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Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

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p.66 #1 · p.66 #1 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

The problem I have is that I cannot see the boxes.... and I cannot discern red from green or even see either of them in most natural backgrounds. Literally, I cannot even see any red or green box. I have requested in writing to Nikon that an upcoming firmware offer the Focus Peaking colors as an option for people who have this color deficiency. That would be fantastic for me.

https://youtu.be/3Wxo10LQZUc?t=1339

Jul 15, 2023 at 02:54 PM

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p.66 #2 · p.66 #2 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

sport wrote:
https://i.postimg.cc/vT7Cc9GD/screenshot-465.jpg

https://youtu.be/3Wxo10LQZUc?t=1339

Thank you for posting this Sport.

Steve Perry is talking strictly about using Focus Peaking in manual focus mode (MF).

Oh, my mistake: I did not clarify in my post that I need those FP colors *when in AF mode*. I have asked Nikon to add an option that will allow the photographer to change the existing red and green pastel boxes to any one of the 4 Focus Peaking colors ....... at any time. And it would be a feather in Nikon's cap because they would be the first to offer this feature to a handicap group. Daltonism is a handicap

Thanks again for responding.

Jul 15, 2023 at 03:36 PM

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p.66 #3 · p.66 #3 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

bs kite wrote:
And it would be a feather in Nikon's cap because they would be the first to offer this feature to a handicap group. Daltonism is a handicap

Thanks again for responding.

Sony has already offered this is some models for years I believe Robert, so Nikon would not be the first.

But I agree with you Robert, this should be a standard feature in all cameras from all manufacturers. It seem like a relatively simple piece of coding to do. It was added by Sony in firmware to the A9, so it can be done. If it can be done with focus peaking it should be able to be done with AF focus boxes also.

Jul 15, 2023 at 05:42 PM

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p.66 #4 · p.66 #4 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

1bwana1 wrote:
Sony has already offered this is some models for years I believe Robert, so Nikon would not be the first.

But I agree with you Robert, this should be a standard feature in all cameras from all manufacturers. It seem like a relatively simple piece of coding to do. It was added by Sony in firmware to the A9, so it can be done. If it can be done with focus peaking it should be able to be done with AF focus boxes also.

Let's hope that Nikon includes it in a future firmware upgrade.

Jul 17, 2023 at 05:20 AM

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p.66 #5 · p.66 #5 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

bs kite wrote:
Thank you for posting this Sport.

Steve Perry is talking strictly about using Focus Peaking in manual focus mode (MF).

Oh, my mistake: I did not clarify in my post that I need those FP colors *when in AF mode*. I have asked Nikon to add an option that will allow the photographer to change the existing red and green pastel boxes to any one of the 4 Focus Peaking colors ....... at any time. And it would be a feather in Nikon's cap because they would be the first to offer this feature to a handicap group. Daltonism is...Show more →

Yes, I knew what you were talking about as peaking does not come in boxes. I hope you get your wish, it would seem to be a simple update. A lot of people don't see greens or reds very well if at all. Christmas must be very different for you...

Jul 17, 2023 at 12:54 PM

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p.66 #6 · p.66 #6 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

That's funny and it never occurred to me.

Jul 17, 2023 at 01:05 PM

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p.66 #7 · p.66 #7 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

Max Power wrote:
Yes, I knew what you were talking about as peaking does not come in boxes. I hope you get your wish, it would seem to be a simple update. A lot of people don't see greens or reds very well if at all. Christmas must be very different for you...

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It's true that a lot of people do not see greens or reds very well at all.

I think they will probably go ahead with the change, and probably soon.

I think a lot of people will enjoy the option to change any of those boxes to bright yellow, bright blue or bright white.

I've not closed the case (request) in my Nikon account. I've kept it open and gently add another mention of it. I just tell them the truth. If the background is vegetation I cannot even see the focusing boxes, never mind differentiating between the red and green.

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Jul 17, 2023 at 01:22 PM

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p.66 #8 · p.66 #8 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

Just orders a Angelbird 160GB AV PRO CFexpress 2.0 Type B SX and the Angelbird CFexpress Card Reader MK2

If it is real that good as the reviews say, i buy a bigger one later.

Ad the moment still finding out how it al works.
Did not expect a learn curve this big coming from a D5.
But Damn that autofocus is a beast, all the options just work.
Need to find the one that works the best for me.

Oh, and i did set burstrate to 15, well 20 is a card filler ad the moment.

I have a XQD sony 64 gb.

Jul 17, 2023 at 01:30 PM

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p.66 #9 · p.66 #9 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

The numbers don't add up to a major problem at this point, but to be safe it may be better to use a RRS "L" Bracket (or equivalent) and secure your straps to that just to be safe.

If using really big heavy lenses the proper strap attachment is to the lens, not the camera. I see too many people doing this wrong on all brands.

https://nikonrumors.com/2023/07/17/several-nikon-z8-owners-report-separated-broken-strap-lugs.aspx/

Jul 17, 2023 at 05:44 PM

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p.66 #10 · p.66 #10 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

I replaced my Sony 100-400 lens foot with a Kirk Replacement Foot. I also bought a Kirk QD Oval. I attach my Peak Design Anchors to the Oval. This allows the camera and lens to sit horizontaly on my side using the Peak Design Slide Light. Got this idea from Mark Galer who basically does the same thing with the 200-600.
1bwana1 wrote:
The numbers don't add up to a major problem at this point, but to be safe it may be better to use a RRS "L" Bracket (or equivalent) and secure your straps to that just to be safe.

If using really big heavy lenses the proper strap attachment is to the lens, not the camera. I see too many people doing this wrong on all brands.

https://nikonrumors.com/2023/07/17/several-nikon-z8-owners-report-separated-broken-strap-lugs.aspx/

Jul 19, 2023 at 03:20 PM

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p.66 #11 · p.66 #11 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

1bwana1 wrote:
The numbers don't add up to a major problem at this point, but to be safe it may be better to use a RRS "L" Bracket (or equivalent) and secure your straps to that just to be safe.

If using really big heavy lenses the proper strap attachment is to the lens, not the camera. I see too many people doing this wrong on all brands.

https://nikonrumors.com/2023/07/17/several-nikon-z8-owners-report-separated-broken-strap-lugs.aspx/

I saw someone the other day hanging a Z 600/4 TC from their Z8, all supported by the strap/camera lugs and of course the mount. Made me cringe. I chatted with him for a bit and tried to gently suggest he use the lens foot, but the store he got it from told him it was fine because the mounts are rated for 50lbs - only a matter of time before something bad happens to all that nice gear!

Jul 19, 2023 at 03:27 PM

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p.66 #12 · p.66 #12 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

Ugh! Probably a new guy at the store who thinks he knows it all. Sad.

CanadaMark wrote:
I saw someone the other day hanging a Z 600/4 TC from their Z8, all supported by the strap/camera lugs and of course the mount. Made me cringe. I chatted with him for a bit and tried to gently suggest he use the lens foot, but the store he got it from told him it was fine because the mounts are rated for 50lbs - only a matter of time before something bad happens to all that nice gear!

Jul 19, 2023 at 04:01 PM

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p.66 #13 · p.66 #13 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

I've always used my lugs for lenses up to 100-400 without a 2nd thought. Just another thing to worry about with this plasticy Z8.

Jul 19, 2023 at 04:09 PM

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p.66 #14 · p.66 #14 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

Big surprise.
i get al lot more shots on one battry then expected.

i did even shot some video

in total

Photo in raw. (+/- 52MB)
video in H265 10 bit .mov N-log 120p
Did set all the battery save option i did find, except the viewfinder that did i keep on 120refresh rate.
Fps was set to 15 fps and i did use short burst rate around the 3 to 12 shots. with shutter speeds not lower the 1/320e
Card used: Angelbird 160GB AVpro CFexpress SX Type B 1785MB/s
Great card with a friendly price.
it shoot nraw 8k 60P with no problem/s

Jul 20, 2023 at 02:20 AM

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p.66 #15 · p.66 #15 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

DandL wrote:
If you can afford a Z9 you can afford 2 CF Express cards.

Kinda... they're still expensive as heck. Why pay if you can... not pay?

On the flip side... my SD card reader in the laptop ceased to work for some reason (contact oxidation?), so the point has been rendered null and void.

Jul 24, 2023 at 05:07 AM

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p.66 #16 · p.66 #16 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

RoamingScott wrote:
I've always used my lugs for lenses up to 100-400 without a 2nd thought. Just another thing to worry about with this plasticy Z8.

From the photos I've seen it looks like the pin holding the base of the strap lugs weren't even inserted on some of the failures... meaning the lug wasn't even secured to anything but the plastic!

Jul 24, 2023 at 05:59 AM

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p.66 #17 · p.66 #17 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

BPsmith511 wrote:
From the photos I've seen it looks like the pin holding the base of the strap lugs weren't even inserted on some of the failures... meaning the lug wasn't even secured to anything but the plastic!

Would you please provide a link to the photo(s).?

Or maybe you could post a closeup photo of this spot you are referring to.

Thanks
Robert

Jul 24, 2023 at 09:30 AM

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p.66 #18 · p.66 #18 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

bs kite wrote:

Would you please provide a link to the photo(s).?

Or maybe you could post a closeup photo of this spot you are referring to.

Thanks
Robert

Clearest pic i've seen is the Nikon Rumors Post, however to be fair it's possible the pin could still be rattling inside the body and people haven't noticed yet. But there's clearly a spot for a safety hold pin that is not there.

Jul 24, 2023 at 11:20 AM

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p.66 #19 · p.66 #19 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

Hoping for some help from those who have a lot of experience with the Z8/Z9 AF in comparison to the Z6ii if possible.....specifically for action / moving portraits but not necessarily BIF. I have a D500, Z6ii and a Z7. The Z8 really interests me for many reasons.....but the financially-mindful part of me is holding back because the big gain would be the cAF improvement and I'm not really sure how much of a benefit it will be for my shooting. I like bird photography but I do very little of it. I will likely find myself doing more sports photography if anything and that would be my real reason for a Z8. With that said, my Z6ii does very well with slower action (kids sports, parades, etc) and so I'm wondering if beyond all of the YT hype if the Z8 makes that much of a meaningful difference over the Z6ii for sports photography (thinking tennis, hockey, soccer, football, running, maybe cycling and swimming.....not motor sports). I want a more modern sensor than the D500 for any fast-moving photography when I'm not in a kayak. Here's my current setup:

D500 - I'm keeping this for kayaking as I can't afford to drop a Z8 and a Z lens in the water, plus I want the pixel density. I don't trust the Z7 AF in a moving kayak for telephoto lenses.

Z6ii - I'm keeping because I simply like the smaller files for portraits and low-light photography. The keeper rate in kids sports and parades is enough to justify keeping it (it does well for the most part).

Z7 - perfect for landscapes, urban, travel and stationary portraits. I like the small size of the body but this may be the trade off for a Z8.

In a perfect world I would buy the Z8 and keep the rest too, but I think I would sell the Z7 for the Z8. I'm not sure if the AF gain with the Z8 (over the Z6ii) for sports photography and moving portraits would justify the cost difference and losing the convenient size of the Z7 for landscapes though.

Thanks for your thoughts. I realize this is a very personal decision and picking up a Z8 for myself is the way to go but while I'm waiting to find a Z8 to try I'm hoping for some early feedback from others. Ultimately I'll of course put one in my hands for a final decision. Thanks for your thoughts!

Jul 27, 2023 at 11:58 PM

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p.66 #20 · p.66 #20 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

How much something is worth to another person is impossible to judge. I don't quite understand how we are to answer your question. If you think about those situations where the Z6 II was not able to keep the subject in focus, and if all those shots were in fact in focus without any significant effort from the photographer, what would it be worth to you?

The Z8 also adds a near real-time viewfinder which to me is much more significant as it reduces the need to overshoot because the shot timing is off from what is seen in the viewfinder (which is the case with the Z6 II). With the Z8 you can more easily get intended shots based on what you see in the viewfinder.

Jul 28, 2023 at 12:42 AM

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