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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · What Photo Editing Software

I have been using Capture One. There are a few things I like about it and a few I don't. I like the sessions feature that allows the RAWs and edits to be saved in a stand-alone directory that can be archived and returned to later if I want to re-edit or create JPGs with slightly different options. I don't like the planned obsolesce nature of the program in that it can't read RAWs from new cameras. I am quite sure this is a planned feature instead of a consequence of the RAW structure changing.

I like the idea of owning software, not renting it. I don't think I will go with a long term editing software that requires me to rent without an option to buy. The recent pricing/licensing changes on Capture One left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. I started with Capture One Express that was free, and eventually bought a copy to get the sessions feature.

The current version I own won't load RAWs from the A7RV. I reported a bug and the last version incorporated the fix that will now correctly identify the Tamron 28-75 G2 lens. At first it looked like they sent me a free upgrade link to the current version, but no luck

I am a bit hesitant to purchase now as I would like support for the new compact Sony's and an upcoming A1 II ideally before another purchase. So due to their pricing changes I am willing to look around.

I have been thinking of trying a DNG converter, but that seems like extra work.

What do people here tend to use??

Sep 16, 2023 at 03:01 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · What Photo Editing Software

Photoshop reads all of my files from 2006 (Leica DMR) to the present (Sony a1) and is fully compatible with the de-facto industry standard software (i.e., Photoshop).

I'm not fond of the subscription pricing model but my overall stress level is lowest using software that works.

Sep 16, 2023 at 03:10 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · What Photo Editing Software

For what it's worth, Capture One has the worst support for A1 RAWs (and it doesn't look like it will change given the response I got to the defect I raised a long time ago)...

Sep 16, 2023 at 05:19 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · What Photo Editing Software

j4nu wrote:
For what it's worth, Capture One has the worst support for A1 RAWs (and it doesn't look like it will change given the response I got to the defect I raised a long time ago)...

What kind of problems are you having with C1 and A1 raws ?

Sep 16, 2023 at 06:11 PM

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Sep 16, 2023 at 06:19 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · What Photo Editing Software

Photoshop. Almost feel like there arent many other realistic options now that we are so involved with the creative suite. It's just too convenient sending files from illustrator to photoshop to after effects etc.

Sep 16, 2023 at 06:21 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · What Photo Editing Software

ronchau wrote:
What kind of problems are you having with C1 and A1 raws ?

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tschopp wrote:
Was it the problem with high contrast yellow

Yes, it's an old and long story:
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4594540

My images don't show up anymore in the thread here.
It's not a dealbreaker, but since we're nitpicking and CO refused to respond to my bug report in any reasonable manner ("We will let you know when it's fixed."), I thought I'd mention it.

Sep 16, 2023 at 07:02 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · What Photo Editing Software

I use both Capture One and DXO Photolab. Photolab originally solely for denoising, but had some issues with Capture One support recently and now use both quite equally depending on what’s needed

Sep 16, 2023 at 07:41 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · What Photo Editing Software

I always struggled with post-processing until excellent landscape pro Michael Frye inspired me to try Lightroom which is his main software of choice, and it was so intuitive I took to it right away. Still love it after my first decade of regular use.

Sep 16, 2023 at 07:43 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · What Photo Editing Software

After trying as many non-subscription options as I could and never really being impressed, I bit the bullet last year and gave Lightroom a try. It’s honestly become one of my favorite pieces of software and changed my view on the subscription method. I say that as an audio engineer who works for multiple music software companies too.

Being able to transfer from my camera to Lightroom on the iPad (my preferred editing platform) and have everything backed up in the cloud and synced across my iPad, iPhone, and laptop makes life so much easier for me. Currently I’m in Hawaii shooting the eruption (lifetime bucket list event for me, regardless of photography) and not having to stress about losing an SD card or it failing before I get home is so much more relaxing.

Plus I just enjoy using the app, very intuitive and all the controls have nicely useable ranges. My only complaint is that they still haven’t brought the new AI noise reduction to the iPad version, I still need to wait until I get home to use that on the desktop. Boo.

All in all, way more than worth the $10/month than I expected.

Sep 16, 2023 at 07:51 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · What Photo Editing Software

Lightroom/PS stopped working with my graphics card so it is gone. Been using Topaz with good results.

Sep 16, 2023 at 08:07 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · What Photo Editing Software

Mostly Lightroom and I've been using DxO, too. I'm somewhat more fluent in Lightroom when it comes to local little fixes, or selecting "areas" for some changes. Trying topazes, too. I notice they aren't listed.

Sep 16, 2023 at 09:05 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · What Photo Editing Software

Perpetual Software licenses are dead…Not just in photo editing but it the software business in general.

If you want true support for new cameras releases, new features etc, that all costs engineering money to update etc. It’s the way of the future and it’s already here.

That being said, I love Lightroom on my iPad, phone, desktop etc. It all sync’s, works and is easy.

Sep 17, 2023 at 12:20 AM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · What Photo Editing Software

Just Photoshop. No LR.

Sep 17, 2023 at 07:55 AM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · What Photo Editing Software

Here’s why I am still on Capture One:
Image quality
Speed
Stability
Ease of use
Creative control

I have watched many other photographer friends struggle and struggle with using Lightroom. The advantages they have are great cloud DAM capabilities and they stay up-to-date with the latest cameras and lenses.

For all the things I can’t do with Capture One, I have the Topaz Suite (mainly use Denoise and Sharpen) and I like Affinity Photo.

I’m fully into a “self subscription model”. I’ll subscribe to a new update when I am well and ready. Still on Capture One Pro 20, and I’ll buy the newest version of Capture One when I buy my next Sony body in the next year or so. I am buying into both bodies and Capture One versions about every three years at this point, and it is working well.

But perhaps the most enlightening experience with Capture One comes from a friend who was on LR for 10+ years who just switched to Capture One. After getting over the initial learning hump, he is raving about all the points I made above. He is only kicking himself that he didn’t switch earlier.

Sep 17, 2023 at 08:18 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · What Photo Editing Software

Lightroom/Photoshop is my choice. It is the most powerfull and up to date image editing software available. Literally nothing I have found I can't find a way to do with this set. Runs smoothly, fast, and reliably on my system. I have been using it for over a decade now. Good support the only two times I needed it. I don't think any other option is as complete or as powerfull. The latest version is frankly incredible in advanced AI based features. The Adobe Creative Cloud is the huge market leader for good reason.

I love the subscription model. The photographer bundle is actually very affordable in the context of the other costs involved in photography. Frequent updates with valuable new features. I wish cameras had such a model. We would get all the new features that are software related and only need to upgrade when a new hardware based feature is attractive to us. It would be just like our computer systems. We would be up to date in features and only buy a new camera when we want new hardware. It would end up being much better for us overall.

I suppose that if all you want is the organization of files, and the RAW processing of Lightroom, and not the image editing power of Photoshop, then there are other offerings that are worth considering. But if you also want the image editing power of Photoshop, there is nothing in that league of power.

Sep 17, 2023 at 08:54 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · What Photo Editing Software

For me...

Lightroom/Photoshop is the most powerful and by far the best-supported software of the ones listed in the poll. The workflow is intuitive. Huge amounts of support and free courses on YouTube and elsewhere. I like the subscription model and feel that the pricing is reasonable.

Capture One is also powerful, and a lot of users here get great results with Capture One. But the workflow is alien to me - makes no sense at all - and despite many tries, I never meshed with Capture One.

Way back, DxO was my favorite, but IMO it lags behind the other two in terms of creative potential and support.

Sep 17, 2023 at 09:19 AM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · What Photo Editing Software

To a large extent the need for camera and lens support updates is a self created problem by the software makers. Does anyone think the RAW file from an a6700 is any different than the raw file of a a7rv in crop mode, other than the camera EXIF data? Or the C7II and C7R files are different than the a7iv or a7rv files? At least they are not breaking JPG support based on EXIF data. When a new format is introduced like lossless compressed, then yes a software update is truly needed.

The subscription model disincentives competition. Essentially you have agreed to fund future development, but there is no agreement on what they should work on, or that they need to work on anything that is actually new. If you decide to stop funding the development then you lose all rights to the work you funded.

I understand how the model is great for the business, it stabilizes revenue and makes it highly predictable. This creates a stable workforce that is properly sized and people can focus on making software. Long term if they slack off or can't stay relevant they will lose market share, so there is a small element of competition still in place.

Sep 17, 2023 at 09:21 AM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · What Photo Editing Software

Newenglandrocks wrote:
Here’s why I am still on Capture One:
Image quality
Speed
Stability
Ease of use
Creative control

Capture One was remarkably unstable with my M1 Studio computer. Nail, meet coffin.

Sep 17, 2023 at 09:30 AM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · What Photo Editing Software

tschopp wrote:
To a large extent the need for camera and lens support updates is a self created problem by the software makers. Does anyone think the RAW file from an a6700 is any different than the raw file of a a7rv in crop mode, other than the camera EXIF data? Or the C7II and C7R files are different than the a7iv or a7rv files? At least they are not breaking JPG support based on EXIF data. When a new format is introduced like lossless compressed, then yes a software update is truly needed.

The subscription model disincentives competition. Essentially you have agreed...Show more →

The amazing number, quality, usefulness, and technical advancement of the Adobe Creative Cloud suite of tools demonstrates that the subscription model doesn't inhibit competition and advancement. In fact, it appears to enable innovation at a rate the perpetual license model never achieved. The competition seems to be falling further and further behind in these features.

If you look at Adobe's latest financial reports it is apparent that the subscription model is a powerful financial multiplier for the company. Thus far they have leveraged this to return great value for the user base, the employees, and the shareholder. Good corporate governance demonstrated. I wish public governance would perform even close to this.

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