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...these netters have taken over a prime Marbled Godwit and American Oystercatcher feeding site in quest of minnows a few inches long. Too many people in New York.
































Oct 03, 2023 at 09:03 AM
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Is it legal?




Oct 03, 2023 at 09:13 AM
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Tyr-Sog wrote:
Is it legal?



I can't make heads or tails out of the rules and there is no chance of enforcement.

I'm moving to Patagonia.




Oct 03, 2023 at 09:16 AM
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Dragonfire wrote:
I can't make heads or tails out of the rules and there is no chance of enforcement.

I'm moving to Patagonia.



Yes, there's a lot of illegal activity I see going on in my area with fishing and what not and the
DNR just ignores it it seems as it just goes on day after day. Yet they seem to harass the father
out with his kids making sure all registrations, license's, fish the right size, etc. etc, are up to date and legal. :shrug:



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There are certain lengths allowed by law depending on state


Oct 03, 2023 at 09:52 AM
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A small "cast net" like shown in your pictures is not typically used for commercial fishing, it's just too small and wouldn't be practical. Where I live currently, for instance, the mullet and shrimp boats are not allowed to drag large nets behind their boats in the bay or in shore area and have to follow specific rules or they can be fined or even lose their commercial license.

So, I'm a little torn on your post, because I used to throw a small cast net myself now and then... but not habitually, nor commercially... but before I put my boat out, I'd throw a cast net in-shore like that to grab bait, throw them in the bucket, that eventually got dumped into the live-well in my boat then I'd head out. I'd be in and out in a few minutes, and don't "think" I disturbed anyone much more than a typical family that brought noisy kids to play with their boogie boards in the surf and make sandcastles

Back in the 70's, some of us guys used to line the shore of Plum Island Ma with long surf rods, usually fishing for blue's when they were running. Nasty fish, lots of teeth... I don't see it as a new issue, maybe just a resurgence of popularity, maybe even economically driven or culturally driven by new residents?

If these guys are hitting one spot repeatedly and daily, I could see where it might be a nuisance... but if they aren't breaking any laws and if they are supplementing their own personal refrigerators to feed their family... well... I have a hard time faulting them as much as it screws up your shot and disturbs some of the local wildlife. It sure beats shoplifting a convenient store, just making sure they don't take over the limit to be prosecuted like is so common on the news today....

BTW, you did get some nice action shots out of the deal, so, well done!
Eric




Oct 03, 2023 at 10:04 AM
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Tyr-Sog wrote:
Is it legal?



I believe it's legal. There are protected areas where it would not be legal including many islands some with bridges for parkways to pass and no parking is well enforced. NYS Troopers pass through at least every 15 min and you don't see parked cars in these locations.

Morris



Oct 04, 2023 at 06:54 AM
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I've seen the same thing with netters at S.Padre Island in Texas near the Birding Center. A couple of guys making a few bucks selling their catch to the local bait shop. At a minimum I'd guess a fishing license is required. If it was illegal there I'd think someone at the birding center would be on it. I didn't see the expected Reddish Egrets or Skimmers; however impossible to know if fewer bait fish was the cause.


Oct 04, 2023 at 12:53 PM







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