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@ottokbre

I agree Sony lenses suck. Tiny cameras and huge lenses. They do have the new small primes. Whatever they are called. F2.4G or whatever. They just don’t have enough of them.

Sensor size really is irrelevant. Noise is also. All that shit people care about now is so unimportant. Some of the best photos I’ve ever seen and that have ever been taken are blurry and out of focus and don’t have a lot of detail.

People now focus on all the wrong things.

I left Fuji after they moved pretty much everything to China and came out with those ridiculous huge made in the Philippines f1.4 lenses. It showed they didn’t care about photography. It’s all about profits now.

Not sure what’s happening with Fuji and the supply issue. They’re obviously just not making some models anymore. They can pump theses things out of China no problems at all. It’s not demand. They’re just not being made.

Either there will be an XE5 and XPro4 in the horizon that were delayed because of the whole COVID China shutdown and it caused a ripple effect we are still feeling now, or they’re are rethinking their stupid lineup.

Or maybe not. Who knows anything.

Just wait. In the grand scheme of things this isn’t important. Spend your money on plane tickets somewhere interesting. That’ll give you better photos.

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Sep 29, 2023 at 11:14 AM
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AmbientMike wrote:
I don't really see why you're leaving Fuji? The X-E3 is going for $700-750, I'm sure it's not appealing to pay that much if the X-E4 sold for a similar price new, but it's not a lot, really, for a digital camera, either.

24mp sensor hardly obsolete at this point. A6700 only 26mp.



No, in fact I was still using an older XT2 in the end. The reason I am left is actually more use-case and workflow oriented. I need something smaller to compliment my film Leica stuff. Which is why I might have sold all of my 1.4 primes to just go back and buy the fuji-chrons and something like the XE3 or an XT3/30/4 etc. The most fun I think I ever had with a camera was an X-E2 and a 35mm LTM adapted lens. I'm not a paid/working photographer so it's entirely up to my whims.



Sep 29, 2023 at 11:17 AM
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@ottokbre@

I agree Sony lenses suck. Tiny cameras and huge lenses. They do have the new small primes. Whatever they are called. F2.4G or whatever. They just don’t have enough of them.

Sensor size really is irrelevant. Noise is also. All that shit people care about now is so unimportant. Some of the best photos I’ve ever seen and that have ever been taken are blurry and out of focus and don’t have a lot of detail.

People now focus on all the wrong things.

I left Fuji after they moved pretty much everything to China and came out with those ridiculous
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The 40/2.5 and 50/2.5 G are really nice. Unfortunately the 24/2.8 G requires an insane amount of in-camera processing to correct. It's that distorted. I tried the A7C and hated the ergos but if I just become a Sony A7 normie those will be the first lenses I buy.

But I agree on the noise/DR/sensor size demands. Most of the amazing stuff I come across is some dude and his Sony RX100 or some other 2/3rd sensor compact. The one photo of mine that I recently rediscovered that I love was taken with an M8 and no IR cut filter. A crop CCD image with all sorts of color shift issues.




Sep 29, 2023 at 11:22 AM
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ottokbre wrote:
No, in fact I was still using an older XT2 in the end. The reason I am left is actually more use-case and workflow oriented. I need something smaller to compliment my film Leica stuff. Which is why I might have sold all of my 1.4 primes to just go back and buy the fuji-chrons and something like the XE3 or an XT3/30/4 etc. The most fun I think I ever had with a camera was an X-E2 and a 35mm LTM adapted lens. I'm not a paid/working photographer so it's entirely up to my whims.


Hey I definitely think I'd use an x-e2 if that's your favorite. I know on canon the differences between 18mp and 24mp are minimal, for my shooting. 16mp Fuji should be just fine.







Sep 29, 2023 at 11:23 AM
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mahimihi wrote:
I agree Sony lenses suck.


Perfect thing to write... if you don't want to be taken seriously.

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Regarding the inclusion of things like hybrid viewfinders... ottokbre wrote:
Consumer demand seems to agree.


I think that is true to an extent regarding a camera like the X100v, at least for now.

However, I don't think there's a lot of evidence that the XPro3 has been a huge seller, and I think that a XPro4 would not be all that successful against the Fujifilm competition from the XT5 and XH models. That's a whole lot of cameras in roughly the same price range.

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More generally...

Manual focus shooting is not faster than shooting with a modern. AF camera... unless you use the old school technique that we used to rely on... of setting to about f/8, guessing that our subjects might be about X feet away, pref-focusing to that distance, then shooting without adjusting focus.

It worked, However, in those days, of course, the standard was that street photography prints were usually small — 8 x 10 was considered kind of large and it was unusual to see a lot of 11 x 14 prints. So the slight OOF quality of those images was acceptable. (If that is still acceptable to you, then what you say about accuracy seems pretty irrelevant.)

Or, the alternate technique (mastered by very, very few and perhaps no one here) of learning the focus ring settings so well that you could move the ring to roughly match your instantaneous _guess_ about the distance without looking at the ring.

Which is still... not as fast as using AF.

Nor as accurate.

As to accuracy, there are situations in which manual focusing can be more "accurate" than AF, though actually it is more of a mater of it being better able to account for some complex issues. I prefer to MF when doing landscape photography from the tripod. Here I usually have much more time to consider focusing options — WAY more than in typical street photography — so. I can do things like use the live view at 16x magnification and zoom around the image with the DOF preview switch pushed in, allowing me to verify how well the chosen focus point and aperture cover the subject... and make subtle adjustments if necessary.

The notion that manual focus — especially in the quick world of street photography — is more accurate simply doesn't hold up. If you tell me that, instead, you are OK with its inaccuracy (and slowness) and are fine with a lower standard of sharpness, that's an entirely different thing.

And... if you do prefer, as I do now, to use AF by default for shooting street and similar subjects...

... you can still manually focus your AF lens in the rare situations where the advantages may be worth it — extra time, stationary. subject, complex focus issues, etc.

As to the (to use the usual hackneyed description) "jewel-like quality" of old-school MF-only lenses, I get it. I feel that little bit of joy when I handle the old lenses I was brought up on. Their lovely, tight, old-school construction is attractive and brings back fond memories... in the same way that I get that feeling when I see a tricked out VW van that reminds me of the one I owned so many decades ago... or the feeling when I see wooden cross-country skis like those I used in the 1970s... or the warm feeling when I remember my first PC in the early 1980s...

... but I don't drive a VW van any more, I don't use my Splitkein skis (though I still have them in the garage), and I'm not using my original IBM PC to type this. ;-)

However, if you do like to use MF gear because the appeal of the old stuff works for you, that's absolutely fine. Just say THAT is the reason... rather than trying to tell those of us who had to use that stuff back in the day (and were glad we had it) that the new stuff can't make equally good or better photographs.

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Sep 29, 2023 at 11:24 AM
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@gdanmitchell

If you read it in context they do. We are talking about lens SIZE.

What’s the point buying a super tiny a6xxx when the lenses available are as big as a new born baby?

@otoolbre

Those Sony lenses that require a lot of in-camera corrections suffer from the thing a lot of Fuji lenses also do. A LOT of in-camera trickery. That’s why Fuji files look so digital and corrected at times.

Their best lenses are the first ones they made. 35f1.4 and the original 56f1.4. Also the 16f1.4 which has a lot of issues at f1.4 and it’s great. Sign the manual clutch and real manual focusing instead of you spin the focus ring forever focus by wire thing.

They just don’t make them like that anymore.

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Sep 29, 2023 at 11:32 AM
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mahimihi wrote:
@gdanmitchell@

If you read it in context they do. We are talking about lens SIZE.


They might be too big for your purposes. They don't "suck."

...the lenses available are as big as a new born baby?

Hyperbole much?




Sep 29, 2023 at 11:34 AM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
Perfect thing to write... if you don't want to be taken seriously.

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Regarding the inclusion of things like hybrid viewfinders...

I think that is true to an extent regarding a camera like the X100v, at least for now.

However, I don't think there's a lot of evidence that the XPro3 has been a huge seller, and I think that a XPro4 would not be all that successful against the Fujifilm competition from the XT5 and XH models. That's a whole lot of cameras in roughly the same price range.


I think the Xpro3 sold ok, and when refurbs pop up on their website they are gone within an hour. I think the margins were small to non-existent though. The OVF seems pricy to make, and along with supply chain issues for it, explains why the X100V production can never keep up with demand. It may be that the Xpro is a trophy for Fuji with the goal of getting people excited but the money is in the GX and XT bodies and seasonal pro users.

Also, I titled this thread "trash talk" because none of it should be taken too seriously. It's mostly venting. We are all spoiled by so much camera technology that there isnt really any thing to complain about that isnt just preference and obsession over the ojbect that is the camera.



Sep 29, 2023 at 11:40 AM
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ottokbre wrote:
No, in fact I was still using an older XT2 in the end. The reason I am left is actually more use-case and workflow oriented. I need something smaller to compliment my film Leica stuff. Which is why I might have sold all of my 1.4 primes to just go back and buy the fuji-chrons and something like the XE3 or an XT3/30/4 etc. The most fun I think I ever had with a camera was an X-E2 and a 35mm LTM adapted lens. I'm not a paid/working photographer so it's entirely up to my whims.


Maybe I should have mentioned this in the previous post , but I'm not sure what you meant by use-case and I'd think pp'ing Fuji cameras is pretty similar so I'm not sure about any workflow differences?



Sep 29, 2023 at 11:40 AM
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FWIW, Fuji have said the X-Pro 3 has sold just fine, but not remarkably so. It seems it sold much better than the 1 or 2 in its launch month, but that quickly dropped off. The inflated prices you're seeing today and the fast sales are due to A) there not being much supply, as it seems Fuji halted production fairly early, and B) the TikTok trend ate up the X100V, so people are paying every last penny they have to hold anything that looks vaguely similar.

Bear in mind that as far as Fuji are concerned, second hand sales effectively don't exist. They only care when your money goes to them, not to someone on eBay or to MPB or KEH.

As I said earlier, I'm sure they will eventually try to cash in on the TikTok trend, but at this point it'll likely be too late and they'll have missed the peak of it. (In fact, it seems they already have missed the peak.) An X-Pro 4 is inevitable, but what exactly it will be is totally up in the air. I would be equally unsurprised if they put back a 'proper' rear screen or if they minimised the rear screen even further, for example. I don't think Fuji know what they want the X-Pro line to be, really, now that they have the X-H as their flagship line and they're advertising the X-T5 as the main 'stills' camera.
It's ironic that the series called 'Pro' is likely to become a more and more niche enthusiast toy, or else have to do a major 180° to earn its name back.

(For the record, none of this is a criticism of any of the X-Pro models; Fuji are fumbling the ball, but the cameras themselves have all been fine in their own way, to me. Just a shame they never come in a proper silver colour.)



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@gdanmitchell

Some Sony lenses do suck. That’s a fact. Some do some don’t. Like every manufacturer of lenses. Some are good some are shit.

Unfortunately this is Sony life







Good thing about Fuji is they have their f2 lineup. This is what really set them apart.

They need to shrink the XT to the XT1/2 era. Fuji bodies are getting too big. Which is why a health supply of XE bodies is necessary and I’m not sure what’s the issue. I’ll say it’s the COVID China manufacturing problems. And hopefully it’s over now.

Where I live they JUST started selling the PlayStation 5 in stores. Came out 2+ years ago if I remember correctly. The COVID supply problems are real.

Fuji should do what Sony did And take all their manufacturing out of China. Sony cameras will now be made like Nikon. In Thailand. They had enough of communists stopping factories whenever they felt like it.



Sep 29, 2023 at 11:59 AM
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mahimihi wrote:
@gdanmitchell@

If you read it in context they do. We are talking about lens SIZE.

What’s the point buying a super tiny a6xxx when the lenses available are as big as a new born baby?


I wouldn't quite say that. Even though I also prefer Fuji lens lineup, Sony's APSC lineup has become pretty good as well now including some pretty good compact options. For example Sony 16-55mm f2.8 is significantly smaller and lighter compared to Fuji 18-55mm f2.8. Sony 16-70 f4, 10-20 f4 PZ, and 10-18 f4 are also compact and light. On the primes side, Sony 15mm 1.4 G, 35mm 1.8, 40mm 2.5 G, 50 2.5G etc are nice compact prime options. A frame 85mm 1.8 on a Sony APS-C body would be much smaller than the the 90mm f2 that I use on Fuji. Then you add third party offerings like Sigma 56mm 1.4, Sigma 18-50mm f2.8, Tamron 11-20 f2.8 and more.

So there are quite a few very good options in there. Sure the lineup is still not as fully fleshed out as Fuji APS-C lineup but it is pretty good. If anything my main reason to not choose Sony would be that I don't like the Sony APS-C bodies.

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Sep 29, 2023 at 12:11 PM
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Fuji stopped making great cameras with the XT2 and XPro2. And their lineup of f2 lenses 23-35-50. It was all downhill from there. Coincided with their move to China. Even their lenses now look like rebadged Viltrox lenses.

The XPro4 will come out. They’ll figure out some other gimmick to sell it. Hopefully the XPro3 design is now dead and they’ll make an updated XPro2. This camera was always meant to be a niche use camera. A “poor man’s Leica”.

But if you want a Leica just go get one. A Fuji can’t touch that experience. Ever.

I got rid of my XPro3 and I don’t miss it in the slightest. It was just yet another disposable consumer electronic device that I bought and sold.

@curious80

If I bought a a Sony I would ignore APS-C. But I wouldn’t. I would just get a Nikon and be done with it. Maybe that new Zf. Has all the Fuji controls and it’s full frame.

Nikon Zf = Fuji killer.



Sep 29, 2023 at 12:14 PM
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mahimihi wrote:
Fuji stopped making great cameras with the XT2 and XPro2. And their lineup of f2 lenses 23-35-50. It was all downhill from there. Coincided with their move to China. Even their lenses now look like rebadged Viltrox lenses.


People get too emotionally vested in brands imho. I have used pretty much every brand including Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Panasonic, Pentax and Olympus (no leica). For me Fuji meets my needs at this point and I like what it offers, so I use it. I don't care whether someone perceives its cameras as 'great' or not but they work well for me. Tomorrow if some other system meets my needs better I will switch.


But if you want a Leica just go get one. A Fuji can’t touch that experience. Ever.


Again not sure why people worship brands. Its great that you like Leica. I have not used one but I am sure it works amazingly well for many users. Does that mean everyone needs it? No.



@curious80@

If I bought a a Sony I would ignore APS-C. But I wouldn’t. I would just get a Nikon and be done with it. Maybe that new Zf. Has all the Fuji controls and it’s full frame.

Nikon Zf = Fuji killer.


Well I use a full frame Sony, but for APS-C I use Fuji instead of Sony - again because it meets my particular needs in a better way. As for Nikon ZF being a Fuji killer - other than the fact that they share a retro look, these are two very different systems. Frankly the fact that you are comparing Leica, and Fuji and Nikon ZF tell me that you are focusing on form over function.



Sep 29, 2023 at 01:05 PM
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mahimihi wrote:
They need to shrink the XT to the XT1/2 era. Fuji bodies are getting too big.

Why are so many of you making remarks like this? The X-T5 is the same size as the X-T2/3, other than a marginal increase to the grip depth, and all three are barely any larger than the X-T1
X-T2 vs X-T5 size:
https://camerasize.com/compare/#679,900

X-T1 v X-T5 size:
https://camerasize.com/compare/#520,900

You can see there that the X-T1 is only 0.5mm narrower and 1.2mm shorter than the X-T5; the 17.1mm difference in thickness includes both the grip and the eyecup, and unlike the X-T1, the X-T5's eyecup can be removed and/or replaced with a smaller one much more easily, and the grip extension is still less depth than the 27mm f/2.8 is – in other words, having any lens on the body means the increased grip effectively is not taking up any extra space, since any lens will take up more space anyway, even a pancake lens.

The X-T2, 3 and 5 are only very marginally larger than the X-T1. Only the X-T4 is substantially larger, and that body isn't in production any more; nobody is forcing you to buy an X-H, either.



Sep 29, 2023 at 01:36 PM
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Maybe I should have mentioned this in the previous post , but I'm not sure what you meant by use-case and I'd think pp'ing Fuji cameras is pretty similar so I'm not sure about any workflow differences?


Part of it is workflow. I am a bit married to Lightroom because I use Negative Lab Pro which isnt available on more Fuji friendly platforms like Capture One.

I'm one of those people that doesn't actually care for XTrans sensors, not just because of sharpening worms in Lightroom but because color grading Xtrans is not my favorite. I guess the work around is a demosaic plugin of some sort.

I thought I could solve all of this and use my Leica lenses on a Full Frame mirrorless body. But that devolved into a system sort of stuck in SLR sized and styled bodies (and yeah, AF is better than I can focus through an EVF).

The other part of rangefinder-ish bodies is they carry much better on a strap. In fact, my favorite aspect of a Leica M (or a barnack!) is that I could have one strapped to me all day and not be bothered by it. It's body heavy (vs. lens heavy) and doesn't have anything protruding from the back. The Nikon Z6, which I think is a wonderful camera in operation, has a pronounced EVF that sticks out and is pretty awful to carry cross-body on a strap.

I sort of rediscovered how much I like a full sized DSLR because the grip is so big my right hand doesn't interfere with my left-eye shooting. But scale that down to a Fuji XT body and its knuckles in the eye socket all day long. So I am keeping the Nikon D610 as my BIG high-DR camera instead of full frame mirrorless.

So that mainly leaves an everyday carry which could double as my small-bag-buddy for my film M when I am traveling.

Honestly, a micro four thirds body and those tiny primes starts to check off all of the boxes.



Sep 29, 2023 at 03:00 PM
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^^ Any problems with Lightroom are easily fixed by using the Enhance Detail processing, which was developed specifically to get the most detail out of Fuji files. (Which is why it does absolutely nothing visible to files from other systems.) In fact it's a more advanced version of the base processing C1 uses.

As long as you have a desktop computer with a dedicated GPU—in other words, basically any actual editing station rather than an off-the-shelf family PC—you can use Enhance Detail processing and you'll get clearer results than you would with C1. The only difference is the files that LR spits out end up being larger, but that's just the nature of having more information in the photo.

Really, it is an X-Trans problem, and not a fault of software. By clumping green photosites together the way X-Trans does, it means there are comparatively large areas which can't sense any red or blue light. It's not that LR, or any other processor, can't demosiac them, it's that information wasn't recorded in the first place. This has of course become less of an issue as resolution has increased, but still, it's there. All software can do is take a totally blind guess at what should be there. LR's base processing tries to be quick, so it only surveys in 2x2 blocks, thus falling victim to the all-green blocks. C1's is a bit more careful and surveys both 2x2 and 3x3 blocks, so it can make a more-educated guess as to what should be there. LR's Enhance Detail processing goes further, surveying 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, and 6x6 blocks (I don't know why they skip 5x5), so it can make the most educated guess as to how to fill in the blanks; this is why it requires a dedicated GPU and is a slower, manually-initiated processing option, rather than a default.

Personally, I recommend LR to anyone who has a GPU, and simply get used to culling and doing your basic edits first, then apply the enhanced processing at the end, right before you print or export large. That way you're only suffering the extra time and file sizes for the files which will really benefit. (Of course if you export or print at reduced sizes then who cares about whether you can render every last bit of detail that will be too small to see, anyway.)

TL;DR: LR is the most "Fuji friendly platform", as long as you have the hardware to utilise its full processing power.


Anyhoo. No style or size of camera can suit everybody. FWIW the Olympus E-P7 with their many pancake primes (and even the collapsible zoom) is my pick for most practical rangefinder-styled body, if that's the sort of thing you're in the market for. It's a great camera which largely flew under the radar due to a very limited US release initially, and for all intents and purposes is an even smaller X-E4 with more appropriate lenses.

It's a shame Fuji have only made one pancake and one semi-pancake lens, because Olympus and Panasonic have proven there's value in being able to make a full pancake kit, even if you have to compromise on aperture.



Sep 29, 2023 at 03:52 PM
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^^ Any problems with Lightroom are easily fixed by using the Enhance Detail processing, which was developed specifically to get the most detail out of Fuji files. (Which is why it does absolutely nothing visible to files from other systems.) In fact it's a more advanced version of the base processing C1 uses.

As long as you have a desktop computer with a dedicated GPU—in other words, basically any actual editing station rather than an off-the-shelf family PC—you can use Enhance Detail processing and you'll get clearer results than you would with C1. The only difference is the files that LR
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Yes! Those damn green photosites! But wow, LR can work with that. This is new information to me.

I don't actually mind the lack of sharpness in default LR raw conversion. It's the damn colors. But if its upscaling them into something I can work from as a zero point than maybe that's my problem. And as luck would have it I have a custom built machine with a pretty good GPU. Although I bought an iPad for color editing, I cant use NLP on it anyways, so reverted back to the computer (I really need to get the monitor calibrated. Time to buy a proper kit for that).

Time to do some testing!



Sep 29, 2023 at 04:02 PM
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Anyhoo. No style or size of camera can suit everybody. FWIW the Olympus E-P7 with their many pancake primes (and even the collapsible zoom) is my pick for most practical rangefinder-styled body, if that's the sort of thing you're in the market for. It's a great camera which largely flew under the radar due to a very limited US release initially, and for all intents and purposes is an even smaller X-E4 with more appropriate lenses.



Oh man. Why oh why didn't they put a little EVF on that E-P7? Even a tiny GM1 style one.



Sep 29, 2023 at 04:06 PM
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I don't think Fuji know what they want the X-Pro line to be, really, now that they have the X-H as their flagship line and they're advertising the X-T5 as the main 'stills' camera.

It's ironic that the series called 'Pro' is likely to become a more and more niche enthusiast toy, or else have to do a major 180° to earn its name back.


Taking your second point first, yes. The original two versions of the XPro represented a pretty clear vision: A camera that was the most flexible one they produced that was equally at home using the OVF and a small prime for street photography or switching to EVF and big lenses for just about anything else.

When the XPro3 came around, its place was diminished in two ways. First, other cameras assumed the defacto flagship “pro” position. At first it was the XT line and the first attempt at the XH. Today it is roughly the same, with the XT5 functioning as the small stills camera for things like street, but also adaptable to using any other Fujifilm lens, The XH pushes things a bit further and gives up the knobs and dials interface for the PASM approach used by other manufacturers.

In fact, Fujifilm “niche-ified” the XPro3 —  instead of being a fully powerful, do-it-all leader in the lineup, it was presented as the camera for something the marketing department called “pure photography.” What that means about the photography done with other Fujifilm cameras never made sense.

To your first point, I think that is right, too. Fujifilm is stuck in a spot with the XPro line. It is far less interesting to general photographers than it was back in the day, and given the price that a full featured version would have it competes with three other high-end Fujifilm bodies.

I still think that we may not ever see a XPro4, or that we might see something like a “super X100v” with an electronic viewfinder and interchangeable lense. Oh, wait… that is the XT5! :-)

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sebjmatthews wrote:
Why are so many of you making remarks like this?


It is really just one person. One hyperbole-infected person. Best to just ignore I think.

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sebjmatthews wrote:
…Enhance Detail processing… does absolutely nothing visible to files from other systems..


That is not my experience at all. I do a lot of wintertime migratory bird photography, and sometimes early and late in the day I’m pushing the ISO in low light. I’ve gotten pretty good at dealing manually with the inevitable increase in noise. However, I ran the Enhance process on some of them and it made a marked improvement.

I think that part of what is going on is that the software is doing a better job of distinguishing between noise and detail… and definitively not just on Fujifilm files.

Dan

BTW: I think that the XPro concept was one of Fujifilm’s most innovative, and I made many thousands of photographs with my XPro2 before replacing it this past year with the XT5.



Sep 29, 2023 at 07:00 PM
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