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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


mcbroomf wrote:
I usually see blotchiness on even blue skies with Topaz as well. Adobe AI denoise doing well below, and equally or a little better on the very fine detail.

ISO 12800

Topaz
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52785586351_8e8bc0c6e5_k.jpg_A118529-2 by Mike Broomfield, on Flickr

PS AI Denoise (not cropped or perfectly matched)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52826837662_93b0fb2ea3_k.jpgBlack Falcon plane and inflateable_A118529-Enhanced-NR-1 by Mike Broomfield, on Flickr

Compare detail Topaz left, Adobe right
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52827412201_b54c443ebb_k.jpgPS-Topaz AI Denoise by Mike Broomfield, on Flickr



Topaz Colour was getting better back in LrC but last weeks update has a yellow tint, which I reported. DXO comes back very close and the big thing is Adobe Denoise is bang on. I like that.



Apr 18, 2023 at 11:22 AM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


mcbroomf wrote:
Looks like my GPU is incompatible. Errors in both LRC and PS. Nvidia P2000 (5GB). Pretty old and slow these days (or is that me ... ?)


The Smithsonian called, they want your graphics card! My CPU is way better than my GPU - in PureRaw 2 I was able to get my CPU to do all the heavy lifting (and quickly) however when I upgraded it doesn't seem possible. I guess I should start looking too.



Apr 18, 2023 at 11:27 AM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


Not too bad for the first release




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Apr 18, 2023 at 11:29 AM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


corposant wrote:
The Smithsonian called, they want your graphics card! My CPU is way better than my GPU - in PureRaw 2 I was able to get my CPU to do all the heavy lifting (and quickly) however when I upgraded it doesn't seem possible. I guess I should start looking too.


No kidding and I don't think it's worthwhile doing a GPU upgrade. The motherboard I have for the 7000 series i7 CPU won't take a current model GPU though I could do better than the P2000. I've been looking at Mac Studio refurbs but really prefer Windows for dual screen and my preferred use (and my MBP is on a dual setup, so I have been using it). Still TBD ...



Apr 18, 2023 at 11:34 AM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


Wow. Now you can push Texture, Sharpening and Detail so much more. This is my favourite test file from 2020. ISO 16,000 with my R.

NN by MPC, on Flickr

New acronym? ADN?

DN by MPC, on Flickr

_N4A3907-Enhanced-NR by MPC, on Flickr



Apr 18, 2023 at 11:56 AM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


I made a mistake in my last post. Had the comma in the wrong spot. ISO 16,000 with my R.


Apr 18, 2023 at 12:12 PM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


I did a quick comparison with the latest Adobe AI Denoise release and the DxO DeepPRIME XD on an image of ISO 3200 from the original Canon 5D (note that ISO 3200 was pushing it on that great body).

DxO DeepPRIME comes out a hair ahead with better detail retention. But for a first cut, Adobe's performance is unbelievably good.

Let the Games begin!




Apr 18, 2023 at 01:00 PM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


Julieanne Kost is a great teacher and this video is almost a must-view with plenty of how, do's and don'ts for Denoise

https://jkost.com/blog/2023/04/denoise-and-masking-updates-in-adobe-camera-raw-v15-3.html

https://jkost.com/blog/2023/04/denoise-masking-and-edit-in-photoshop-updates-in-lightroom-classic-v12-3.html




Apr 18, 2023 at 01:04 PM
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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


Some interesting comments from Adobe in their blog on this release

https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2023/04/18/denoise-demystified

"Wed like to support additional file formats and combine Denoise with Super Resolution. Were even looking into ways to speed up the workflow by not needing to make a new DNG file."



Apr 18, 2023 at 01:19 PM
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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


An overview of the changes in PS/LR today
https://petapixel.com/2023/04/18/adobe-lightroom-adds-new-ai-innovations-and-improved-masking/



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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


mcbroomf wrote:
Julieanne Kost is a great teacher and this video is almost a must-view with plenty of how, do's and don'ts for Denoise

https://jkost.com/blog/2023/04/denoise-and-masking-updates-in-adobe-camera-raw-v15-3.html

https://jkost.com/blog/2023/04/denoise-masking-and-edit-in-photoshop-updates-in-lightroom-classic-v12-3.html



Julieanne is my reliable go-to person for all Lightroom.



Apr 18, 2023 at 02:44 PM
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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


I wonder if this can be applied to photos taken in JPG format - my friend uses JPG exclusively.

I'll have to do some experimenting...



Apr 18, 2023 at 03:31 PM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


Tom_W wrote:
I wonder if this can be applied to photos taken in JPG format - my friend uses JPG exclusively.

I'll have to do some experimenting...


Does not look like it. Using LRC, in the Detail panel for a jpg I get "Denoise is not currently compatible with this photo format"



Apr 18, 2023 at 03:43 PM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


Rajan Parrikar wrote:
I did a quick comparison with the latest Adobe AI Denoise release and the DxO DeepPRIME XD on an image of ISO 3200 from the original Canon 5D (note that ISO 3200 was pushing it on that great body).

DxO DeepPRIME comes out a hair ahead with better detail retention. But for a first cut, Adobe's performance is unbelievably good.

Let the Games begin!



I only have PureRaw 2 which I removed off my OS today. A new era starts.



Apr 18, 2023 at 03:55 PM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


hoodlum90 wrote:
Some interesting comments from Adobe in their blog on this release

https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2023/04/18/denoise-demystified

"Wed like to support additional file formats and combine Denoise with Super Resolution. Were even looking into ways to speed up the workflow by not needing to make a new DNG file."


That this is their first release of it is really impressive. They are already exceeding Topaz quality at roughly the same time cost. This is a great development.



Apr 18, 2023 at 04:01 PM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


mcbroomf wrote:
Does not look like it. Using LRC, in the Detail panel for a jpg I get "Denoise is not currently compatible with this photo format"


I'm seeing that too. She shoots with a pair of Nikon D7200 bodies, which I think has dual card slots. Maybe I can convince her to put JPG on one and RAW on the other - just in case. Seeing the difference this is making, I think it's well worth it. Then again, I've been shooting RAW for 2 decades now.



Apr 18, 2023 at 04:13 PM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


Another example, actually 2 different images.

The first image is basically what I got with the camera, downsized and converted to JPG for posting. Very dark, shot in auto exposure, camera was fooled by the bright background and I didn't take the time to adjust as it was a tour and I didn't want to block others from seeing the mare with her new foal.

The second image is sequentially the next image, but I adjusted exposure, levels, white balance, even transformed to straighten the image. As you may have guessed, with the amount of exposure and level adjustment, the picture got very ugly very fast.

Enter the new de-noising function...

Wow! No, I don't think I'd blow it up and put it on the wall, but it made a huge difference and I can at least Facebook-share it and text it to friends.




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Apr 18, 2023 at 04:18 PM
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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


Hopefully, the second image will show up. Otherwise, I'll repost it here...


Second image....




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Apr 18, 2023 at 04:20 PM
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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


I understand 'levels' can now work on masks, but in this release of 12.3, did Adobe enable presets to applied to masked portions of the image? i.e. so one can have one preset for a background and a different one for the foreground .




Apr 18, 2023 at 04:49 PM
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p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · Lightroom Classic AI Denoise (12.3)


Crazy to hear some of the processing times here. I have a pretty powerful machine, but it's taking me about 4-5 seconds on 24MP files, and 7-8 or so on 45MP files. i7-12700K, GeForce 3080 Ti.


Apr 18, 2023 at 05:27 PM
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