Home · Register · Join Upload & Sell

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
Username  

  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Leica & Alternative Gear | Join Upload & Sell

1       2       3      
4
       5       6       end
  

MS-Optics lenses Image Thread

  
 
Sonnar-7
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #1 · p.4 #1 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Fred Miranda wrote:
The Petz lens is a bit longer at 57mm, and it's a variation of the famous Petzval design, and this is noticeable in its performance and rendering. It gives a similar look to the Panchro lens when compared side by side, but it's incredibly compact and lightweight. The Panchro is crisper at the edges, although this might not be a big concern for you when using these lenses.

I have the historic version, and I got it in Tokyo. The vario is neat because it allows you to change the coma "look," but in my opinion, the lens has a
...Show more

Thank you for these informations! Itís quite useful, it confirms what I thought I saw. I didnít think I cared for the Petzval until a few sample photos taken with it began to pop up here from you and Juha, It seems to have indeed a beautiful character.



Aug 30, 2023 at 03:05 PM
Fred Miranda
Offline
Admin
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #2 · p.4 #2 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


This morning, I took these photos under harsh light while testing out the autofocus adapter. I used the MS 57/2 Petz lens on the A9 camera with the TechArt EA9 AF. It performed really well, achieving focus in tracking mode all the way to the corners of the frame.

The Petz is sharp at the center just like the Leica 50/2 Rigid and has low color error. (lateral and axial)




  ILCE-9    MS Optics 57mm f/2 PETZ lens    57mm    f/2.0    1/3200s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-9    MS Optics 57mm f/2 PETZ lens    57mm    f/2.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-9    MS Optics 57mm f/2 PETZ lens    57mm    f/2.0    1/640s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-9    MS Optics 57mm f/2 PETZ lens    57mm    f/2.0    1/1000s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-9    MS Optics 57mm f/2 PETZ lens    57mm    f/2.0    1/1600s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-9    MS Optics 57mm f/2 PETZ lens    57mm    f/2.0    1/12800s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  




Aug 30, 2023 at 03:14 PM
Fred Miranda
Offline
Admin
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #3 · p.4 #3 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Some images from the M10-R + MS Optics 36/1.3 Apollon wide open:




  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/1.4    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/1.4    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/1.4    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/1.4    1/1000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/1.4    1/3000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/2.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/1.4    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/2.8    1/60s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Sep 30, 2023 at 04:38 PM
Desmolicious
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #4 · p.4 #4 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


The Ďflawsí of this lens really makes the pics more interesting.
Reminds me of my Lomo Minitar 32 in that respect, and why I like using that lens.



Oct 01, 2023 at 11:00 AM
Fred Miranda
Offline
Admin
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #5 · p.4 #5 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Desmolicious wrote:
The Ďflawsí of this lens really makes the pics more interesting.
Reminds me of my Lomo Minitar 32 in that respect, and why I like using that lens.


I'm much happier with this lens after I was able to fine-tune its focus to match my RF camera. When I tested it with sample photos, it was consistently focusing in front of the intended subject. Now, after making adjustments, it's performing as expected. The lens also produces a flare effect similar to that of the 35mm f/1.4 lux lens.




Using Cobalt Ekta100 profile

  LEICA M10-R    MS Optics 36mm f/1.3 Apollon lens    36mm    f/2.8    1/4000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Oct 01, 2023 at 03:58 PM
Desmolicious
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #6 · p.4 #6 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Today I really wanted to go out w a film M and the Minitar 32. The light was perfect for that - just rained and now everything was bright and super saturated.
Instead I took my F6 and Sigma Art 50 because I hadn't used it in a while. I gotta say - the pics better be good because it was a miserable experience! Just so big n heavy. Oh and the F6 jammed rewinding 1 roll of film. Never happened before, really bizarre. I had to clear it by opening the back, exposing a few shots (thankfully at the beginning of the strip).
Lesson learned - take the Leica w the funky lens if that is what you really want to use! I woulda had a blast w that MS Optics 36 you used in the pics above.



Oct 01, 2023 at 07:08 PM
Fred Miranda
Offline
Admin
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #7 · p.4 #7 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Desmolicious wrote:
Today I really wanted to go out w a film M and the Minitar 32. The light was perfect for that - just rained and now everything was bright and super saturated.
Instead I took my F6 and Sigma Art 50 because I hadn't used it in a while. I gotta say - the pics better be good because it was a miserable experience! Just so big n heavy. Oh and the F6 jammed rewinding 1 roll of film. Never happened before, really bizarre. I had to clear it by opening the back, exposing a few shots (thankfully at the beginning
...Show more

This lens is fun to use, possibly due to its lightweight metal design, weighing in at just 60 grams. It shares a similar compact size with the CV 40/2.8 Heliar. In terms of image rendering, it closely resembles the Leica 35/1.4 Lux lens but with even more accentuated glow and lower contrast wide open. What's great about it is that you have the ability to fine-tune the level of aberration by slightly narrowing the aperture. Yes, you lose some light but even when you reduce the aperture size, the shape of the aperture remains perfectly circular! So, if I want to enhance contrast and sharpness with slightly less aberration in the images, adjusting it to f/1.7 proves to be a good idea depending on the look you want.



Oct 01, 2023 at 07:24 PM
Desmolicious
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #8 · p.4 #8 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


You do know you need to try that lens on a film M....


Oct 01, 2023 at 07:31 PM
Juha Kannisto
Online
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #9 · p.4 #9 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Some new shots with 2 MS-Optics / MS-Optical lenses from recent days:

MS-Optical Super Triplet Perar 35/3.5 II (on Sony A7CII):
2023/11/21-21: https://photos.app.goo.gl/LFWntZhsQsUkeDRz5

MS-Optics Apoqualia 28/2-II (on Sony A7CII):
2023/11/19: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Mp4rpN7VhjZXCtqQ7

I did some PP with Veres Deni Alex' Sony Film Simulation recipes (including colors & curves but removed grain and put sharpening back to default) in C1 Pro on these (exif model changed to A74).

I used CV close focus adapter II with the Perar as it focuses only to 0.8m natively but I think it's nice for close distance shots utilizing the helicoid adapter and it benefits from slightly thinner adapter than my Rayqual for infinity shots. Corner-to-corner sharpness is not great with that lens for infinity shots but it can produce nice results otherwise.



Nov 22, 2023 at 09:18 AM
Juha Kannisto
Online
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #10 · p.4 #10 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


More from the long weekend, this time with the 2 longest MS-Optics lenses.

MS-Optics Sonnetar 73/1.5 on Friday at Kichijoji (A7CII):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RXkJaYFiwh3k9gFT6

MS-Optics Aporis 135/2.4 on Saturday at Nakano backstreets (A7CII):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/39WN8bM5xb4bDCxP8

I repurchased Aporis a couple of days ago from old stock that has remained in one of the Tokyo camera shops. I briefly had the lens back in 2017 but it had some issues with reaching infinity. This 2nd copy doesn't have such issues. It's a very quirky lens but I'm having fun shooting with it.



Nov 26, 2023 at 06:37 AM
 


Search in Used Dept. 

Juha Kannisto
Online
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #11 · p.4 #11 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


I added MS-Optics Elnomaxim 55/1.2 to my collection today (2nd hand).

Some samples taken on my A7CII with some presets applied in C1 Pro:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wUgWZdX7vpCgdfN86

I'm quite happy with the lens. Only thing is that it has some hard vignetting at infinity at the extreme corners but I can live with that. Lots of glow and interesting effects at wide open, and it goes away pretty fast if the lens is stopped down even a little. Today I shot mostly at f1.2 and f8, just a couple of shots at in-between apertures.

Some other recent stuff with MS-Optics lenses:
Aporis 135/2.4:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qs8QdpCX2yDCdu8V7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8XMtMMAn3Z6Yk36V8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1oqAYuub7fd9kjybA

Super Triplet Perar 35/3.5 II:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/LYGUBYmn7pDMyLP8A



Dec 09, 2023 at 11:45 AM
j.liam
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #12 · p.4 #12 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Miyazaki-san has had a proliferation of speedy 50-55's but never understood what differentiates them from each other. They're all glowy until É/2.8. That's all I'm ever able to glean from the descriptions.


Dec 09, 2023 at 12:47 PM
Sonnar-7
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #13 · p.4 #13 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Juha Kannisto wrote:
I added MS-Optics Elnomaxim 55/1.2 to my collection today (2nd hand).

Some samples taken on my A7CII with some presets applied in C1 Pro:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wUgWZdX7vpCgdfN86

I'm quite happy with the lens. Only thing is that it has some hard vignetting at infinity at the extreme corners but I can live with that. Lots of glow and interesting effects at wide open, and it goes away pretty fast if the lens is stopped down even a little. Today I shot mostly at f1.2 and f8, just a couple of shots at in-between apertures.

Some other recent stuff with MS-Optics lenses:
Aporis 135/2.4:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qs8QdpCX2yDCdu8V7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8XMtMMAn3Z6Yk36V8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1oqAYuub7fd9kjybA

Super Triplet Perar 35/3.5
...Show more

Thanks for all those.
I was curious about the Elnomaxim, itís great to have some samples. It looks like a hard beast to tame, the look despite being a Sonnar is not far from the Heliar but under steroids. I wonder if it cleans up a bit between 1.2 and 1.4.
These lenses that give a hard time can produce such keepers sometimes, itís worth the hassle.
How do you like that one in general or compared to a Sonnetar or Heliar? The 1.2 might be a nice feature in some cases.




Dec 09, 2023 at 02:43 PM
Fred Miranda
Offline
Admin
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #14 · p.4 #14 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Juha Kannisto wrote:
I added MS-Optics Elnomaxim 55/1.2 to my collection today (2nd hand).

Some samples taken on my A7CII with some presets applied in C1 Pro:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wUgWZdX7vpCgdfN86

I'm quite happy with the lens. Only thing is that it has some hard vignetting at infinity at the extreme corners but I can live with that. Lots of glow and interesting effects at wide open, and it goes away pretty fast if the lens is stopped down even a little. Today I shot mostly at f1.2 and f8, just a couple of shots at in-between apertures.

Some other recent stuff with MS-Optics lenses:
Aporis 135/2.4:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qs8QdpCX2yDCdu8V7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8XMtMMAn3Z6Yk36V8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1oqAYuub7fd9kjybA

Super Triplet Perar 35/3.5
...Show more

Thanks for the samples! Very unique lens!

The Elnomaxim is pretty glowy wide open. The character is reminiscent of the Apollon 35mm but even more accentuated to my eyes. The coma is wild like the Leica Thambar.





Dec 09, 2023 at 03:30 PM
Juha Kannisto
Online
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #15 · p.4 #15 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Sonnar-7 wrote:
Thanks for all those.
I was curious about the Elnomaxim, itís great to have some samples. It looks like a hard beast to tame, the look despite being a Sonnar is not far from the Heliar but under steroids. I wonder if it cleans up a bit between 1.2 and 1.4.
These lenses that give a hard time can produce such keepers sometimes, itís worth the hassle.
How do you like that one in general or compared to a Sonnetar or Heliar? The 1.2 might be a nice feature in some cases.

I put together some aperture series with the Elnomaxim to show how the glow cleans up from f1.2 to f1.4 to f1.7 to f2.0. There is a big jump already from f1.2 to f1.4, and then another noticeable jump from f1.4 to f1.7. f1.7 and f2.0 are quite similar to each other. Only f1.2 is super-glowy.

There are 11 series of 4 shots of the same subject showing the progression here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Dt8mQ1AUhdKQpdJM7

I tried to keep the framing as similar as possible but I was shooting handheld and between every shot I had to adjust aperture and also set the focus again because the focus moves quite easily when aperture is adjusted and my shooting position could have changed a little bit between shots. I think these show the differences in glow between those apertures quite clearly in any case.

When comparing Elnomaxim to Sonnetar 50/1.3 (I've never tried the 50/1.1) and Heliar classic 50/1.5, I think overall Sonnetar 50/1.3 is the sharpest at focused position right from wide open and it's never so glowy, but with that lens the image breaks more towards the edges and corners even stopped down to f8 so for infinity shots that benefit from more consistent corner-to-corner sharpness Elnomaxim would be better. Heliar also works quite nicely for infinity shots stopped down. For low light city shooting wide open Sonnetar has different type of halos around bright lights and I haven't really used it much for that type of shooting, whereas Heliar works nicely for that too.

Heliar is quite glowy wide open but less so at close distances and more at longer distances. With Elnomaxim the wide open glow is pretty consistent regardless of distance and image is fairly soft wide open at all distances.

I haven't used the Elnomaxim enough yet to have a clear idea about how I like it in the long run but I think it has some unique qualities and I'm enjoying it so far



Dec 10, 2023 at 04:15 AM
Juha Kannisto
Online
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #16 · p.4 #16 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Fred Miranda wrote:
Thanks for the samples! Very unique lens!

The Elnomaxim is pretty glowy wide open. The character is reminiscent of the Apollon 35mm but even more accentuated to my eyes. The coma is wild like the Leica Thambar.


Thanks Fred! Yes, I also think the wide open glow and low contrast there is reminiscent of Apollon but with Apollon the wide open image is sharper at closest distances and glowier and softer at longer focusing distances, whereas Elnomaxim is pretty consistent with the glow and softness wide open regardless of distance. Stopping it down to f1.4 already cleans up things considerably and by f1.7 the glow is basically gone as shown in the aperture series I posted above. I'm still learning how to use Elnomaxim but I'm having good time shooting with it. My copy has hard infinity calibrated perfectly with my Rayqual aperture which makes it enjoyable to use also for infinity shots.



Dec 10, 2023 at 04:23 AM
Sonnar-7
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #17 · p.4 #17 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Juha Kannisto wrote:
I put together some aperture series with the Elnomaxim to show how the glow cleans up from f1.2 to f1.4 to f1.7 to f2.0. There is a big jump already from f1.2 to f1.4, and then another noticeable jump from f1.4 to f1.7. f1.7 and f2.0 are quite similar to each other. Only f1.2 is super-glowy.

There are 11 series of 4 shots of the same subject showing the progression here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Dt8mQ1AUhdKQpdJM7

I tried to keep the framing as similar as possible but I was shooting handheld and between every shot I had to adjust aperture and also set the focus again
...Show more

Thank you for all these photos, samples and insight. Itís great.



Dec 10, 2023 at 05:27 AM
Fred Miranda
Offline
Admin
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #18 · p.4 #18 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Juha Kannisto wrote:
Thanks Fred! Yes, I also think the wide open glow and low contrast there is reminiscent of Apollon but with Apollon the wide open image is sharper at closest distances and glowier and softer at longer focusing distances, whereas Elnomaxim is pretty consistent with the glow and softness wide open regardless of distance. Stopping it down to f1.4 already cleans up things considerably and by f1.7 the glow is basically gone as shown in the aperture series I posted above. I'm still learning how to use Elnomaxim but I'm having good time shooting with it. My copy has hard
...Show more

My family is a big fan of your work. They love your images because it takes them back to Tokyo!



Dec 10, 2023 at 03:05 PM
Juha Kannisto
Online
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #19 · p.4 #19 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


A couple of more recent photoalbums with my MS-Optics lenses:

A7CII + MS-Optics Elnomaxim 55/1.2 at Ueno on 12/10:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/LDYPFCi8BLfaWGZi7

A7CII + MS-Optics Elnomaxim 55/1.2 around Ebisu on 12/16:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vqgBtDUeZnpgAnG87

A7CII + MS-Optics Apollon 36/1.3 around Shibuya on 12/17:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XtBXXwzjHKawT4nB6



Dec 17, 2023 at 06:51 AM
Sonnar-7
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #20 · p.4 #20 · MS-Optics lenses Image Thread


Juha Kannisto wrote:
A couple of more recent photoalbums with my MS-Optics lenses:

A7CII + MS-Optics Elnomaxim 55/1.2 at Ueno on 12/10:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/LDYPFCi8BLfaWGZi7

A7CII + MS-Optics Elnomaxim 55/1.2 around Ebisu on 12/16:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vqgBtDUeZnpgAnG87

A7CII + MS-Optics Apollon 36/1.3 around Shibuya on 12/17:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XtBXXwzjHKawT4nB6


Thanks for all these! That 36/1.3 looks always so good, they should mass produce it or make a dozen more. It seems to show more glow then a voigtlander classic 35mm 1.4 and a bit of something more organic. Do you feel itís a big improvement to the Ms-Optics 35/1.3 that you own?



Dec 17, 2023 at 07:44 AM
1       2       3      
4
       5       6       end






FM Forums | Leica & Alternative Gear | Join Upload & Sell

1       2       3      
4
       5       6       end
    
 

You are not logged in. Login or Register

Username       Or Reset password



This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.