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2 new Z lenses tonight ... 180-600 and 70-180

  
 
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I got mine this morning in Tokyo. It will complement nicely the 400mm f4.5 S and 400mm f2.8 S TC.

I am still puzzled at the way some posters here appear to focus only on sharpness at 600mm as the only relevant KPI to assess this lens against.

First, it is unclear whether there is an actual difference of sharpness and if there is how large the gap is.

Second, and far more importantly, sharpness is only one of the relevant aspects to measure a lens. I continue to think that bokeh quality is far more important and this is an aspect where the Nikon Z 180-600mm clearly smokes competion by a large margin.

Nikon optimzed this lens for bokeh quality and this was obviously the right thing to do. It is probably the first time in history that such a low cost 600mm lens offers such an outstanding bokeh.

Well done Nikon!



Aug 30, 2023 at 07:48 PM
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bernardl wrote:
I got mine this morning in Tokyo. It will complement nicely the 400mm f4.5 S and 400mm f2.8 S TC.

I am still puzzled at the way some posters here appear to focus only on sharpness at 600mm as the only relevant KPI to assess this lens against.

First, it is unclear whether there is an actual difference of sharpness and if there is how large the gap is.

Second, and far more importantly, sharpness is only one of the relevant aspects to measure a lens. I continue to think that bokeh quality is far more important and this is an aspect where
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Congratulations looking forward to seeing how you like it! I'm a big fan of Bokeh as well but need decent speed, doesn't have to be crazy good (got that covered) but it needs to be decent! I'm assuming I will hear from NPS tomorrow on the status of mine but I expect to get it in this shipment at least I think I will. Of course I leave for a 7 day trip to NY tomorrow so there's that! 😩



Aug 30, 2023 at 09:22 PM
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bernardl wrote:
I got mine this morning in Tokyo. It will complement nicely the 400mm f4.5 S and 400mm f2.8 S TC.

I am still puzzled at the way some posters here appear to focus only on sharpness at 600mm as the only relevant KPI to assess this lens against.

First, it is unclear whether there is an actual difference of sharpness and if there is how large the gap is.

Second, and far more importantly, sharpness is only one of the relevant aspects to measure a lens. I continue to think that bokeh quality is far more important and this is an aspect where
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congratulation. Looking forward to see some images from you. Overhere, it will be another 10-12 days before release and this one will be priced quite a bit higher than in Japan unfortuately. I was kind of tempted but then I already have 800PF, 400/2.8TC, 100-400, not really sure where 180-600 will fit in. 400/2.8TC is already small and light enough for me to travel with it to most places and thrwo in 100-400, I am pretty much cover.




Aug 31, 2023 at 02:57 AM
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bernardl wrote:
I got mine this morning in Tokyo. It will complement nicely the 400mm f4.5 S and 400mm f2.8 S TC.


Congratulations.


I am still puzzled at the way some posters here appear to focus only on sharpness at 600mm as the only relevant KPI to assess this lens against.


In long zooms of this price class and the ones a bit below it, has been typical that the images are not quite sharp and the relatively moderate maximum aperture (f/6.3) also makes it more difficult to achieve quite the crystal clarity that traditional high-end long lenses (such as 600/4 or your 400/2.8) are known for.

Also many photographers who aspire to purchase this type of a lens probably are not getting close enough to the subjects to not have to crop, so they are likely to be frequently cropping too deep, and so every bit of sharpness helps in that case. Of course, shorter distance shots without cropping will have much better quality. But this requires patience and knowledge of the subjects, and spending a lot of time in the wild.


Second, and far more importantly, sharpness is only one of the relevant aspects to measure a lens. I continue to think that bokeh quality is far more important and this is an aspect where the Nikon Z 180-600mm clearly smokes competion by a large margin.


While I don't disagree the out-of-focus rendering is important but it's probably too early to make conclusions about that. The lens needs to be used for different subjects, in different surroundings, distances and lighting conditions before comprehensive assessments can be made. Even the best lenses sometimes produce less than desirable out-of-focus effects.

Let us know how you get on with the new lens. I'm interested to hear how the tripod collar works (if you shoot it with a tripod).



Aug 31, 2023 at 04:06 AM
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nps is also shipping to the stores in the us


Aug 31, 2023 at 09:15 AM
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Still sour I had to cancel and re-order my initial pre-order. Lesson learned to check the shipping address.


Aug 31, 2023 at 09:33 AM
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Got the call this morning - mine is ready for pickup.


Aug 31, 2023 at 10:06 AM
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Ready for pickup here as well, USA, nps. Just in time for the long weekend!


Aug 31, 2023 at 11:55 AM
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My local shop has not yet received any....hopefully soon?


Aug 31, 2023 at 12:02 PM
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Mine is on it's way, arriving tomorrow from Nikon


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I can't wait to see how it compares to 400f4.5 with 1.4xTC.


Aug 31, 2023 at 01:25 PM
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Non-NPS. Ordered from B&H at 12:04 am Eastern time just after orders went live. Credit card just charged and order “in progress”.


Aug 31, 2023 at 02:33 PM
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cvrle59 wrote:
I can't wait to see how it compares to 400f4.5 with 1.4xTC.


Based on Ricci's initial review we should expect the 400 4.5 with TC to perform better in terms of sharpness. But by how much and whether or not in matters in everyday shooting remains to be seen. His tests were viewed at 200% magnification. I think in real life and at 100% it won't matter. It'll just come down to size, weight, and flexibility more so than absolute image quality.

I'm interested in a bokeh comparison in addition to sharpness as well.



Aug 31, 2023 at 03:12 PM
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Got call that mine was ready to ship but naturally I left for a 1 week trip to NY. Won't be home until Sept 7th so they will ship it to me so I get it then.


Aug 31, 2023 at 03:43 PM
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We will be very interested in reading what you have to say about this lens George.

Well..... I know I will anyway

Seriously, We will all be looking for your 180-600 images.

Robert



Aug 31, 2023 at 03:55 PM
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bs kite wrote:
We will be very interested in reading what you have to say about this lens George.

Well..... I know I will anyway

Seriously, We will all be looking for your 180-600 images.

Robert


I'm not even interested in what I have to say!! 🤣

Anyway will be about 8-9 days before I get to try it! Thank you sir!!



Aug 31, 2023 at 04:33 PM
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Aug 31, 2023 at 04:50 PM
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Camping out in front of store tonite…. Lol pickup mine in am, goes on trip for sat, just in time.


Aug 31, 2023 at 08:51 PM
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p.16 #19 · p.16 #19 · 2 new Z lenses tonight ... 180-600 and 70-180


I am surprised they are shipping these already. I thought they were more delayed, so I bought a 500pf on here instead. I was offered one of the 180-600 but I passed for now. I hope this new lens ends up being everything we hope it will be. I'm sure I'll own one at some point, I just can't resist!


Sep 01, 2023 at 08:59 AM
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p.16 #20 · p.16 #20 · 2 new Z lenses tonight ... 180-600 and 70-180


AF capabilities using Z8 for birding.




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