide show evf will become the standard for Z6 level camera. Who will get to there first and when is the question. I’d like that to be sooner than later.

Unlike the many posted here, I really think it would be a big mistake for Nikon to just rest on ‘re-skinned’ Zf. There is no justification for taking them SO LONG to update their bread and butter camera. It seems weak as a company ,and personally feels insulting. They better do better than that to make the wait worthwhile.

Luka

Oct 07, 2023 at 08:52 AM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

They need a 60mp camera. But one that works, and that’s a tall order. It then could have pixel binning, and generate an extremely low noise high iso 15mp image. They should stay away from sensor shift for added resolution.

Oct 07, 2023 at 09:28 AM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

I voted for the Z500, stacked sensor, 26Mpx and as much as Z8/9 goodies as possible.

Oct 07, 2023 at 09:39 AM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · With the Zf out of the way, the next one better be

himurak wrote:
I often wonder the cost of adding video features. Would it be possible to get a Z5 II without any video features just an incredibly competitive photography camera?

I just want a rangefinder high resolution portable camera. Basically the A7CR, but in this ecosystem. Is that so much to ask?

In today's world it's the opposite, what's the cost of removing video features. Cameras are increasingly, if not already, designed as video cameras first. If your camera doesn't do good video, it's going to limit it's potential market, and thus it's going to command a higher price tag to compensate for catering to a smaller, niche market.

Back to the topic, my "need" is a Z6iii to replace my Z6 and Z6ii. But I wouldn't mind a Z7iii either.

Oct 07, 2023 at 09:51 AM

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