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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Want to start to print

Looking to start to print my picture myself. Looking at various sizes but not usually larger than 10x12.

I want something that can do good quality and from my reading that would use pigment ink.

Any good inform source? Suggestion for a good printer?

Thanks

Sep 07, 2023 at 07:48 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Want to start to print

For making prints of the size you mention I'd start looking at the Epson P700 and Canon PRO-300. I have not used either of these, but after a couple decades of printing that's where I'd start. These two manufacturers offer the best photo printers you'll find, and these two models have everything it takes to make great looking prints. Each has it's good and bad points, but you and your budget need to sort that out on your own.

Maybe someone who has experience with these specific printers can comment.

Good luck.

Sep 08, 2023 at 06:56 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Want to start to print

Several of my Epsons have died from clogs. Unless you are printing frequently, you will get clogs. I finally gave up and now use a Canon ip 8720

Sep 08, 2023 at 07:08 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Want to start to print

The Epson P700 and Canon PRO-300 are both great choices.

The range of papers available to you is huge. Red River makes good papers that cost a bit less, and they provide handy sample packs of different kinds so you can figure out what you like. They also provide good quality ICC profiles for both printers.

Many people become very frustrated because their prints don't match what they see on their screens. This is a calibration issue (usually), and unfortunately calibration requires more equipment. Until you figure out that side of things, don't get too frustrated; a good place to begin is turning down the brightness on your monitor because it's probably too high.

Have fun.

Sep 08, 2023 at 07:10 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Want to start to print

Keith @ Northlight Images has a wealth of information about printing,, from beginner to advanced, start here;

https://www.northlight-images.co.uk/photography-articles-and-reviews/printing-paper-reviews-articles/

Sep 09, 2023 at 04:51 AM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Want to start to print

Does this mean that before I get into printing I should invest is a high end monitor? Should I get the proper calibration tool for screen?

rdeloe wrote:
The Epson P700 and Canon PRO-300 are both great choices.

The range of papers available to you is huge. Red River makes good papers that cost a bit less, and they provide handy sample packs of different kinds so you can figure out what you like. They also provide good quality ICC profiles for both printers.

Many people become very frustrated because their prints don't match what they see on their screens. This is a calibration issue (usually), and unfortunately calibration requires more equipment. Until you figure out that side of things, don't get too frustrated; a good place to...Show more →

Sep 09, 2023 at 05:24 AM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Want to start to print

A good monitor that you can calibrate is never a waste of money even if you don't print. You don't have to spend a fortune. BenQ makes some reasonably priced ones that many people like.

If you buy a new one, it should come properly calibrated from the factory. However, monitors do drift out of calibration over time. A calibration tool is a good investment. There's a learning curve, but there are also lots of resources out there.

Some people need the print to be as close to exactly what they see on the monitor is possible. If you are willing to accept the print as its own thing, and be happy with something that comes out your printer that still looks great but isn't exactly like what is on the monitor, then this is all a lot easier.

Think of it this way, if you make a print and frame it and put it on your wall and enjoy it every day, does it matter that it doesn't look exactly like the version on your monitor? If it does matter, then you need to spend a lot more money. If it doesn't matter, then start printing and have fun.

Sep 09, 2023 at 06:47 AM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Want to start to print

My personal opinion is that one spends time in post processing to adjust colours and contrast to make the image what you like…then to print it without a proper calibration process just undermines all the work during post processing. I’d highly suggest to learn how to calibrate your system and do it religiously if you want to get good consistent results.

Sep 09, 2023 at 07:27 AM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Want to start to print

Latouf wrote:
Looking to start to print my picture myself. Looking at various sizes but not usually larger than 10x12.

I want something that can do good quality and from my reading that would use pigment ink.

Any good inform source? Suggestion for a good printer?

Thanks

I wouldn't discount dye based printers. Some like the canon pro-100 and pro-200 can produce excellent prints, perhaps even better than pigment especially with glossy papers. They can also get very good light fade results when used certain canon papers. They are significantly less expensive than pigment printers.

Sep 09, 2023 at 09:18 AM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Want to start to print

It's also important to note that they type of paper you print on can significantly change from what you see on your screen. Matte vs luster vs glossy vs metallic, etc.

The Red River sample packs are outstanding. And their service and quality is top notch too.

FWIW I Have an Epson P800 and have used it for 3 years without ever having a problem. Been periods of 4 to 6 months without printing too.

Sep 23, 2023 at 06:55 PM

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gunmetal wrote:
It's also important to note that they type of paper you print on can significantly change from what you see on your screen. Matte vs luster vs glossy vs metallic, etc.

The Red River sample packs are outstanding. And their service and quality is top notch too.

FWIW I Have an Epson P800 and have used it for 3 years without ever having a problem. Been periods of 4 to 6 months without printing too.
I hope your luck holds. My Epsons stopped after as little as 2 weeks, requiring multiple cleaning cycles. Eventually they reached a point where cleaning did not work and actually made things worse.

Sep 23, 2023 at 07:44 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Want to start to print

I have two Epson 3880 and they just hum along without issues. I keep one on MK and the other on PK so I don’t need to waste ink or time switching.

Sep 23, 2023 at 07:53 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Want to start to print

runamuck wrote:
Several of my Epsons have died from clogs. Unless you are printing frequently, you will get clogs. I finally gave up and now use a Canon ip 8720

No longer true! My Epson 3800, yes, it was a clog monster. However my P900 can literally go months between nozzle checks and they come out perfect.....
Jo

Sep 29, 2023 at 04:31 PM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Want to start to print

Jo Dilbeck wrote:
No longer true! My Epson 3800, yes, it was a clog monster. However my P900 can literally go months between nozzle checks and they come out perfect.....
Jo

I moved on to Canon 8720. TBH, I cannot really see any difference.

Sep 30, 2023 at 07:39 PM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Want to start to print

How large do you want your prints to be maximum? A4?A3?A2?...etc.
What budget do you have? Later on: ink (new cartridges every now and then), and paper. All costs add up.
Invest in color management (study/monitor/calibration/etc.).
Certainly a learning curve, but worth it if you're serious about printing high quality images that look like you plan them to look.

Oct 03, 2023 at 06:52 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Want to start to print

dhlewis wrote:
Keith @ Northlight Images has a wealth of information about printing,, from beginner to advanced, start here;

https://www.northlight-images.co.uk/photography-articles-and-reviews/printing-paper-reviews-articles/

Agree... Keith and his site is a wealth of info, and sometimes, way more info and tech bits than anyone needs to know.

Get calibrated monitor tool, first. Then the printer. Also, don't discount the Canon 200 instead of the 300 mentioned. The 300 can give you longer life prints, if you want that, due to its ink type, but the 200 can be a very good "first printer"...

Oct 08, 2023 at 10:09 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Want to start to print

sbay wrote:
I wouldn't discount dye based printers. Some like the canon pro-100 and pro-200 can produce excellent prints, perhaps even better than pigment especially with glossy papers. They can also get very good light fade results when used certain canon papers. They are significantly less expensive than pigment printers.

Agree... probably not easy to find a new 100, but the 200 can be. On glossy papers, it does a great job. Matte B&W not as good as the 300... so if you want B&W, and matte (or not glossy) then maybe the 300 is the better option to start with.

Oct 08, 2023 at 10:13 AM


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