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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


Assume that all I am photographing is 90% my children. My daughter is 5 and does dance. My son is 7 and does Cub Scouts. I also photograph all their school activities (Christmas events, awards ceremonies, etc). I don't do professional sports or safari or birding (anymore). I'm currently getting by on a 6DII that I've had for years, a 40mm 2.8 pancake, a 24-105mm f/4L IS II, a 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II and a Sigma 150-600mm C. I recently came back to FredMiranda and i'm seeing the ridiculous low prices that 1DXII bodies are selling for and well, i'm curious. I know the 1DXII will focus faster, shoot faster, has higher ISO abilities and can shoot 4K video. All of which sound great to me. What am I missing if I leave the 6DII for the 1DXII? I don't care about camera weight, I use the 6DII with a battery grip as it is and I like the feeling of heft

Help me convince myself (and my wife!) that I need a 1DXII in my life



May 25, 2023 at 11:00 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


I would take s 5D4 over the 1DX2 personally. More resolution, better ISO and DR, and AF is quite good, almost 1D quality.


May 25, 2023 at 11:18 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


Before Iíd even opened the thread I was pondering your situation. Like you I too have the 6dii but use the older 5d3 gripped with ef 100-400ii to take shots of my sons football. Iíve ruled out the R stuff - except maybe if I stumbled on a cheap used R3, certainly not any of the others But realistically next season I might consider the 1dx ii myself. As you say going from gripped dslr to a 1d isnít as dramatic as if we were currently using a light weight Rebel.

No doubt about it, the 1dx ii will deliver in spades. If you do go for it, give some feedback here to benefit others in a similar situation ÖÖ me!! 😂

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May 25, 2023 at 11:41 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


1DXII was my main DSLR from 2016 until late 2022. It will be much more responsive and immediate than the 6DII. Also louder, though it does have a couple 'silent' (quieter) advance options.

It's a great camera for a DSLR. The 5DIV will sit somewhere between the 6DII and 1DXII. Yes, higher resolution, but it's a slower feeling camera than the 1DXII, probably closer to your 6DII.

But, do yourself a favor and try either the R6II or R8 mirrorless cameras. Both have the same sensor and general electronics (processor, etc.). Last fall I tried all the current Canon FF mirrorless options and ended up with the R6II (I shoot a fair amount of sports such as football and hockey). Its AF is simply noticeably better than the 1DXII - it's more consistent from shot to shot, and it can follow focus up to 40fps, too, if desired. It's at a higher level of performance, IMO. What I also like about it, is I can use it as a smaller, general purpose camera while out on walks, etc., when I otherwise would not have brought along the 1DXII. No the R6II does not have the 'pro feel' of the 1D series, but I got over that pretty quickly after repeatedly experiencing how much better it focus tracks challenging subjects.

Sure, if you've got some cash to burn and wondered what all the fuss was about the 1D series, perhaps now is the time to try one for cheap. But if you simply want much better AF and responsiveness for keeping up with your growing children, you'll definitely benefit from the R6II, which includes really impressive subject/face/eye detection and tracking that DSLRs can't match. If the R6II is out of the budget, then look at the R8 for a grand less. All of your Canon EF glass will seamlessly adapt to these R cameras (apparently there are some AF performance concerns with the Sigma 150-600 on R cameras).



May 26, 2023 at 12:07 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


Watch out for the media and batteries. This camera uses Compact Flash (a dying format) and CFast (an abandoned format). Replacement batteries are expensive, but they are at least the current version of the ones for the 1-series and now R3.


May 26, 2023 at 08:10 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


I had the 5D3 and then stumbled on the then new 1DX and... EVERYone should own a 1D# once just to understand and feel The Force. You know when you hold one, shoot one, hear one. Yes of course, buy one!


May 26, 2023 at 09:22 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


melcat wrote:
Watch out for the media and batteries. This camera uses Compact Flash (a dying format) and CFast (an abandoned format). Replacement batteries are expensive, but they are at least the current version of the ones for the 1-series and now R3.


This is absurd. I have 10 year old LP-E4 batteries that are still strong and a single charge will easily shoot 2000+ pics. Half the time people are including an extra battery anyways. CF cards are dirt cheap, cfast are not that bad.

If you don't care that much about the 1dx2 shutter sound at a dance recital being too much, it will never let you down.



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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


adamx12m wrote:
I have 10 year old LP-E4 batteries that are still strong and a single charge will easily shoot 2000+ pics.


Mine made it to about 6 years. Of the three LP-E4N replacements I bought, one failed after 2 years and the others are still going at about 6. They tend to lock up the cameras in cold weather using high frame rate before the charger declares them too far gone to ďcalibrateĒ. All were genuine Canon.

Half the time people are including an extra battery anyways.

It depends on where you are. In many places it is hard to ship a lithium ion battery not fitted to a device.

CF cards are dirt cheap, cfast are not that bad.

Sure, you can still buy the media and readers new, but they will not be useful with future new bodies. Iíll let the OP judge whatís cheap, but these are things I would never buy used.



May 26, 2023 at 08:57 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


The 1DXII obviously has faster AF and frame rate. It has a more durable shutter mechanism (rated to 400K) and a higher X-sync speed. It should also have better weather sealing although I'm not sure how much of a factor that would be for you.

In terms of image quality, the 1DXII is actually a small step back. Not only is it a loss of 6Mpixels, but I think the 6DII handles high ISO a little better.

I suppose it depends on how much action you plan to shoot. I wouldn't want to (and don't) shoot sports with the 6DII, but for everything else, it's still a fantastic camera.

I agree with rscheffler that the new mirrorless cameras are better, but they also cost more.



May 28, 2023 at 12:25 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


adamx12m wrote:
If you don't care that much about the 1dx2 shutter sound


I'd wait for the kids to get older before deciding.






May 28, 2023 at 05:48 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


Get a 5D4.


May 28, 2023 at 05:53 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


Iíd second the recommendation of getting an R6 II or R8. Much bigger improvement in AF, especially for tracking kids. Better sensor and significantly lighter. The 1DX II will have very good AF, but will have nowhere near the precision and eye tracking ability of the newest mirrorless bodies.

If youíre committed to staying with a DSLR, itís not a bad choice, but personally, when I first went from a smaller body to a 1 series body years ago, it eventually soured me on my whole kit due to the weight. 5D4 might be a better choice if you want a DSLR and donít want the huge weight.



May 28, 2023 at 06:38 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


Thanks for the comments guys.

To address some of the points being made: I've shot with the 1DX and the 1DXII thanks to CPS and I was not bothered by the weight.

I owned a 5DIV for a while and ended up selling it (bad decision) and then got the 6DII because it was cheaper.

I don't understand why so many say that the 6DII has better ISO than a 1DXII when the 1DXII ISO setting goes much higher and the 6DII performs poorly (in my opinion) above ISO 3200. Perhaps I ask too much of my cameras in that regard.

I can't afford to get into mirrorless right now, otherwise I would be considering an R5. I'm too spoiled by too many years of FF sensors to go "backwards" to anything that isn't FF.

Lastly, I think you've all convinced me (plus my wife is working hard at it too) to just stay with the 6DII for now until we can make the jump to mirrorless entirely.



Jun 01, 2023 at 09:01 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 6DII to 1DXII - worth it?


Max_Pain wrote:
Thanks for the comments guys.

To address some of the points being made: I've shot with the 1DX and the 1DXII thanks to CPS and I was not bothered by the weight.

I owned a 5DIV for a while and ended up selling it (bad decision) and then got the 6DII because it was cheaper.

I don't understand why so many say that the 6DII has better ISO than a 1DXII when the 1DXII ISO setting goes much higher and the 6DII performs poorly (in my opinion) above ISO 3200. Perhaps I ask too much of my cameras in that regard.

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Haven't used I think you should consider the 1Dx2 though. Probably has better af, and the weight doesn't bother you. Probably loud though if that's a distraction. Looks like it has oil splatter problem if you shoot past f/8 a lot. Might have a LV mode that makes it quieter?

Personal preference plays a part but I don't have trouble using 3200 on inexpensive aps most of the time. What are you using as far as noise reduction software? Might be a great investment if you don't already have any. Looking at online files 5D4, 6D, 6D2 pretty close, I doubt much different than the 1Dx2. I pulled up the image comparison tool and it does look better though. Sure if you're really going past 51200 a setting could help a lot imo but looking at A7S series on image comparison tool it didn't seem much better, if any, than regular DSLR up to 25600 or 51200 or so. So if you're not going past 3200 I doubt the higher settings help much. Are you using good noise reduction software?

I guess you could go mirrorless I'm still a DSLR guy myself. The weight would be a major negative for me but if you don't mind that should be a really great camera that lasts a long long time



Jun 02, 2023 at 12:22 PM







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