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Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review

  
 
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Desmolicious wrote:
The Elmarit has better flare resistance and vignettes less. But if it was my money... I couldn't justify getting one either over the CV lens.


Both the CV 28/2 Ultron II and the 28/2.8 Color Skopar lenses are excellent flare resistance. With the latter, ghosting is hardly noticeable, but in a few situations, I observe a slight veiling effect. This is a rare occurrence, even when the sun is in the frame. The Leica Elmarit performed slightly better in just one backlit scene, but I couldn't replicate it easily. Vignetting is a notable issue with the Color-Skopar lens, but when using the Summaron 6-bit code, it becomes much less noticeable and approaches the characteristic of the Leica lens.



Sep 10, 2023 at 11:00 AM
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p.13 #2 · p.13 #2 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review


I am enjoying the compactness of this lens - though the vignetting is getting somewhat irritating. I will have to try the Summaron code on my M11 and see if that helps.

I've also started to wonder if a Summicron (or dare I say, a Summilux) would make for a better 28mm for me.



Sep 10, 2023 at 01:20 PM
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p.13 #3 · p.13 #3 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review


TheEyesHaveIt wrote:
I am enjoying the compactness of this lens - though the vignetting is getting somewhat irritating. I will have to try the Summaron code on my M11 and see if that helps.

I've also started to wonder if a Summicron (or dare I say, a Summilux) would make for a better 28mm for me.


Definitely try the Summaron code. It's a noticeable change for the better.



Sep 10, 2023 at 01:33 PM
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p.13 #4 · p.13 #4 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review


The vignette isn’t as bad as I thought it would be and I can easily fix in LR if needed, but everyone has their own preferences. I love the compactness and image quality.

What I want to know is Fred, how did you paint the white codes so precisely on your lens? Very nice work 👍🏻



Sep 10, 2023 at 02:08 PM
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p.13 #5 · p.13 #5 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review


BruceRH wrote:
The vignette isn’t as bad as I thought it would be and I can easily fix in LR if needed, but everyone has their own preferences. I love the compactness and image quality.

What I want to know is Fred, how did you paint the white codes so precisely on your lens? Very nice work 👍🏻


I just used a super thin white pen and draw it with steady hands and some patience.



Sep 11, 2023 at 12:00 PM
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p.13 #6 · p.13 #6 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review


By the way, the Voigtlander 28/2.8 Color-Skopar Type I lens doesn't fit the TAP2 adapter (EA9). You need to unscrew the infinity lock to make it fit and rotate properly inside the adapter. On the other hand, the Type II lens, which doesn't have the infinity lock, works perfectly with no problems.


Sep 11, 2023 at 12:01 PM
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p.13 #7 · p.13 #7 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review


Hezzup, cameraquest has a used Type 1 and Type 2 for $550.


Sep 11, 2023 at 12:03 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I just used a super thin white pen and draw it with steady hands and some patience.


Thanks, so no coffee then 😂 What brand pen?



Sep 11, 2023 at 12:23 PM
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BruceRH wrote:
Thanks, so no coffee then 😂 What brand pen?


Any fine tip 'oil base' white pen should work well. You need a 6-bit code template to mark where the paint should go first.

I bought mine from Michael's and the brand is "Craft Smart".
For lenses that require black paint code, it's more tricky as the sensor is sensitive. I use the extra fine "UNI" Super Ink Master permanent marker which is also oil base.



Sep 11, 2023 at 02:14 PM
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Desmolicious wrote:
The Elmarit has better flare resistance and vignettes less. But if it was my money... I couldn't justify getting one either over the CV lens.


I've been wanting a 28 Cron for my M bodies, but since I've got the Q2 ... hard to "double up" on 28 for that kind of $$.

Adding this little guy to my M bag ... hmmm, could add this without feeling the need to ditch the Q2. Something to consider.



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For anyone that used both v1s, (the 28mm and the 40mm), can you please let me know if focus throw is the same?

I found the focus throw on the 40mm super smooth but very long, so for street is to slow.

Also, how does the skopar compare to the summaron at similar apertures? I have now a 28mm cron and the 28mm ttartisans.

And was thinking of getting the 28mm summaron as well, i bought the tt to test how i would get alone with such kind of lens.

But summaron is 2k usd used and the skopar is as small, has faster aperture, and way cheaper. Still i seen that the summaron has some kind of look not achievable with the other 28mm.




Sep 12, 2023 at 01:58 AM
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p.13 #12 · p.13 #12 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
By the way, the Voigtlander 28/2.8 Color-Skopar Type I lens doesn't fit the TAP2 adapter (EA9). You need to unscrew the infinity lock to make it fit and rotate properly inside the adapter. On the other hand, the Type II lens, which doesn't have the infinity lock, works perfectly with no problems.


Good to know! makes decision easier for when i pick one up in the future lol. Thanks Fred!



Sep 12, 2023 at 10:39 AM
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Desmolicious wrote:
Hezzup, cameraquest has a used Type 1 and Type 2 for $550.


someone got that type 2 quick. only type 1 avail now lol



Sep 12, 2023 at 10:41 AM
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someone got that type 2 quick. only type 1 avail now lol


I would have taken the type 1 if it was black.



Sep 12, 2023 at 11:08 AM
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p.13 #15 · p.13 #15 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review


Malabito wrote:
For anyone that used both v1s, (the 28mm and the 40mm), can you please let me know if focus throw is the same?

I found the focus throw on the 40mm super smooth but very long, so for street is to slow.

Also, how does the skopar compare to the summaron at similar apertures? I have now a 28mm cron and the 28mm ttartisans.

And was thinking of getting the 28mm summaron as well, i bought the tt to test how i would get alone with such kind of lens.

But summaron is 2k usd used and the skopar is as small, has
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Both lenses have the same focus throw, which is 180 degrees. This design offers great focus precison, but as you pointed out, it's not a lens that focuses quickly.



Sep 12, 2023 at 11:24 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Both lenses have the same focus throw, which is 180 degrees. This design offers great focus precison, but as you pointed out, it's not a lens that focuses quickly.


Thanks for the review amd the response!

Have you had a chance to compare it to the summaron? Ofncourse from f5.6 on



Sep 13, 2023 at 12:00 AM
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p.13 #17 · p.13 #17 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review


Malabito wrote:
Thanks for the review amd the response!

Have you had a chance to compare it to the summaron? Ofncourse from f5.6 on



I had the new version Summaron 28/5.6 for sometime and now have the skopar 28/2.8. I never compared the lenses but I would say that the Summaron is less of a character lens than some people claim. I am not alone in this conclusion. The Summaron is actually quite well behaved. The older version maybe more character but I think that it is mainly down to age of the lens. I am not trying to say the Summaron is bad, actually I am saying it is better than stated. I would also say that generally character is harder with wider lenses. The ‘character’ needs to be stronger to show and then seems to shows bad lens - imagine the noctilux as a 28…Of course this all down to the users tastes and requirements.
The skopar is not a character lens but it is very nice with its own signature.



Sep 13, 2023 at 04:31 AM
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p.13 #18 · p.13 #18 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review


tri_fin wrote:
I had the new version Summaron 28/5.6 for sometime and now have the skopar 28/2.8. I never compared the lenses but I would say that the Summaron is less of a character lens than some people claim. I am not alone in this conclusion. The Summaron is actually quite well behaved. The older version maybe more character but I think that it is mainly down to age of the lens. I am not trying to say the Summaron is bad, actually I am saying it is better than stated. I would also say that generally character is harder with wider
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I think the Summaron f5.6 doesn't open up enough to really show "character". It is typical of the designs Leitz was making back then - everything seems to be well-behaved, sharp, low-ish in contrast.

The new CV 28 looks to be similar to the 40 heliar - not a strong "character" lens, but clean, sharp images, with modern contrast levels. Gets the job done at a reasonable cost and a nice compact size. Pretty much Cosina's mantra.



Sep 13, 2023 at 08:03 AM
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p.13 #19 · p.13 #19 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review


Ignoring the level of blur, the most distinctive 28mm lenses I've had experience with are the MS Optics Apoqualia 28/2 and the Zeiss 28/2.8 Biogon (part of the ZM line). When I say "unique," I mean that these lenses create distinct characteristics in photos. For example, they produce specular highlights with noticeable outlining, which adds structure to the images. Additionally, the Apoqualia is uncorrected for spherical aberration and has extreme field curvature, which is very noticeable in the photos. Both the Biogon and MS Optics lenses are sharp in the center but become softer towards the edges.

The Color-Skopar lens also has outlining in the bokeh and high optical vignetting, which contribute to its unique character. However, outlining sets it apart from the larger CV 28/2 Ultron II which has a smoother focus transition zone. It's important to note that both the 28mm Color-Skopar and the Ultron II are high-contrast and high-resolution lenses, delivering excellent image quality from the center to the very edges.

On the other hand, the Leica 28/2.8 Elmarit lens offers a smoother rendering style similar to the 28/2 Ultron II, but with lower optical vignetting when both wide open and it's one f-stop slower. I haven't had the opportunity to try the 28/5.6 Summaron lens yet.



Sep 13, 2023 at 09:53 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote.. I haven't had the opportunity to try the 28/5.6 Summaron lens yet.

Someone send him a Summaron, STAT!




Sep 13, 2023 at 11:12 AM
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