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Nikon Z 180-600 came today!

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Nikon Z 180-600 came today!


Just got my lens. Serial number is 200312XX. Will test over the weekend. This is a little higher serial than has been reported so I'm pretty sure a new batch has arrived. I ordered June 22nd 9:00 am non NPS. I think this lens won't take long to become available. First couple of shots makes me think the Sony 200-600 with better MFD.


Sep 14, 2023 at 09:43 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Nikon Z 180-600 came today!


Congratulations! But we want pictures!!! Lots of pictures!


Sep 14, 2023 at 10:53 PM
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rwingsfan wrote:
Just got my lens. Serial number is 200312XX. Will test over the weekend. This is a little higher serial than has been reported so I'm pretty sure a new batch has arrived. I ordered June 22nd 9:00 am non NPS. I think this lens won't take long to become available. First couple of shots makes me think the Sony 200-600 with better MFD.


Are you saying that it's like a Sony 200-600, but with a better MFD, or are you saying the Sony has a better MFD (because it definitely doesn't). I think you mean the former, but just clarifying.



Sep 14, 2023 at 11:05 PM
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Jman13 wrote:
Are you saying that it's like a Sony 200-600, but with a better MFD, or are you saying the Sony has a better MFD (because it definitely doesn't). I think you mean the former, but just clarifying.


Yes it very much reminds me of the Sony, but has much better MFD. First impressions make me think they're equally sharp. I'll know more over the next few days.



Sep 15, 2023 at 08:20 AM
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Way less focus breathing at close distances is a huge plus for the Nikon over the Sony.


Sep 15, 2023 at 08:22 AM
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arbitrage wrote:
Way less focus breathing at close distances is a huge plus for the Nikon over the Sony.


Roger that, a big + in my book. From all reports, it focuses pretty quickly and accurately (for not being an "S") which would also be highly favorable. By way of comparison, in my experience the AF speed and accuracy for the Canon 100-500 was extremely good whereas the Sony 200-600's AF was too slow on anything other than the a9(ii) or a1.



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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Nikon Z 180-600 came today!


Congrats on the new lens, rwingsfan, I look forward to your review as I'm considering adding a Z8 to my stable...about time I got on the PDAF bandwagon!


Sep 17, 2023 at 06:22 PM
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Well so far I have been impressed. I have not really had a chance to really put it through it's paces but so far I have a couple of conclusions. I feel it is very comparable to the Sony 200-600 which I'm sure was the point. My copy seems very sharp even wide open as long as I do my part on focus position. I don't want to have to stop down and at this point I don't feel that need. Speed wise I call this and the Sony a draw. If there was one thing I would improve on that would be it. Prefocus helps a lot. There is very little to complain about at this price point. My 300 F2.8 is faster, but duh it should be.


Sep 17, 2023 at 09:51 PM
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Edit: I accidentally posted this in the wrong thread. Sorry.


Sep 18, 2023 at 06:01 AM
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arbitrage wrote:
Way less focus breathing at close distances is a huge plus for the Nikon over the Sony.


Thanks for your interesting comment. I would not have known. And I feel you are unbiased.




Sep 18, 2023 at 09:28 AM
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bs kite wrote:
Thanks for your interesting comment. I would not have known. And I feel you are unbiased.



You can actually look this up if you're interested - it's part of the lens specification that most manufacturers publish. Look for something like "maximum reproduction ratio" in the list of lens specifications. It doesn't tell the whole story, but the higher the number, the greater the magnification. The Nikon 180-600 is 0.25X, the Sony 200-600 is 0.2X, so the same image taken with the Nikon lens will appear 25% larger when each lens is set up to produce it's highest possible magnification.

I don't think anyone has published a chart yet that shows the "effective" focal length at any given subject distance, but arbitrage is correct that the Sony 200-600 changes it's magnification quite significantly as you get closer to MFD. A 600mm lens is only guaranteed to be ~600mm at infinity, but the Nikon 180-600 seems to stay very close to 600mm at all focus distances. Prime lenses generally have very little change but zoom lenses are usually the worst offenders. Nikon's F mount 70-200 VR II was notoriously bad for this, as it had a magnification change resulting in a loss of about 30% of it's effective focal length at MFD. The Sony drops down to around 530mm at close distances which is quite noticeable in use.

Focus breathing is not the correct term for what is being described here but I don't think that's worth getting into as everyone still knows what the point is.



Sep 18, 2023 at 04:04 PM
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CanadaMark wrote:
You can actually look this up if you're interested - it's part of the lens specification that most manufacturers publish. Look for something like "maximum reproduction ratio" in the list of lens specifications. It doesn't tell the whole story, but the higher the number, the greater the magnification. The Nikon 180-600 is 0.25X, the Sony 200-600 is 0.2X, so the same image taken with the Nikon lens will appear 25% larger when each lens is set up to produce it's highest possible magnification.

I don't think anyone has published a chart yet that shows the "effective" focal length at any given
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That is interesting Mark. Thank you for explaining that.




Sep 18, 2023 at 05:08 PM







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