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Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

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p.15 #1 · p.15 #1 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

It's disappointing to learn that the new Q3 is freezing a lot. In a video review, the reviewer mentioned that the car froze twice within one hour, and they had to take out the battery to fix it.

Jun 27, 2023 at 10:49 PM

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p.15 #2 · p.15 #2 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

Mine froze once... When I had forgot to turn it off and it went to sleep mode for several days. Battery was still charged.. had to remove it. Other than that.. have not had a problem with freezing

Jun 28, 2023 at 09:32 AM

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p.15 #3 · p.15 #3 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

When I was at Leica Store Los Angeles the demo Q3 froze once.

Jun 28, 2023 at 11:08 AM

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p.15 #4 · p.15 #4 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

I saw that. Disappointing, for sure, but given how complex these cameras are these days, not wholly unexpected. All you can hope for is that camera companies become really good at pushing out software/firmware updates.

I'm curious about people's impressions of image quality as well as shooting experience of the Q3 vs the Q2.

Jun 28, 2023 at 11:13 AM

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p.15 #5 · p.15 #5 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

patotts wrote:
I saw that. Disappointing, for sure, but given how complex these cameras are these days, not wholly unexpected. All you can hope for is that camera companies become really good at pushing out software/firmware updates.

I'm curious about people's impressions of image quality as well as shooting experience of the Q3 vs the Q2.

This should answer any questions on how the market is reacting to the Q3 teething issues.

https://leicarumors.com/2023/06/28/leica-japan-leica-q3-orders-far-exceed-our-expectations-and-deliveries-may-take-some-time.aspx/

Jun 28, 2023 at 11:34 AM

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p.15 #6 · p.15 #6 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

Is portrait out of the question with this lens if trying to treat it like a 50?

Jun 28, 2023 at 12:41 PM

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p.15 #7 · p.15 #7 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

davewolfs wrote:
Is portrait out of the question with this lens if trying to treat it like a 50?

Sure. Why not? Still have around 20MP at the 50mm setting and a bit more apparent DoF.

Some people shoot fab portraits at 28mm as well. Lot's of street shooters love the 28 for portraits.

Gordon

Jun 28, 2023 at 03:11 PM

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p.15 #8 · p.15 #8 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

davewolfs wrote:
Is portrait out of the question with this lens if trying to treat it like a 50?

50mm will be 1.8x crop btw 1.5x-1.6x apsc and 2x m43 sensors.

Q2 28mm

Q2 50mm

Jun 28, 2023 at 03:16 PM

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p.15 #9 · p.15 #9 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

Does distortion come into play when comparing a cropped 50 vs a true 50?

Jun 29, 2023 at 10:18 PM

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p.15 #10 · p.15 #10 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

davewolfs wrote:
Does distortion come into play when comparing a cropped 50 vs a true 50?

No.

If the subject is the same size in the frame and the angle of view is the same then you'll get exactly the same shot with the following differences. The apparent DoF will be deeper using the same aperture and the potential for noise will increase due to the greater level of enlargement (for the cropped shot). Also in the Q3 case you'll need to take into account the drop in resolution. Other than that they're the same. You'll also be shooting from the same position.

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Jun 29, 2023 at 11:31 PM

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p.15 #11 · p.15 #11 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

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Anyone who says “my M11 doesn’t freeze” what they mean to say is “my M11 freezes but I just take the battery out. It’s now habit so I don’t think about it”.

My M11 has never frozen. Not once. The only time I take the battery out is to access the SD Card. Even that is infrequent because I have come to downloading my images and charging through the USB cable. The M11 is very easy to live with. It goes everywhere with me, sits plugged in on my desk at home, and has never given me one second trouble.

Jun 30, 2023 at 01:13 PM

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p.15 #12 · p.15 #12 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

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@Fred Miranda@

Disappointing yes. Surprising no.

Considering the M11 is basically the king of frozen cameras I just don’t trust what’s coming out of Wetzlar post pandemic. Lenses or cameras.

My 10R has been faultless and I’m sticking to it. Otherwise I would go with Film. (Old and well used like a used M3).

Anyone who says “my M11 doesn’t freeze” what they mean to say is “my M11 freezes but I just take the battery out. It’s now habit so I don’t think about it”.

Count me in as another “my M11 doesn’t freeze” M11 photographer. Probably the reason you don't hear more from us is because “my M11 doesn’t freeze” doesn't make for a very thrilling thread topic.

Jun 30, 2023 at 01:26 PM

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p.15 #13 · p.15 #13 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

Untrue wrote:
@Fred Miranda@

Anyone who says “my M11 doesn’t freeze” what they mean to say is “my M11 freezes but I just take the battery out. It’s now habit so I don’t think about it”.

My M11 has frozen exactly once. 2nd day of ownership. None since then. That's over a year.

Some M11's have issues. But those who don't usually don't bother reporting they're having no issues.

Gordon

Jun 30, 2023 at 03:26 PM

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p.15 #14 · p.15 #14 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

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Today, I had the chance to compare the angle of view of two lenses: the Leica 28mm f/1.4 Lux and the Q2's 28mm f/1.7 Lux.

After doing some calculations, I found that the Q lens actually measures 26.7mm, so almost 27mm.

This is quite close to the 28mm focal length of the Leica 28/1.4 Lux, assuming that the latter is indeed a 28mm lens when focused at infinity.

In other words its a total non issue despite the endless absurd whining posts.

Jun 30, 2023 at 03:50 PM

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p.15 #15 · p.15 #15 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

Indeed. In my opinion it’s a non issue. It’s a lens optically designed for “post” distortion correction. Nothing wrong with that because IQ is still fantastic after correction. About same level as the 28/1.4 Lux. The lens is a 27mm after correction so it makes sense that Leica markets it as a 28mm lens.
I am glad I picked up a Q2. I am loving it.

vertigo1959 wrote:
In other words its a total non issue despite the endless absurd whining posts.

Jun 30, 2023 at 06:02 PM

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p.15 #16 · p.15 #16 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

Off topic but the new Q3 battery works perfectly fine in my original SL 601. Happy to see the price come back to reality for spare batteries that will work in all SL cameras and Q2s and Q3s.

Jun 30, 2023 at 06:25 PM

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p.15 #17 · p.15 #17 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

The Q2/Q3 batteries can be used interchangeably, sort of.

The Q3 battery works on the older cams no problem.

The Q2 battery will work on the Q3, but you will NOT be able use 8K video. The selection for 8K in the menu will be greyed out.

Jun 30, 2023 at 08:06 PM

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p.15 #18 · p.15 #18 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

Regarding the Q3, it is a hard pass for me.

The only thing I like about the new camera is USB-charging. It would be nice for travel. But honestly I'm based at home 95% of the year, and I always have one battery ready on the charger. I'd come home from shooting, pop and load, and I'm ready for the next day. With how easy it is to change batteries on these Leica's, it's just faster and more convenient than fiddling with cables.

As mentioned by Fred and others, I much prefer the simpler and sleeker design of the Q1/Q2, along with the buttons on the left side. I rarely even use the LCD for shooting, so the extra bulk/weight of the tilt screen is a big detriment.

As for autofocus, I don't trust AF-C unless it is on the same level as the latest Sony (A1/A7VR) cameras. There's nothing worse than unreliable AF-C. I don't even consider the A7C good enough, and I doubt AF-C on the Q3 is on that level. I much rather shoot in AF-S which is more reliable on CDAF cameras (and probably on the Q3 with PDAF as well)

The biggest drawback is the reported freezing issues though... that is really disappointing. I'll stick with my Q1 silver and Q2 reporter both of which are rock solid.

Jun 30, 2023 at 08:38 PM

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p.15 #19 · p.15 #19 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

I have been using the Q3 battery on the Q2 without any issues. Not a single freeze even after more than 1000 exposures.

Jun 30, 2023 at 09:16 PM

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p.15 #20 · p.15 #20 · Official: Leica Q3 Unveiled, Now Open for Pre-Orders

Folks over at LUF are reporting laggy EVF, long EVF blackouts, and 2-3x worse battery life compared to the Q2. I wonder if there's any validity to those claims.

Jul 01, 2023 at 11:41 AM

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