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Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

A couple is getting married, and the future groom asked me about what kind of camera to buy so he can get some better photo on their honeymoon. They have phones but pointed out that their phone photos are not as good as others they seen taken with regular cameras. I was shown a few samples, but don't know how skilled the friends were with photography or what was being used ... I handed to him my EOS R with a Tamron 24-70mm 2.8 and said "how's that feel for weight". I could see from expression and reply that it was way too much weight.

About 4 of us at the same church shoot Canon bodies so it could be handy if the couple got a Canon so we would understand the platform better to help with advice or loan lenses from time to time. One thing that came to mind later, was maybe a Canon RP with a kit non-L 24-105mm and maybe one 50mm prime for a cheap fast lens to keep on hand. And they could add cell phone photos from both their phones also.

Thoughts for a lightweight Canon travel body and lens. I forget - but it may be Hawaii they are going to for the honeymoon.

Thanks.

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Aug 13, 2023 at 04:16 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

For people who are not necessarily into photography as an activity, or thought process, I have a hard time justifying recommending anything other than a good superzoom. No lenses to swap, great zoom range, decent image quality, and they're geared towards more novice/low-touch shooters.

On my honeymoon, you bet your tushy I'm bringing a good camera, but I enjoy the photographic process and my SO is accepting enough of it that I won't worry too much about detracting from the experience. It's part of the fun of traveling for me and she knows that. I'll just make sure to keep it as simple as possible, probably the 24-105L and maybe 14-35L if I have room and can justify it.

I'd tell them to enjoy the experience, live in the moment, and use this simple but good superzoom (which ever one they find and like) to capture the memories. They don't need to resemble professional photos with razor sharpness or shallow DoF to be good photos, or to capture your memories. "Horses for courses" etc. The best option is very likely not even a Canon camera in this case. Sony and Nikon superzooms seem quite good for the money, but I have no hands-on experience so I can't recommend any specific models.

Aug 13, 2023 at 04:34 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

Better start learning the basics of photography… gear would come later. If they do not know how to use a camera properly the iphone,AI, and filters will do better than his canera in auto.

Cheers!

Aug 13, 2023 at 04:37 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

mdvaden wrote:
A couple is getting married, and the future groom asked me about what kind of camera to buy so he can get some better photo on their honeymoon, and even afterward. They have phones but pointed out that their phone photos are not as good as others they seen taken with regular cameras. I was shown a few samples, but don't know how skilled their other friends were with photography or what was being used.

I did him either my EOS R with a Tamron 24-70mm 2.8 and said "how's that feel for weight". I could see from expression and reply...Show more →

I hope not Maui so soon. A Hawaiian honermoon is place where a smartphone is probably the best bet, then they can buy a camera later.

EBH

Aug 13, 2023 at 04:52 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

Something simple and easy to carry around (elph 360 or sx740).

Aug 13, 2023 at 06:14 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

tell them to use their phone and enjoy their vacation.

Aug 13, 2023 at 06:30 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

3catsinky wrote:
tell them to use their phone and enjoy their vacation.

+1

This is exactly what I thought first.

About 7-8 years ago a friend asked me what camera to buy when she was having her second child because she wanted better photos of the kids. She ended up getting an APS-C DSLR with 18-55 style kit lens. I have never seen her use it.

In the time since, phones and the software driving the cameras in phones, have become a lot more powerful. IMO a 'real' camera has advantages if the photographer is willing to spend some time working on the photos afterwards. Most people don't want to do this, or the learning curve is too great.

For your friends, they might benefit from a camera with a tele lens where phones are poor performers. From Canon's mirrorless, perhaps the R10 & 18-150 kit. If that's a bit too $$, then the R100 with 18-45 & 55-210 kit. Otherwise, something like the Sony RX10 or a P&S with a tele zoom range.

Aug 13, 2023 at 07:17 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

Ask them what their phones lack. To me the biggest downsides to a phone (well, at least for my phone) are lack of a long optical zoom and a lack of a real flash. Even a pretty basic P&S with an optical zoom provide that capability to pair with their phones.

Aug 13, 2023 at 08:22 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

A funny question gets funny answers.

This is a typical case of where the people referred to would benefit more from learning how to take photos than what gear to get that they don’t know how to use.

Aug 13, 2023 at 08:44 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

Idk that they're going to get better photos right off buying a better camera, really. It's usually not like that

But phones have their downsides, teles seem to be a problem, and the camera could be great, if they're interested in learning. RP, R8, perhaps a dslr even. They did ask for a camera recommendation, after all

Aug 14, 2023 at 12:09 AM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

I would suggest they use their phones. Its a bit late to start on "real" photography. Of course if the honeymoon is not for 6 months then they have time to learn. They really just need to learn the basics of composition and what a good phone can and cannot do.

Aug 14, 2023 at 09:17 AM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

They should get either one of the best "Point & shoots", or if a more sophisticated, an IL entry level body that has Auto scene modes, & a kit lens.

For example the EOS R8 has A+ Fully Automatic Shooting (Scene Intelligent Auto) mode, pair it with an RF 24-105, and it should work, even for a "beginner".

Aug 14, 2023 at 09:18 AM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

I'd suggest a phone or a Fuji X100V.

The X100V is the camera I suggest to everyone. It's just the most fun piece of equipment I've ever used, and the pictures are all stunning.

It's also a fixed focal length, so no need to worry about having the "right lens". Just zoom with your feet.

If they think an EOS R and 24-70 isn't lightweight, they'll never end up using the camera if they do buy it.

They could also go with something like a Coolpix P1000 superzoom, although that's usually better for more wildlife or sports oriented folks. A lot of people don't "need" 3000mm

Aug 14, 2023 at 10:04 AM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

nmerc_photos wrote:
Just zoom with your feet.

Except for the many, many times when it is either inconvenient or impossible to zoom with your feet.

Aug 14, 2023 at 11:29 AM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

I have the Canon EOS SL2 that is very lightweight. Of course it's not full frame and it is a little older (I think the SL3 is the newer model), but my sister thinks all my camera gear is too heavy except that camera. Could put on a 24mm/28mm/40mm pancake lens and it's super small and lightweight, and still expandable if they want more. Or go with the 18-55mm kit lens that isn't very sharp but still will help them see if they're happy with it. And that lens is light too.

Aug 14, 2023 at 11:40 AM

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I really don't get the appeal of fixed lens cameras like the X100 series or the Sony ff version. I wouldn't want to only have 35mm. Idk that I'd recommend it for a beginner, but SL2 + 16-400mm ff equivalent zooms only about $800 right now (keh.) Plus the Fuji is just hard to find, and selling above MSRP. Hey it's cool maybe they'd like it for that reason. You're looking at getting an older ff DSLR (5D3?) + 16-35/4. + 70-200/4 L for the cost of 35mm fixed cameras ($2k)

Phones get on my nerves. Yes I've used them, yes I understand the benefits. I like 85mm+ ff equivalent for people photography, for one thing, that tends to be a problem. But maybe they'll get a camera, realize that the photos aren't really immediately better just looking at the lcd , they don't want to carry it, which get on my nerves and I'd roll my eyes and think less of them. Sorry, it's true

P&S's I'm not really interested in less sensor than m4/3. M4/3 is good you start to see issues with high iso though. I often don't like to move it changes perspective, as far as zooming with your feet

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Aug 14, 2023 at 11:53 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

I'm thinking a 1DXIII and EF 200-400 for the groom, and a lighter weight R3 with RF 100-300 for the bride. That should do.

Aug 14, 2023 at 11:53 AM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

Yes. Those big heavy DSLR's like the SL2 I mentioned that's one of the lighter cameras out there

Aug 14, 2023 at 12:45 PM

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AmbientMike wrote:
I really don't get the appeal of fixed lens cameras like the X100 series or the Sony ff version. I wouldn't want to only have 35mm. Idk that I'd recommend it for a beginner, but SL2 + 16-400mm ff equivalent zooms only about $800 right now (keh.) Plus the Fuji is just hard to find, and selling above MSRP. Hey it's cool maybe they'd like it for that reason. You're looking at getting an older ff DSLR (5D3?) + 16-35/4. + 70-200/4 L for the cost of 35mm fixed cameras ($2k)

Phones get on my nerves. Yes I've used them, yes...Show more →

People like the fixed length cameras because it simplifies the process. No need to worry about how to pack 30lbs of lenses. Lightweight, efficient, and fun. With much better images than a phone could produce. While still maintaining the tactile feel and being able to adjust the exposure triangle with ease.

Because it's so small, it also doesn't attract attention. And people often think of the Fuji as a toy camera, not realizing its value. Even if you take something "small" like an R6 and pancake 12mm, lots of people recognize it, it's bigger, and you'll get more looks for sure.

Especially true in certain events (this is off topic of honeymoons probably), but I've had numerous concerts, weddings, sporting events, where they would not let "professional" gear in - which meant anything without a fixed lens. Friends would be unable to bring in their Canon/Sony/Nikon setups, but the Fuji got in every time.

I don't know about the Sony ones, but the Fuji ones also have built in film sims which give it more of an "artistic look".

They're definitely not for everyone, but my first ever camera was a Fuji X100V, and if I was forced to sell every piece of camera gear except one lens/body combo, I'd choose the X100V hands down every time.

And that's having owned every single R body + RF lens Canon has made (except the 100-300 which came out after I swapped) as well as now owning the majority of the Nikon Z lineup.

Aug 14, 2023 at 03:16 PM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Couple's honeymoon -- what camera should we recommend they buy?

Seems like a Ricoh GRiii would fit the bill as something discrete, pocketable, and better than a phone (somewhat). Same basic idea of pointing and shooting as a phone with minimal learning needed beforehand.

In NO WORLD would I suggest an X100V to someone with minimal photographic experience as they are leaving for a trip (moot point since you simply can't buy one anymore). It is a camera that requires a lot of attention to detail and is great for people who know what they're doing. It's like driving a classic stick shift car. You don't want to learn to drive stick on your honeymoon. As a first camera when you have time to learn, sure.

I took a Canon XTi on my honeymoon 15 years ago and barely ever pulled it out. I wish something like the Ricohs existed back then.

Anything with interchangeable lenses is out of the question. If they did take a MILC, I'd limit it to one zoom, but any decent zoom will be completely oversized.

Aug 14, 2023 at 03:21 PM

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