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New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch

  
 
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Price is bad comparing to other Chinese brands with way more track record, but a bargain if you take a look at the summilux. Let's see what happens with this one. I think you are going to be one of the first testers in the world, but I've reached people from Thypoch and I agree they tend to be a little too elusive. Maybe before Christmas we will find out if this 28 deserves all the credit. I hope so.

BastianK wrote:
I wish for that, too. Hence I was hoping there are already some samples out there, that I have just missed.
I did contact them already, but nothing solid came out of it yet.

The lenses are probably a bit too pricey for me to just buy/preorder and hope for the best
(like I did with 7A 28mm 1.4 and Mr. Ding 50mm 1.1, which were/are less than half the price).

PS: I did sell my 7A 28mm 1.4 FE+ and sometimes I regret that. But then I remember why I sold it (weight, MFD, sunstars).




Nov 06, 2023 at 10:01 AM
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p.3 #2 · p.3 #2 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


The MFD of the 28 1.4 is 0.4m. But adapted on a mirrorless it will not matter (using a close focus adapter) that much. Of course for main use on a Leica-M the Simera has a good MFD-advatage to the 7Artisans. The two other advantages are: 160g less weight and floating elements.


Nov 06, 2023 at 10:19 AM
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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


nehemiahphoto wrote:
I wonder if these are measured or theoretical.

Also, just watched the video review you posted (thanks!). Interesting but when it was hard for me to weigh many of his comments--very subjective. I went back and watched his CV 35/1.5 review, a lens which I owned and shot. Didn't agree with his take much as all.

I'll probably give either the 28 or 35 a whirl once available.


I'm guessing computed. But even then, should give an approximation of what to expect if the actual lenses are close in overall quality/character.

Below are MTFs from the current Leica 28 and 35 Lux ASPHs, as well as the Thypochs:

28 Lux:



35 Lux ASPH 2022:














The block diagram of the Thypoch 35 is quite similar to the 35 Lux:





Nov 06, 2023 at 11:07 AM
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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


serhan_ wrote:



Interestingly photos on Sony also:



Maybe it's just me but I stopped the video 5 seconds in after hearing "sometimes I feel I am not truly connected to my surroundings".



Nov 06, 2023 at 11:58 AM
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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


The 28 Lux looks like a slightly simplified version of the 28 also.







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Nov 06, 2023 at 12:00 PM
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Desmolicious wrote:
Maybe it's just me but I stopped the video 5 seconds in after hearing "sometimes I feel I am not truly connected to my surroundings".


That video is insufferableóso many regurgitated Leica cliches and so little content.



Nov 06, 2023 at 12:07 PM
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bluehawaii wrote:
The 28 looks like a slightly simplified version of the 28 Lux also.

https://www.photoreview.com.au/wp-content/uploads/images/media/images2017/optical-design5/2669871-1-eng-GB/optical-design.jpg

How can the lens with more elements be the simplified version?



Nov 06, 2023 at 12:23 PM
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Look at the front group.

Samyang did a similar thing with the 35 and 50 when they copied Sony's 35(x2), 55 (45) and 50 designs.



Nov 06, 2023 at 12:28 PM
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bluehawaii wrote:
Look at the front group.

Maybe I wasn't specific enough: how can an 11/7 design be a simplified version of a 10/7 design?
Saying that makes absolutely zero sense.



Nov 06, 2023 at 12:51 PM
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BastianK wrote:
Maybe I wasn't specific enough: how can an 11/7 design be a simplified version of a 10/7 design?
Saying that makes absolutely zero sense.


Sorry I need to proof read better. For some reason I thought I put The 28 Lux looks like a slightly simplified version of the 28 also, which is what I meant. Edited.



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Desmolicious wrote:
Maybe it's just me but I stopped the video 5 seconds in after hearing "sometimes I feel I am not truly connected to my surroundings".


I guess it's not just limited to their website text-based content, as I commented on the first page:

rscheffler wrote:
... after reading through all the marketing gibberish I have to wonder if there's a special copywriting school in China from which these lens companies hire their marketing staff? It's almost comical, the verbosity.





Nov 06, 2023 at 09:45 PM
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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


rscheffler wrote:
I guess it's not just limited to their website text-based content, as I commented on the first page:



To be fair, pretty much everyone does this trying to sell gear. Whoever it is, whatever it is, you MUST GET IT as it will finally show you the truth. Which is why I use old film gear - my truth is when Iím happy I didnít fog my Kentmere.



Nov 06, 2023 at 10:28 PM
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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


The lenses, both in black and silver, can now be pre-ordered from B&H Photo. I really hope to see more sample images because the ones from "Simera" don't show how well these lenses perform.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=Thypoch%20Simera



Nov 11, 2023 at 06:51 PM
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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


I canít believe that font actually made it to production! The rest of the lens looks great.
The 28 1.4 is more interesting than the 35, as Voigtlander already has the 35 range covered at the same price point.
Iím actually surprised Voigtlander has not made a 28 1.4.



Nov 11, 2023 at 07:58 PM
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p.3 #15 · p.3 #15 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


I can't recall a $700 dollar hyped lens being sold without a single solid review or sample photo.

Feels like they have zero confidence in the product.

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Nov 12, 2023 at 01:26 PM
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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


nehemiahphoto wrote:
I can't recall a $700 dollar hyped lens being sold without a single review or sample photo.

Feels like they have zero confidence in the product.

I am not biting the bullet on one of these before I haven't seen something substantial.



Nov 12, 2023 at 01:32 PM
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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


BastianK wrote:
I am not biting the bullet on one of these before I haven't seen something substantial.


Ditto. I was going to pre-order, but too B.S.-y for me. I also don't trust the English-spoken video review posted earlier in this thread.



Nov 12, 2023 at 02:57 PM
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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


The only clue we have is the review of the 35mm by Generic Photographer on Youtube. What is difficult to understand is Thypoch's marketing strategy if the product is actually good.


Nov 13, 2023 at 03:47 AM
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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


BastianK wrote:
I am not biting the bullet on one of these before I haven't seen something substantial.


"sometimes I feel I am not truly connected to my surroundings" was not substantial enough for you?




Nov 13, 2023 at 02:14 PM
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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · New M-Mount 28/1.4 and 35/1.4 from Thypoch


So you bought a bunch of Chinese lenses and now you want to sell them Ė here are some quotes photorumors got:
https://photorumors.com/2023/11/14/so-you-bought-a-bunch-of-chinese-lenses-and-now-you-want-to-sell-them-here-are-some-quotes-i-got/



Nov 14, 2023 at 03:27 PM
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