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Allthink wrote:
If I go that route, then what about the other colleagues saying here that the 70-200 is III is not as fast as sony's 70-200 GM II because it has an older focusing motors? Because I neither have 70-200 for canon nor for sony, yet.
R3 seems like a good camera, wondering how it works with 300mm 2.8 IS mk1 with adapter?

Don’t listen to that guy… the Canon system is solid. The R3 is an amazing camera built especially for sports.. this is coming from a Nikon user.

A good friend of mine shoots for USA Today and he uses the system. It doesn’t hamper him from getting published in Sports Illustrated so I doubt you will have any issues. Good Luck!

May 22, 2023 at 04:55 PM

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carl_g wrote:
Don’t listen to that guy… the Canon system is solid. The R3 is an amazing camera built especially for sports.. this is coming from a Nikon user.

A good friend of mine shoots for USA Today and he uses the system. It doesn’t hamper him from getting published in Sports Illustrated so I doubt you will have any issues. Good Luck!

usa today staffers shoot with sony gear: https://www.dpreview.com/news/9739857608/sony-official-imaging-products-provider-gannett-250-outlets-including-usa-today

r3 looks like a good camera, and while the innovative eye-control af is the biggest reason to get one, it only works for about half the people who try it, better rent first to test... a1 is a better camera for not much more money, and sony uses cutting-edge technology that canon apparently will never have, like four focus motors in the fe70-200ii.

May 24, 2023 at 10:15 AM

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osv2 wrote:
usa today staffers shoot with sony gear: https://www.dpreview.com/news/9739857608/sony-official-imaging-products-provider-gannett-250-outlets-including-usa-today

That statement is an over generalization. Not all of the USA Today photographers are using Sony right now. Even the article that you linked to does not support that statement. I'm assuming you're not indicating that carl_g is incorrect in what he stated?

May 24, 2023 at 01:45 PM

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pulper11 wrote:
That statement is an over generalization.

no, you are confused.

pulper11 wrote:
Not all of the USA Today photographers are using Sony right now.

are you referring to freelancers or staff photographers?

"Gannett, which owns more than 250 national and local media outlets in the United States, including USA Today, will see its visual journalists transition to Sony’s lineup of cameras, lenses, audio equipment and accessories. This consists of hundreds of professional multimedia journalists who cover over 10,000 events each year."

pulper11 wrote:
Even the article that you linked to does not support that statement.

see above.

pulper11 wrote:
I'm assuming you're not indicating that carl_g is incorrect in what he stated?

see above.

May 24, 2023 at 02:19 PM

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Hello colleagues
I don't know who is right, each company's decision with which cameras to work doesn't reflect cameras ability or disability or disadvantage, it can be also economical, marketing or any other factors,

but the initial post question was about totally different topic. Let's keep it there.

May 24, 2023 at 02:23 PM

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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · AF of 1D X III and A9 II for sports

I'll just add this and then I'll not respond to anything else to honor your request:

Directly from the article that was linked:

"As for what this transition will look like for the hundreds of photographers and videographers across Gannett’s newsrooms, Scott says the transition to Sony will be a multi-year process, due to a number of factors. First, Scott says many of Gannett’s newsrooms ‘still have an extensive inventory of current equipment that is still functional, so it’s going to be a process of working through that equipment as it’s depreciated out.’"

The statement provided by osv2 made it appear that carl_g wasn't correct. Maybe that wasn't his/her goal. This quote above should clear up any misunderstanding about a USA Today photographer using Canon gear currently.

Good luck with your photography, Allthink.

May 24, 2023 at 02:33 PM

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pulper11 wrote:
The statement provided by osv2 made it appear that carl_g wasn't correct. Maybe that wasn't his/her goal. This quote above should clear up any misunderstanding about a USA Today photographer using Canon gear currently.

you still don't get it.

usa today has both paid staff photographers and freelancers under contract: https://www.editorandpublisher.com/stories/photographers-applaud-usa-today-contract,105244

carl_g claimed that he knew someone who "shoots for usa today", as if an ambiguous claim about one photographer somehow proves something.

he failed to clarify if it was a freelancer under contract or a staff photographer, so i pointed out that staff photogs are shooting sony, which i proved with the link.

nitpicking about the usa today staff transition time to sony is irrelevant to the point that was made, which was that canikon has lost the biggest news gathering agency contracts to sony.

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May 24, 2023 at 03:09 PM

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I will respect you all whatever you are shooting with, even the fact that equipment is one of the important factors we deal with on daily basis in our jobs.

May 24, 2023 at 03:11 PM

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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · AF of 1D X III and A9 II for sports

canikon owners have this ongoing need to demean sony in the sports shooting space, it's been going on for years now.

but yeah, now that canikon finally has stacked sensor bodies, any of the big 3 brands could do the job, depending on the budget... sony is coming out with the first 300/2.8 milc lens ever made, and canon has that upcoming 100-300/2.8, which i think is probably a more practical focal length for sports, over a prime.

May 24, 2023 at 03:20 PM

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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · AF of 1D X III and A9 II for sports

pulper11 wrote:
I'll just add this and then I'll not respond to anything else to honor your request:

Directly from the article that was linked:

"As for what this transition will look like for the hundreds of photographers and videographers across Gannett’s newsrooms, Scott says the transition to Sony will be a multi-year process, due to a number of factors. First, Scott says many of Gannett’s newsrooms ‘still have an extensive inventory of current equipment that is still functional, so it’s going to be a process of working through that equipment as it’s depreciated out.’"

The statement provided by osv2 made it appear that carl_g...Show more →

Pulper11 - I have that guy blocked. So not really sure what he is claiming that I am incorrect about but know this, he is an obnoxious troll on this website. Just go look at his posts in the Sony and Nikon forums. So many people have him blocked, he basically argues with himself at this point.

Anyway, I know and work with a lot of people who work for USA Today, AP, & Getty. Out of the 4 people that I know who work for USAToday, 2 shoot Canon and 2 use, ready for this? Gasp! Nikon. The people I know from the AP, 2 shoot Canon and one Sony. Getty is the same thing its a mixed bag and these professionals all produce great material used daily in the media regardless of what focus motors are put into the lenses.

I was just using that as a reference for Allthink, since he is already invested in the Canon system.

Good luck with your decision

I'm done.

Regards,
Carl

May 25, 2023 at 02:12 PM

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carl_g wrote:
Anyway, I know and work with a lot of people who work for USA Today, AP, & Getty. Out of the 4 people that I know who work for USAToday, 2 shoot Canon and 2 use, ready for this? Gasp! Nikon. The people I know from the AP, 2 shoot Canon and one Sony.

sony won the a.p. contract over canikon back in 2020, so a.p. staffers are shooting sony:

https://www.ap.org/press-releases/2020/ap-to-equip-all-visual-journalists-globally-with-sony-imaging-products

carl_g wrote:
Getty is the same thing its a mixed bag and these professionals all produce great material used daily in the media regardless of what focus motors are put into the lenses.

just another insecure canikon owner, trolling new technology.

nikon says that linear voice coil motors are better, but hey you are the expert, lmao:

"The speed and silence of Silky Swift VCM.
Nikon’s new Silky Swift Voice Coil Motor (VCM) uses magnets instead of gears to move the lens focus groups. This design simultaneously delivers higher initial speed, higher accuracy and the smoothest, most silent operation of any Nikon AF drive system. Additionally, vibration within the mechanism has been reduced with an innovative guide bar and minimal space between moving parts, allowing for maximum speed during autofocus." https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-lenses/nikkor-z-400mm-f%252f2.8-tc-vr-s.html

May 26, 2023 at 12:17 PM

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