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ilkka_nissila wrote:
>A single bum unit just isn’t a factor unless a bunch of others also join in to complain that they too experienced the issues you did.
My point was really that some people claim a product is the best quality ever but don't actually have any data, it's their feeling and personal experience which they generalize.
My D850 didn't take 2 years to develop a bad power circuit, it happened in weeks from mounting the grip the first time and the repair shop already knew what the fault was (a circuit inside the camera which takes the power from the vertical grip and regulates it for the camera) because they had seen this problem before. This was in May 2018. Since the service people in a small country were familiar with the problem in a new camera model, it was clearly not an isolated case. Even if it had been just my camera and grip, I would still consider it a quality problem.
In my experience the single-digit Nikons have better tactile response in many of the controls especially the multi-function pad. I have several of both types of cameras and it's a different implementation, and not a statistical anomaly. The D6, D5 etc. multicontroller resists being depressed and once the force is great enough, it goes in and you can feel it in the finger when the action has been taken in by the camera. On the Z8, D850 etc the multi-controller doesn't give a clear indication of when it has been pressed (there is no sudden drop in resistance) and it's harder to know how many steps the focus area has moved, for example, by touch, without looking. I find this very irritating and an example of poor mechanical design. With the single-digit bodies it is easier to control the camera by feel rather than combining motor action with vision which is necessary to know what is happeing with the D850 and similar cameras when using the multi-controller.
In my opinion these are real factors that influence how easy it is to use a camera when using it every day. When someone uses a camera only occasionally, they might not care about these things. (Sometimes I wonder if the people posting actually do take pictures or not.)
With regards to Toyota, if there is a fault on one car that causes the death of its passengers, would you then consider it a quality problem or just the cost of doing business? Where does a fault then become significant enough to be a QC issue?
If we're not allowed to voice our experiences (due to the forum members behaving like fans in a football match), how would people know if a problem is widespread or not?
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(there is no sudden drop in resistance) and it's harder to know how many steps the focus area has moved, for example, by touch, without looking.
If you aren't looking at the buttons aren't you looking through viewfinder ? This doesn't make sense , you would see it move if you're not paying attention to how many presses you make.
No product is perfect, they all have issues if used hard enough .. remember the first few Sony A7/A7R models.. have you seen one of those displays over time ?
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