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I haven’t shot in a couple of years and foolishly sold everything off. So I’m starting to rebuild with my first step being the old pro camera a D4. Will I be happy? I guess the newest camera I shot was d500/810. I also used the DF for awhile and thoroughly enjoyed its IQ.

I left using Lightroom 4 but I noticed it’s subscription based now. Is it worth it? I hate subscription based stuff.


Mar 05, 2023 at 08:22 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Just Picked up a D4


The D4 is stilol a great csamera. Will you be happy with it? Only you can answer that. There have been dozens of conversations about PS & lightroom and how well they work. Some swear BY subscription programs and some swear AT them.
Mar 05, 2023 at 09:47 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Just Picked up a D4


I love the subscription base in adobe suite. No more paying $1k for the suite and be outdated in 2-3 years. The subscription is month to month and every new update or new tool, you get it right away.
I wish Nikon has such program so that I don’t get FOMO every time a new camera and lens roll out.
If you ask the camera question, you’re already feeling the FOMO.


Mar 05, 2023 at 10:07 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Just Picked up a D4


DXO PhotoLab is a one-time purchase of $219. It is a great program and will bring out the details of your lenses and RAW better than Adobe IMO. In particular, its lens profile corrections and Prime denoise are sublime. If a new version comes out, you can choose whether or not to upgrade - your old version will continue to work just fine. In that regard - your old Lightroom might support D4 files.

Enjoy your new D4!
Mar 06, 2023 at 08:09 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Just Picked up a D4


The D4 is a great camera, but the D500 had a better and more advanced autofocus system. You might be disappointed there.

As to the software, you can buy a perpetual license to Capture One. I firmly believe that it handles Nikon files better than LR, but sadly, there’s no replacement for Photoshop.


Mar 06, 2023 at 10:31 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Just Picked up a D4


runamuck wrote:
The D4 is stilol a great csamera. Will you be happy with it? Only you can answer that. There have been dozens of conversations about PS & lightroom and how well they work. Some swear BY subscription programs and some swear AT them.

the D4s was the real changling. it has better metering, faster operations, supported XQD capabilities (speed) better.

i do use PS and DXO. i do not use LR




  NIKON D4S    180mm    f/6.3    1/1250s    400 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D4S    300mm    f/6.3    1/1000s    400 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D4S    210mm    f/6.3    1/1600s    400 ISO    0.0 EV  



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Mar 06, 2023 at 12:50 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Just Picked up a D4


DXO PhotoLab is a one-time purchase of $219.

lets call that what it really is. it is the initial buy in. then approx $80 for upgrading to the next version and generally worth it. you do have the choice of skipping but i have found generally its upgrades are worth the price especially if you use it.

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Mar 06, 2023 at 12:56 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Just Picked up a D4


Tyr-Sog wrote:
I haven’t shot in a couple of years and foolishly sold everything off. So I’m starting to rebuild with my first step being the old pro camera a D4. Will I be happy? I guess the newest camera I shot was d500/810. I also used the DF for awhile and thoroughly enjoyed its IQ.

I left using Lightroom 4 but I noticed it’s subscription based now. Is it worth it? I hate subscription based stuff.

The last LR stand alone release was I believe version 6.14. When I bought it, it was so buried in the Adobe site, they really wanted you to subscribe. I searched long for it and found it. Not sure you can now though. Might be able to buy it through these links.

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/lightroom-6-end-of-support.html
Mar 06, 2023 at 03:46 PM
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sjms wrote:
lets call that what it really is. it is the initial buy in. then approx $80 for upgrading to the next version and worth it. you do have the choice of skipping but i have found generally its upgrades are worth the price especially if you use it.

That only matters when you buy a new camera that isn't supported by your current version of the software, but at least the DxO upgrades are reasonably priced (and they do let you just pay for the upgrade, instead of having to purchase a full new license like Capture One).
Mar 06, 2023 at 04:15 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Just Picked up a D4


like i said initial buy in aka: your first copy. after that it is your choice do the yearly upgrades. their interim updates include support for newer bodies as the have them available. after a time there are no additional updates for a version and that happens when the new upgrade shows up.

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Mar 06, 2023 at 04:20 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Just Picked up a D4


Tyr-Sog wrote:
I haven’t shot in a couple of years and foolishly sold everything off. So I’m starting to rebuild with my first step being the old pro camera a D4. Will I be happy? I guess the newest camera I shot was d500/810. I also used the DF for awhile and thoroughly enjoyed its IQ.

I left using Lightroom 4 but I noticed it’s subscription based now. Is it worth it? I hate subscription based stuff.

Hey man I remember you! welcome back. D4 is fantastic. Same sensor and great IQ as the Df. I loved that camera, but it's too big and heavy for me these days. Pair it up with the 85 1.4D and have fun!
Mar 06, 2023 at 05:57 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Just Picked up a D4


Damn it! I have worked hard trying to convince myself I really don't need this camera. I own a DF
with the same sensor and a D500 for rapid fire shooting. However my brain insists it likes the D4 sensor
rendering better. Ahhh, what to do, what to do
Mar 06, 2023 at 06:11 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Just Picked up a D4




traingoof wrote:
Damn it! I have worked hard trying to convince myself I really don't need this camera. I own a DF
with the same sensor and a D500 for rapid fire shooting. However my brain insists it likes the D4 sensor
rendering better. Ahhh, what to do, what to do
I have both, the D500 & D4, and have used them for professional & college sports. I prefer the files from the D4. The AF is still very good.



Mar 06, 2023 at 06:18 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Just Picked up a D4


The D4 was a great camera for it's time. If you've used a D500 though, the AF on the D500 is quite a bit better (same as the D5 and D850) . Whether or not you'll be happy depends entirely on your expectations If you're used to lots of cropping and/or big shadow pushes at ISO 64 from when you had a D810, the D4 may be a little disappointing there as well. The D4 was optimized for high ISO sports photography ~11 years ago - it's obviously still very capable but it's getting pretty long in the tooth and shows its age when compared to more recent cameras.

On the software side, if I were you, I would use DXO Pure RAW to handle the RAW conversion, and then use whatever program you prefer for the actual editing. DXO Photo Lab will do both (a good conversion and is a capable editor) if you end up liking that program as well. Unless there is a specific feature in Lightroom/PS that you need that isn't offered elsewhere, there is no need to pay for a subscription. My advice would just be to download the free trials and see for yourself what you prefer - Capture One, DXO, LR, etc.

After RAW conversion, I still use ACR / Photoshop because I am so used to it and I think it does the best job with advanced edits, but I would love to get away from the subscription model one day as well.
Mar 06, 2023 at 06:27 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Just Picked up a D4


D4




  NIKON D4    24.0-120.0 mm f/4.0 lens    52mm    f/8.0    1/320s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  
Mar 07, 2023 at 08:32 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Just Picked up a D4


Great camera.
https://images-pw.pixieset.com/elementfield/254488601/Nimage-734-519e0035.jpg
Mar 07, 2023 at 01:43 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Just Picked up a D4


D4:

https://prosophos.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/tbas-day-2-2-prosophos-nikon-d4-sigma-100-400mm.jpg


https://prosophos.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/tbas-day-1-5-prosophos-nikon-d4-sigma-100-400mm.jpg


https://prosophos.files.wordpress.com/2022/05/dsc_1334-1.jpg



Mar 07, 2023 at 02:31 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Just Picked up a D4


I think you will like your D4. I still have mine and even though I have newer cameras, I take it out quite frequently. The file size is attractive and I like the files it gives me. Of course, like all Nikon flagship bodies it feels wonderful in the hands. Used it for baseball the other day. Felt at home in my hands.

There are several PJs I know who went to Corel Paintshop Pro in protest of the subscription photoshop move. I think they pay less than $100.00 for it and upgrade every couple of years. I have not heard them complain. There is sure a lot of functionality in Photoshop that very few people use at all and others only very infrequently. You can check it out for free I think.

Good luck with your new D4. I know you will really like it. It is a great camera.


Mar 07, 2023 at 10:47 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Just Picked up a D4


D4 is fantastic


Mar 08, 2023 at 03:42 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Just Picked up a D4


Thank you all for the comments! The suggestions for the software is much appreciated. Same as the reassurance on the body.
If Lightroom’s UI is basically the same as it was with LR4 I may just get that subscription. I’d rather not learn a new system lol.

Now to rebuild my glass library.

Just picked up…
20 1.8g
50 1.4g
Mar 08, 2023 at 05:08 AM
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