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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Next X100 camera

I am certain this has been discussed, but are there any rumors for the next iteration to the X100V? I sold mine with conviction and now, months later, finally feel the pang of uncertainty. I'm looking for a fixed lens camera and I'm not quite sure about dumping the money for a Leica Q2.

What features and specs are likely to be a part of the next X100 instant classic? And when will it likely be released?

Jun 30, 2023 at 11:31 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Next X100 camera

I've not seen anything yet on fujirumors, either on the spec or timing; so the field is open for speculation from all :-)

If it is to happen this year, I think it could go either of two ways :
1.. 40 Mpixel sensor and no IBIS
2.. 26 Mpixel sensor and IBIS

The first offering a stills photography bias - more resolution like Leica Q->Q2, but rolling shutter and video shakes. Largely keeping the X100V internals unchanged bar the processor and sensor upgrade.

The second opens the door to more video and low-light users. This might be based on the X-S20 electronics in a X100 EVF+OVF body (if so, this explains the order of model release ).

If it is just more resolution, I would likely stick with the X100V. IBIS is what I desire.

A wild card, and reason for delay, would be a merger of the Xpro and X100 lines into a series of slightly larger fixed lens X100pro cameras ( 16/23/33 ). This would allow optimal OVF and lens view matching and space in the chassis for IBIS and a larger battery.
It sounds very controversial, controversial enough to start a flame war, but Fuji did this in the past with the G690 interchangeable lens camera becoming the GS690 and GSW690 ( see also GS645,GS645S and GS645W). The X-T and X-H lines carry on as the workhorse for the wide range of XF lenses.

Back 2022 before the X100V became completely unavailable, I bought a second one as a safeguard incase Fuji do not release or mess up the follow on camera design ;-)

Jul 01, 2023 at 03:19 AM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Next X100 camera

The idea of higher mega pixels is beginning to appeal to me. I love the sweet spot of 24mp on my FX, but for some reason I think I'd enjoy the extra mp to play around with in a fixed lens camera, not to mention the idea of having a FX fixed lens camera.

I'm having a hard time making the mental jump to Leica due to cost. I started a thread in the Leica forum asking about IQ and while responses were nearly universal in that that Leica IQ is very good, that it's not necessarily leaps and bounds better than what I get from Fuji or Nikon. That's not to say that it isn't good; I'm certain Leica IQ is GREAT. It's just that the Q/Q2 is very expensive by comparison.

Therefore, if Fuji comes out with a higher mp X100, I'd be very interested. As would thousands of other Fuji shooters... In the meantime, I keep going through the exercise of seeing how I can shrink my Z6II, but I'm not sure about the smaller Z lenses.

Jul 01, 2023 at 08:34 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Next X100 camera

It seems you are not the only one asking the question:

https://youtu.be/1OUUCbR4Kjo. ( Leigh and Raymond : 'Is there a X100V replacement...'

As for Leica, I am a long term user. Currently M10 and M10M, but for everyday use, the X100V quality is sufficient and convenience unbeatable. The TL2 and CL tipped me into APS-C ; then Leica killed them, making me switch allegiance.

Jul 01, 2023 at 12:19 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Next X100 camera

Higher MP's and IBIS I reckon.

As for when it will be released? 2024 is my guess.

They are struggling to fulfil orders for the current model, it may not make sense for them to bother with a new one while this is the case. A full order book is keeping their Accountants happy.

I have the X100V as my travel backup camera and will only sell it once I have an order for the next release confirmed.

Jul 02, 2023 at 11:12 AM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Next X100 camera

Just making the current X100 available would be a nice feature. However, I would also be happy with 40 MP and the bigger battery. IBIS would be nice.

Jul 02, 2023 at 03:04 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Next X100 camera

My X100T is getting,,, old. Bright days, it is fine. But lower light, and any kind of magnification... ugh.

MP will be what they be. More than 20MP is fine with me. My M10 and 5DSR fill the high MP role. IBIS would be nice, as I get older and shakier.

What I really want, is a 23/2 lens with the MF/AF clutch like on the Qs and the V1 23/1.4 lens for the Xpro.

My M10 was by second camera for vacation this year- and that gave me enough time and repition to get used to it, but shooting M cameras is like playing golf- you have to do it two times a week if you want to be good at it...

If the X100? has 24mp and a clutch af/mf lens, I'm in and would probably sell my M10.

I'd also like to see the next EX-5? and the V1 23/1.4 lens. As a poor mans Q...

Jul 02, 2023 at 10:18 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Next X100 camera

Fuji is still having production issues. My guess is the OVF production which impacted the XP3 too. Sales on the X100V seemed to be high so it's hard to say if this was a profitability issue but it seems clear Fuji though their core products needed the refresh to keep pros happy, so we got XH and XT. So they might be concentrating on what they can do to keep market share.

But my guess is things will also undergo value engineering to make less expensive from a labor standpoint. I foresee simpler X100 from a mechanical standpoint with more "tech" in them. Either that or they keep the X100V on a "when we get around to making them" basis which is what they are doing now.

Jul 03, 2023 at 09:40 AM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Next X100 camera

FrozenInTime wrote:
I've not seen anything yet on fujirumors, either on the spec or timing; so the field is open for speculation from all :-)

If it is to happen this year, I think it could go either of two ways :
1.. 40 Mpixel sensor and no IBIS
2.. 26 Mpixel sensor and IBIS

The first offering a stills photography bias - more resolution like Leica Q->Q2, but rolling shutter and video shakes. Largely keeping the X100V internals unchanged bar the processor and sensor upgrade.

The second opens the door to more video and low-light users. This might be based on the X-S20 electronics in a...Show more →

I don't understand why people associate IBIS with video. IBIS has been there long before video on DSLRs / mirrorless became a thing and its a feature very much developed for stills.

Jul 03, 2023 at 11:35 AM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Next X100 camera

curious80 wrote:
I don't understand why people associate IBIS with video. IBIS has been there long before video on DSLRs / mirrorless became a thing and its a feature very much developed for stills.

Always good to look at a problem from several viewpoints.

Additional to the X100Vs, I bought a pair of X-T5s with 18 and 33mm Fujilux lenses primarily for stills in low light with the benefits of IBIS allowing handheld use to 1/4s or so. It was clear the video would be compromised by the 40Mpixel sensor readout time.

Putting IBIS in the X100VI would, for sure, benefit both stills and video photographers; the sensor and time to market choices are more difficult to call.

Jul 03, 2023 at 03:50 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Next X100 camera

It would be a strange business move to depart too far from a formula that has seen the X100V sold out everywhere for the past couple of years. The two things that would make an improvement would be IBIS and putting in the 40mp sensor. Other than that the X100V was pretty much the perfect fixed lens premium camera.

Make it available or an X-E5 with IBIS and the 40mp sensor and I’d be very happy.

Jul 03, 2023 at 06:37 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Next X100 camera

Either way I pray they can keep the shelves stocked

Oct 02, 2023 at 09:41 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Next X100 camera

Fujirumors has reported that the next gen/iteration of the X100 series will be coming "early"/Q1 2024.

https://www.fujirumors.com/rumor-fujifilm-x100v-successor-coming-with-a-new-lens-in-early-2024/

Oct 03, 2023 at 02:08 PM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Next X100 camera

Agree, so hard to find these cameras in stock and private parties charging way over msrp

Oct 03, 2023 at 05:23 PM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Next X100 camera

If IBIS makes the X100 bigger than the V, not interested. The camera is already super easy to shoot at slower speeds because it's nice and lightweight.

I'd be totally fine with them ditching the OVF, but that's just a personal preference...I feel that my unit is skewed a few degrees which makes taking a straight shot using the OFV impossible.

Oct 04, 2023 at 11:15 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Next X100 camera

Fivesense wrote:
I am certain this has been discussed, but are there any rumors for the next iteration to the X100V? I sold mine with conviction and now, months later, finally feel the pang of uncertainty. I'm looking for a fixed lens camera and I'm not quite sure about dumping the money for a Leica Q2.

What features and specs are likely to be a part of the next X100 instant classic? And when will it likely be released?

The X100(x) series cameras (I’ll just write X100 from here on) are a proven design/concept, so I don’t think that Fujifilm will make any radical changes to that. FWIW, I expect (but, obviously, don’t “know”) that the successor camera will look much like the X100v. My guess is that we’ll see;

- the same form factor, with minor tweaks to control locations and similar.

- maybe some changes to the LCD design, as Fujifilm does seem to tweak that on different models. Maybe not. (I’m a fan of the design on the XT5.)

- the same 40 MP sensor used in the XT5 and the XH2.

- likely the same f/2 lens. Not that they couldn’t do something here, but they already tweaked the lens in the last iteration. I don’t expect a different focal length or a different maximum aperture. (Going larger than f/2 would have size ramifications that would upset the design concept of this camera.)

- probably incorporate IBIS. The weight/size implications are trivial these days, the potential advantages are real, and there’s virtually no downside to including it.

- I agree that the OVF is not the same selling point that it once was, what with (almost) everyone getting used to EVFs and with their quality improving, but I’m not sure Fujifilm is ready to do away with it yet… despite the advantage is manufacturing cost and size/weight.

When will it arrive? No idea. I figured it would not get announced at the recent GFX-centric event, and it wasn’t. If Fujifilm has ironed out its production issues (and that’s still a bit “if”) it could be as soon as around the start of the year, but that’s a wild guess.

In the end, this is all speculation at this point though, so whatever.

Given the shortage of the current X100v model and the ridiculous prices for used copies, I’d counsel patience unless you really, really need one right now. Or consider the XT5 with the 27mm f/2.8 for now.

Oct 04, 2023 at 11:44 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Next X100 camera

I don't see them putting IBIS into it because it would be self-competing with the XT5 and XS20. But considering how small the unit is in the XT5 it seems entirely doable from a design/engineering standpoint.

Dan's consistent point about EVF quality for the apprehensive is totally true. No one really thinks that an EVF won't give them them the accuracy they need or the lag they don't want. But in contrast to that I have heard many a photographer (and reviewer) talk about how they are tired of looking at a video screen all day (including work computers, tablets and iPhones) and that they love the Fuji hybrid OVF for that reason. Even if people don't actually use the OVF there is a branding aspect to it that makes Fuji stand out.

Considering the influencer hype over the X100 I wonder if they will put the XE4/Sony A6600 selfie mode flip up screen on it. Something tells me Fuji is afraid of fragile screen designs after the Xpro3.

Oct 04, 2023 at 12:25 PM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Next X100 camera

Save your money and get a Leica eventually.

Oct 04, 2023 at 04:07 PM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Next X100 camera

ottokbre wrote:
I don't see them putting IBIS into it because it would be self-competing with the XT5 and XS20. But considering how small the unit is in the XT5 it seems entirely doable from a design/engineering standpoint.

Dan's consistent point about EVF quality for the apprehensive is totally true. No one really thinks that an EVF won't give them them the accuracy they need or the lag they don't want. But in contrast to that I have heard many a photographer (and reviewer) talk about how they are tired of looking at a video screen all day (including work computers, tablets...Show more →

Simply adding the portrait tilt of the X-T5 would be a major win

Oct 04, 2023 at 04:09 PM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Next X100 camera

ottokbre wrote:
I don't see them putting IBIS into it because it would be self-competing with the XT5 and XS20. But considering how small the unit is in the XT5 it seems entirely doable from a design/engineering standpoint.

It is possible that they might adopt the perspective that the X100v replacement doesn’t need IBIS — maybe for some marketing reason along the lines of some they came up with for the XPro3. (“Pure photography doesn’t need IBIS!”) I don’t think that there’s a lot of competition between the X100 series and those other cameras though — a fixed lens camera is a different critter than the interchangeable lens cameras.

I think that the general direction we’re headed with IBIS is that it becomes a standard feature on cameras rather than a limited distribution extra — sort of like back-up cameras on cars. And, honestly, there’s almost no functional downside to including the current IBIS systems, and there are considerable upsides.

Dan's consistent point about EVF quality for the apprehensive is totally true. No one really thinks that an EVF won't give them them the accuracy they need or the lag they don't want. But in contrast to that I have heard many a photographer (and reviewer) talk about how they are tired of looking at a video screen all day (including work computers, tablets and iPhones) and that they love the Fuji hybrid OVF for that reason. Even if people don't actually use the OVF there is a branding aspect to it that makes Fuji stand out.

I think there’s something to that notion about being tired of looking at screens all day. Among other things, I don’t think it is great for our vision. But few photographers spend the whole day looking into the viewfinders the way we might while, say, post-processing.

For my part, I actually like OVF cameras — I’ve used them for decades and I learned to work around their framing inaccuracies and so forth.When EVFs were a newer thing and the technology was not as good, the OVF is what attracted me to the XPro line. But now, some years later, EVFs have improved a lot… and we have become more accustomed to using EVF displays on cameras. And as that happens, we start to notice the “issues” with EVFs less and less… just as we eventually mostly stopped noticing things like the inaccurate framing of rangefinders and the momentary blackout on (D)SLRs.

Considering the influencer hype over the X100 I wonder if they will put the XE4/Sony A6600 selfie mode flip up screen on it. Something tells me Fuji is afraid of fragile screen designs after the Xpro3.

I worry about that a bit — about Fujifilm moving the X100 design away from being a simple, basic, responsive camera to being something less focused. I’m not sure that a flip-up screen (or a flip-out) screen would necessary destroy the camera’s functionality, but I think it would complexity things (and possibly add weight and size) unnecessarily.

After using the XT5 extensively, I’m now a confirmed fan to its tilting screen design. It is quick, solid, and quite flexible.

Oct 04, 2023 at 04:53 PM

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