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Archive 2023 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

There's a surprising number of ProFoto shooters here, and I wanted to explore the idea of sharing modifier experiences.

What is everyone using at weddings ?

Mar 14, 2023 at 03:32 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

We shoot with B10's and the A1. A gridded Rotalux 27" deep octa on the B10's for quicker setups or handheld seems our most popular setup. The round dome diffuser or bounce on the A1 has been our go to modifier for dance/receptions while using the Profoto connect for handholding or up on a stand. We haven't used any other Clic modifiers except for the grids on the A1. We use the B10's on stands for larger group photos with a couple of silver Westcott 43" Apollo umbrellas that are surprisingly good at throwing light for group photos. Although, we'll probably go for the white version next. Westcott Apollo has excellent build quality too and is as good as Profoto, albeit, less expensive. We'll rent the A2 and a few Clic adapters this season to fill in gaps where needed for lighting. Profoto is getting creative with its A series modifiers such as the Magnum reflector that boosts the light by 1.8 stops. Hoping all have a successful wedding season!

Mar 15, 2023 at 08:44 AM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

Due to time (as in none) and wind (Rocky Mountain west) I'm limited on modifier use but I'm trying to work more in.

ALWAYS

Joe Demb flip-it PJ on-camera A10
OCF Barn doors on B10s, CLIC barn door on stand-mounted A10

SOMETIMES

10 and 30 degree grids on B10, 20 degree grid on stand-mounted A10
Fun color gel holders with a selection red, blue & purple for all the lights

NEVER (might need to unload)

ProFoto OCF Magnum reflector - usually only get it out when shooting in bright sun
Westcott 32" shoot through umbrellas - should've used 'em more for indoor groups this Winter

NEW (trying them out)

Westcott Rapid Switch Octa-S for OCF
ProFoto Softlight Reflector Dish (made for classic ProFoto heads - I've converted for OCF mount)

My goal for 2023 is to find my zen for softening light for portraits. Wish me luck.

Mar 15, 2023 at 10:57 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

Another modifier I'd like to try is the Westcott Rapid Box Switch Lantern. It's 360 spread might just soften the direction of standard modifiers while giving a nice catch light too.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1666023-REG/westcott_4726_rapid_box_switch_20.html

Mar 15, 2023 at 07:40 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

Not sure I would want that huge globe thing at a wedding. Yikes.

Why not just throw up a large panel LED. same thing. Light everywhere.

Mar 15, 2023 at 11:07 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

I do 3-4x B10Xs for OCF and A1s for on-camera.

I have the OCF II snap-ons with CTO + 1/2 CTOs for each of the B10Xs, and I use the CTO or 1/2 CTOs when necessary for the A1s.

Mar 19, 2023 at 10:11 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

Peter, do you run color correction filters for all your interior shooting?

Mar 20, 2023 at 10:44 AM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

LeeSimms wrote:
Peter, do you run color correction filters for all your interior shooting?

It depends on the venue. If the entire venue lights and ambient are incandescent I'll CTO or 1/2 CTO so I don't have to do much for WB in post. I always shoot in Kelvin + manual so my post processing time is quicker.

Mar 20, 2023 at 10:36 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

MazeRunner wrote:
It depends on the venue. If the entire venue lights and ambient are incandescent I'll CTO or 1/2 CTO so I don't have to do much for WB in post. I always shoot in Kelvin + manual so my post processing time is quicker.

On a cloudy day, when we sometimes want a warmer tone, using a CTB and setting to ambient works, but use a CTO for more drama at dusk when set to ambient. Clic gels are perfect for this.

Mar 21, 2023 at 09:00 AM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

johnld wrote:
On a cloudy day, when we sometimes want a warmer tone, using a CTB and setting to ambient works, but use a CTO for more drama at dusk when set to ambient. Clic gels are perfect for this.

That also! I have the different colored gels for my B10Xs as well, but I didn't get the colored gels for my A1s--just have the CTO + 1/2s for those.

Mar 21, 2023 at 09:19 AM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

I've been running the OCF Magnum with a diffusion sock at the end — I dig the look

May 21, 2023 at 05:30 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

One B10+ with OCF Magnum and diffusion sock (shooting in M - I dialed in what I wanted and let the flash in TTL do its thing)

Canon EOS R6 RF85mm F1.2 L USM lens 85mm f/2.8 1/200s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

Aug 14, 2023 at 09:26 AM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

+1 for the Clic CTOs. I have 1/4 & 1/2. I cut a bunch of circles out of a sheet of CTO gel and stack them under the clic as needed. I normally use between 1/4 & 3/4, WB at 4000k and start there. Same for the formals inside churches, super tungsten most of the time... I can't remember an event where I haven't needed them indoors at the church or reception... I am surprised at how many good photographers I shoot events with who don't gel their lights!! Daylight flash with indoor tungsten backgrounds.... yuck!

On a side note. Do you guys use 9 or 12 foot stands for your Profoto lights (staying on topic sort of).

And has anyone tried the Magnum Clic or the Fresnel Click to gain power/reduce recycle? Sometimes I try to put an A1 further off the dance floor to keep it out of the way but have to jack up the power which kills my recycle/adds to overheating... The fresnel is tiny so I might try it out. Both have a 35ish degree spread so its semi tight...

Sep 18, 2023 at 06:19 PM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

12's on B10+'s
9's on A10's

Sep 18, 2023 at 08:42 PM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

LeeSimms wrote:
ALWAYS

Joe Demb flip-it PJ on-camera A10

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"After 26 years operating Demb Flash Products, we have decided to retire from our business. We will no longer be manufacturing or shipping products.

We want to thank our customers for their support and wish the best of luck to all of you in your photographic endeavors.

Sincerely,

Joe and Sue Demb"
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I just went to get another as backup and I couldn't find them online...? These were my favorite and I use them every event!! I had a few different ones...

Sep 19, 2023 at 07:24 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

I've been using an Elinchrome Rotalux for years. Absolutely love that thing. Big, soft, lightweight, easy to assemble, and tons of lighting style options with feathering. I've eaten through three of them because I'm a little rough on gear, but they're my go-to modifier.

Sep 27, 2023 at 01:45 PM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

DannyBostwick wrote:
I've been using an Elinchrome Rotalux for years. Absolutely love that thing. Big, soft, lightweight, easy to assemble, and tons of lighting style options with feathering. I've eaten through three of them because I'm a little rough on gear, but they're my go-to modifier.

Agree on the Rotalux. We use the deep 27 inch Octa for almost all our formals, but always leave it set up. Options like taking the diffusion off or adding a grid quickly are a bonus too. We also have the Profoto OCF 1x1 which isn't even close to the Elinchrom's build quality. You can't take the front diffusion off either. Same could be said for the interior baffle too, although it has the option. Just try to do it though. We've considered the Stella Pro for when the the B10's modeling light doesn't give enough fill for sunset photos without blowing out the ambient.

Sep 28, 2023 at 08:33 AM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

Danny, what size are you using for weddings? You're on the coast with wind — do you weigh with a sandbag?

Sep 28, 2023 at 12:27 PM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

I use the 53" Octabox, the shallow one. Yeah the wind is an issue sometimes. I'm lucky that I have a big strong second shooter or I would be up shits creek most times. I have used sandbags on the beach where I take an empty sandbag, fill it up on the beach and then dump it out so I don't have to lug it to and from the car which does make it a bit easier. Although anymore I'll just as soon shoot natural light and leave it all in the car. Laziness I guess.

That being said, the lions share of my venues. are inland a touch or in DC, Philly area. Far enough inland to not have to worry about it too much. But yeah, on the beach I don't even take it out of the car haha.

Oct 01, 2023 at 08:08 PM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · ProFoto B10 OCF A10 Clic modifier talk

Here's one from this weekend with the 53". The file looks super soft and shitty on this upload, but I gave up my Wordpress for Squarespace which doesn't give you embed links for message boards. But anyway, you get the picture. (Pun intended.)

Oct 01, 2023 at 08:13 PM

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