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Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!

  
 
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p.43 #1 · p.43 #1 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


I have a bit of news. My Z8 shows up this morning. Now the work begins.

I do welcome suggestions from any of you.




Jun 06, 2023 at 06:51 AM
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bs kite wrote:
I have a bit of news. My Z8 shows up this morning. Now the work begins.

I do welcome suggestions from any of you.



I like Henry's videos



congrats on the new camera



Jun 06, 2023 at 07:48 AM
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bs kite wrote:
I have a bit of news. My Z8 shows up this morning. Now the work begins.


Congrats .. Looking forward to your images here.



Jun 06, 2023 at 08:32 AM
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bs kite wrote:
I have a bit of news. My Z8 shows up this morning. Now the work begins.

I do welcome suggestions from any of you.



Congratulations Robert! The new camera day has finally come. May it bring you many years of enjoyable photography. I am looking forward to seeing reports on your adventures.

Steve



Jun 06, 2023 at 08:40 AM
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bs kite wrote:
I have a bit of news. My Z8 shows up this morning. Now the work begins.

I do welcome suggestions from any of you.



Charge the battery.



Jun 06, 2023 at 08:53 AM
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saaketham wrote:
Congrats .. Looking forward to your images here.


Thank you.




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1bwana1 wrote:
Congratulations Robert! The new camera day has finally come. May it bring you many years of enjoyable photography. I am looking forward to seeing reports on your adventures.

Steve


Thank you




Jun 06, 2023 at 08:58 AM
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JustShootMe wrote:
I like Henry's videos



congrats on the new camera


Thank you

While I wait, I have been going through the tedium of the Z8 Reference Guide. I will look at Hudson's setup guide again, right now.




Jun 06, 2023 at 09:03 AM
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bs kite wrote:
Just hide him.

That's what I've done too.

He's trouble.



I hope you're not referring to ME. I simply wanted to pass on a statement a friend who happens to be a sensor engineer stated. I rather like the idea when a focus system is competent enough you don't have to get into menus to get them to work personally. But what has been inferred by some reviewers is the Nikon approach supposedly provides the user more "control" over the process. I suppose that may be true want it or not. Several reviewers I watched on Youtube lately have changed their mind regarding the capabilities of the Z9/Z8 autofocus reliability stating they now miss near NONE of their shots and one even stated it was the BEST to date now exceeding his results with Canon and Sony. Forgive me if somehow it rubbed you the wrong way.



Jun 06, 2023 at 11:51 AM
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dcisive wrote:
I hope you're not referring to ME. I simply wanted to pass on a statement a friend who happens to be a sensor engineer stated. I rather like the idea when a focus system is competent enough you don't have to get into menus to get them to work personally. But what has been inferred by some reviewers is the Nikon approach supposedly provides the user more "control" over the process. I suppose that may be true want it or not. Several reviewers I watched on Youtube lately have changed their mind regarding the capabilities of the Z9/Z8 autofocus reliability
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Oh no.... I was not referring to you at all. I apologize for the confusion. I should have clarified that.

I was commenting *to* you, encouraging/asking you to just hide duncang, so to avoid any haggling.






Jun 06, 2023 at 01:18 PM
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>A single bum unit just isnít a factor unless a bunch of others also join in to complain that they too experienced the issues you did.

My point was really that some people claim a product is the best quality ever but don't actually have any data, it's their feeling and personal experience which they generalize.

My D850 didn't take 2 years to develop a bad power circuit, it happened in weeks from mounting the grip the first time and the repair shop already knew what the fault was (a circuit inside the camera which takes the power from the vertical grip and regulates it for the camera) because they had seen this problem before. This was in May 2018. Since the service people in a small country were familiar with the problem in a new camera model, it was clearly not an isolated case. Even if it had been just my camera and grip, I would still consider it a quality problem.

In my experience the single-digit Nikons have better tactile response in many of the controls especially the multi-function pad. I have several of both types of cameras and it's a different implementation, and not a statistical anomaly. The D6, D5 etc. multicontroller resists being depressed and once the force is great enough, it goes in and you can feel it in the finger when the action has been taken in by the camera. On the Z8, D850 etc the multi-controller doesn't give a clear indication of when it has been pressed (there is no sudden drop in resistance) and it's harder to know how many steps the focus area has moved, for example, by touch, without looking. I find this very irritating and an example of poor mechanical design. With the single-digit bodies it is easier to control the camera by feel rather than combining motor action with vision which is necessary to know what is happeing with the D850 and similar cameras when using the multi-controller.

In my opinion these are real factors that influence how easy it is to use a camera when using it every day. When someone uses a camera only occasionally, they might not care about these things. (Sometimes I wonder if the people posting actually do take pictures or not.)

With regards to Toyota, if there is a fault on one car that causes the death of its passengers, would you then consider it a quality problem or just the cost of doing business? Where does a fault then become significant enough to be a QC issue?

If we're not allowed to voice our experiences (due to the forum members behaving like fans in a football match), how would people know if a problem is widespread or not?



Jun 06, 2023 at 02:00 PM
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p.43 #12 · p.43 #12 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!


ilkka_nissila wrote:
>A single bum unit just isnít a factor unless a bunch of others also join in to complain that they too experienced the issues you did.

My point was really that some people claim a product is the best quality ever but don't actually have any data, it's their feeling and personal experience which they generalize.

My D850 didn't take 2 years to develop a bad power circuit, it happened in weeks from mounting the grip the first time and the repair shop already knew what the fault was (a circuit inside the camera which takes the power from the vertical
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(there is no sudden drop in resistance) and it's harder to know how many steps the focus area has moved, for example, by touch, without looking.

If you aren't looking at the buttons aren't you looking through viewfinder ? This doesn't make sense , you would see it move if you're not paying attention to how many presses you make.

No product is perfect, they all have issues if used hard enough .. remember the first few Sony A7/A7R models.. have you seen one of those displays over time ?



Jun 06, 2023 at 02:29 PM
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