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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

I recently bought a new camera to use for my guitar instruction videos since I'm trying to get serious about it. It's a canon R6 mark ii.

I've been using OBS to capture the video from HDMI and have had poor results with it. For 4k30, I have the encoder bit rate set to 45000 Kbps for 30 frames and 68000 Kbps and I've tried both MP4 and MKV output formats. The quality varies quite a bit and I find that I have to terminate just about everything on the computer. microsoft chrome or edge is the worst culprit for eating up CPU usage and adobe products are just as bad.

I was getting results that at times were better than my previous recordings at standard HD (1920x1080) but only marginally so and was at the point where I was thinking the investment in new hardware might not be worth the results.

But today, I recorded to the camera's card for the first time instead of "capturing" over HDMI and the results from the camera are ridiculously better than capturing. Much less grainyness and clarity and I'm finding that 4k30 is just fine for guitar videos.

I ran into an issue where, having a USB cable connected disables the HDMI display... I don't want a scenario where I have to continually connect and disconnect cables.

I discovered that when I run EOS Utility on the computer, it allows the HDMI to pass through.

Sadly, the R6 cannot produce a clean HDMI output when the camera is set to internal capture. It outputs focus rectangles and other info into the HDMI so I cannot simul-capture in both places. Oddly, when camera is set to both internal and external monitors, you cannot capture to the camera's SD card.

I do like not being dependent on the computer losing cycles due to windows updates, windows defender and other background tasks so I think this is probably the best alternative....

I really wish canon would implement the removable device standard on the camera so you could just copy files via windows explorer instead of having to run their app. And why do they disable the HDMI output by default when it detects a USB data connection?

Sep 21, 2023 at 10:16 AM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

anyone?

Sep 22, 2023 at 04:55 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

On the R6 MK II, internal recording is disabled when outputting clean HDMI. I've heard you can do dual capture on higher models but I have no first hand experience beyond my R7 and R6 MK II. Not used Windows before either.

Sep 22, 2023 at 10:39 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

Gochugogi wrote:
On the R6 MK II, internal recording is disabled when outputting clean HDMI. I've heard you can do dual capture on higher models but I have no first hand experience beyond my R7 and R6 MK II. Not used Windows before either.

do you experience the issue I have that when the USB cable is hooked up, you get a black screen over HDMI until you run the eos utility?

Sep 23, 2023 at 06:44 AM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

Have thought about recording guitar as you’ve mentioned but have never tried. Coming from a bit of video editing, my thoughts so far had been to video using two cameras and then using software to sync the files and having frame within a frame for the final product. I’ve written multiple original songs on guitar and, now that my granddaughter is playing, I’d like to have something more permanent to show the strumming or picking methods.

Sep 23, 2023 at 07:13 AM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

crteach wrote:
Have thought about recording guitar as you’ve mentioned but have never tried. Coming from a bit of video editing, my thoughts so far had been to video using two cameras and then using software to sync the files and having frame within a frame for the final product. I’ve written multiple original songs on guitar and, now that my granddaughter is playing, I’d like to have something more permanent to show the strumming or picking methods.

I haven't incorporated the 2nd camera yet. I'd like to start doing that. Right now, I have to do multiple recordings when I want to show the picking or fretboard but it'd be nice to have a 2nd camera with a closeup of those areas. With the 6R, the image is clean enough that sometimes I can just isolate a section of the original recording but usually it's a little bit too grainy when I do it that way.

Sep 23, 2023 at 07:36 AM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

I use HDMI out for a 7" monitor I have on an arm mounted on the tripod and pointed at the player (me). Thus I can see the composition and make minor adjustments to the guitar to avoid reflections from the softboxes. I normally use outboard audio (Tascam and 2 KM184 mics) and often two cameras. I trigger the cameras with a remote and record straight to the cameras, syncing the audio and two cameras in Final Cut Pro. Since 2015, I managed to create over 300 guitar performance and instructional videos on my channel.

https://www.youtube.com/c/PeterFrary

Sep 23, 2023 at 09:38 AM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

Gochugogi wrote:
I use HDMI out for a 7" monitor I have on an arm mounted on the tripod and pointed at the player (me). Thus I can see the composition and make minor adjustments to the guitar to avoid reflections from the softboxes. I normally use outboard audio (Tascam and 2 KM184 mics) and often two cameras. I trigger the cameras with a remote and record straight to the cameras, syncing the audio and two cameras in Final Cut Pro. Since 2015, I managed to create over 300 guitar performance and instructional videos on my channel.

https://www.youtube.com/c/PeterFrary

Your playing and the videos sound great!

my instructional videos are at www.youtube.com/@jackzucker

That's sort of what I do too though I use the HDMI out to the computer and monitor it there. The thing I'm running into is that I prefer to transfer the files over USB and don't want to continuously plug and unplug usb cables or pull the memory card out to stick it into the computer. The camera appears as a removable drive for windows so it's easy to transfer the files.

HOWEVER - the hdmi doesn't render unless I run eos utility. For some reason, running it - even without connecting - allows the hdmi to render to the monitor. Otherwise I see a black screen with battery and monitor icons

Sep 23, 2023 at 09:46 AM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

Thanks! Sorry, don't have a solution for the USB tendering. I did try it years ago, used EOS Utility, and it worked but using the computer it made things one level too complicated for me. Well, it was already complicated with cameras, audio recorder/mics, softboxes galore, and hot sealed off room. My only complaint with the R6 MK II is the touch screen is disabled when HDMI is used. Canon saves that feature for the R5 and R3...

Wonderful channel and your videos, playing and teaching sound great! You been at your channel a long time and got it down well. I love jazz too, albeit I'm not any good at it.

Sep 23, 2023 at 11:55 AM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

Gochugogi wrote:
Thanks! Sorry, don't have a solution for the USB tendering. I did try it years ago, used EOS Utility, and it worked but using the computer it made things one level too complicated for me. Well, it was already complicated with cameras, audio recorder/mics, softboxes galore, and hot sealed off room. My only complaint with the R6 MK II is the touch screen is disabled when HDMI is used. Canon saves that feature for the R5 and R3...

Wonderful channel and your videos, playing and teaching sound great! You been at your channel a long time and got it down well....Show more →

Thanks, i only recently started trying to get better at doing the instructional videos so I think it will continue to improve. And yeah, it's frustrating how canon disables certain features. The weirdness of turning off the HDMI stream when you are not running eos utility is a head scratcher. And if you have EOS utility running, the stream turns on even if you are not using it from their app. But if you try to access the camera as a removable drive while eos utility is running you get an error.

Sep 23, 2023 at 12:33 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

Have you tried recording as a webcam instead? Is the resolution there too low?

Sep 24, 2023 at 12:46 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Some experiences capturing Canon R6 II to OBS

johnctharp wrote:
Have you tried recording as a webcam instead? Is the resolution there too low?

no, i have not tried that. I'll give it a look but what I'm doing now works ok, I just have to run eos utility to enable hdmi pass through which is weird.

Sep 24, 2023 at 03:20 PM


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