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I tried to updated Denoise. It said invalid name or pw. I click ok and all it does is close the box. It does NOT give me a screen to change the PW. WTH? It is silly shit like this the gets me PO'd at topaz.


Feb 19, 2023 at 02:10 PM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · A few Topaz DeNoise AI questions


Did you go online and log into your account? You should see your eligible products and be able to D/L latest versions. You can recover the account if necessary.

EBH



Feb 19, 2023 at 02:14 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · A few Topaz DeNoise AI questions


You might want to give DxO's PureRAW a trial before shelling out for PhotoAI, which has de-noising incorporated into it. I prefer PureRAW even though I have used DeNoise and now PhotoAI for which I have a subscription for a few more months.


Feb 19, 2023 at 02:17 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · A few Topaz DeNoise AI questions


I tried that. I am afraid that if I changer pw in the main I will mess up denoise even further.


Feb 19, 2023 at 04:17 PM
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EB-1 wrote:
Did you go online and log into your account? You should see your eligible products and be able to D/L latest versions. You can recover the account if necessary.

EBH


This is exactly what he needs to do, whether he chooses to or not. I don't know of many apps that will let you change your password right at the login in the app so that's a bit much for him to complain about that.



Feb 19, 2023 at 05:28 PM
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EB-1 wrote:
Did you go online and log into your account? You should see your eligible products and be able to D/L latest versions. You can recover the account if necessary.

EBH


Kudos to EBH. I went to the accounts page and just downloaded and installed 2 updates. Both run. I am leery of PW changes because of problems with other sites. Most notably fb



Feb 19, 2023 at 08:14 PM
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RAW files from my 12mp D90 shot at ISO 3200 have plenty of noise to test denoise programs. Tonight I used Topaz DeNoise AI v3.7.1 on a file from Dec 2021 that I had previously used the then current Topaz DeNoise and Dxo Photolab 4.3.1 on for comparison. I can say today's DeNoise AI beats the DeNoise version active in Dec 2021, and both do better with noise than Photolab back then. (Probably pre-Prime and Deep Prime.)

For the month I've had DeNoise 3.7.1, I consistently get better results with the Low Light model than any of the other options, including RAW. (Though I feed it RAW files in any case.) I'm to the point where I just open a RAW file with DeNoise 3.7.1, select Low Light, output 100% quality jpeg, and sharpen the result with Topaz Sharpen AI.



Feb 19, 2023 at 09:32 PM
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I also got good results using the low light model. I ran an image (shot at 12,800) through ACR first, then sent it to DeNoise and used (if I remember correctly) low noise removal and low sharpening. Worked great (when I have time, I'll run it through as a NEF first, then to ACR and to Sharpen AI to see if there's much difference in the final result).



Feb 20, 2023 at 12:41 AM
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dallvr wrote:
You might want to give DxO's PureRAW a trial before shelling out for PhotoAI, which has de-noising incorporated into it. I prefer PureRAW even though I have used DeNoise and now PhotoAI for which I have a subscription for a few more months.


I would not purchase PureRaw 2 now. PureRaw 3 will be out next month. Who knows when but if you get it outside of the 30 version upgrade date DXO will not honour that. I'd hold off for now until V3 is announced.



Feb 20, 2023 at 04:00 AM
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runamuck wrote:
Kudos to EBH. I went to the accounts page and just downloaded and installed 2 updates. Both run. I am leery of PW changes because of problems with other sites. Most notably fb


Actually Topaz has been very responsive to my support requests. Photo AI did not have support for the R6II. I made a request and 10 days later it was there. LrC colour profile is Adobe Colour but files coming back from Photo AI were using Adobe Standard. I figured it should come back as the default and then users can pick their profile. I made a support request and the person who replied said they would pass that on to appropriate area. About 6 weeks later the profile was changed to Adobe Colour. I'm not sure any of those had anything to do with me but it was nice to see.

They have a bit more work to do but are very responsive on their forums. They have a road map.

https://community.topazlabs.com/t/photo-roadmap-update-feb-2023/39648

I might get PureRaw 3 when it comes out next month. There as been some chatter about artefacts showing up using DeepPrime XD but with PL6 you can tune lens sharpening. You can't using PureRaw. You can just turn it off. I'm curious to see what other adjustments PureRaw 3 will offer. I'm happy with PureRaw 2. I'll give Topaz a year and see where they are at when my renewal for Photo AI.



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Zenon Char wrote:
Actually Topaz has been very responsive to my support requests. Photo AI did not have support for the R6II. I made a request and 10 days later it was there. LrC colour profile is Adobe Colour but files coming back from Photo AI were using Adobe Standard. I figured it should come back as the default and then users can pick their profile. I made a support request and the person who replied said they would pass that on to appropriate area. About 6 weeks later the profile was changed to Adobe Colour. I'm not sure any of those
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A little bit off-topic, but do you have/use PhotoLab 6 and PureRaW?
If so what's the the benefit of having both. I always thought PureRaw is just a subset of PhotoLab (noise reduction and lens profiles)



Feb 20, 2023 at 05:23 AM
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Chris Dees wrote:
A little bit off-topic, but do you have/use PhotoLab 6 and PureRaW?
If so what's the the benefit of having both. I always thought PureRaw is just a subset of PhotoLab (noise reduction and lens profiles)


I do not have PL6. It was upgraded last October from PL5 to PL6 and has DeepPrime XD. XD is the new feature which is Extra Detail.

I have PureRaw 2 which only has DeepPrime. Annual upgrade cycle for PureRaw is March I suspect it will have DeepPrime XD.

The is no advantage to having both. PureRaw just offers NR and lens corrections. You can find that in PL6 plus everything else.

I only pointed that if someone buys PureRaw 2 today and PureRaw 3 comes out let's say March 25, you will have to pay for the upgrade to PureRaw 3. DXO gives you 30 days. If you purchase a product and it is within 30 days of the annual upgrade then you will get the upgrade. Outside of 30 days you don't get the upgrade. Same thing for PL. 30 days but that is not until fall.



Feb 20, 2023 at 10:28 AM
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Zenon Char wrote:
I do not have PL6. It was upgraded last October from PL5 to PL6 and has DeepPrime XD. XD is the new feature which is Extra Detail.

I have PureRaw 2 which only has DeepPrime. Annual upgrade cycle for PureRaw is March I suspect it will have DeepPrime XD.

The is no advantage to having both. PureRaw just offers NR and lens corrections. You can find that in PL6 plus everything else.

I only pointed that if someone buys PureRaw 2 today and PureRaw 3 comes out let's say March 25, you will have to pay for the upgrade
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Thanks, clear now. 😊



Feb 20, 2023 at 11:06 AM
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Chris Dees wrote:
Thanks, clear now. 😊


I opened DXO's site today and this is on the front page.









Mar 15, 2023 at 04:50 AM
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Itís out in Europe.


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Mar 15, 2023 at 10:10 AM
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Photolab 6.4 release as well with DeepPrime XD Fujifilm X-Trans cameras and compatible with the Nikon High-Efficiency


Mar 15, 2023 at 01:39 PM
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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · A few Topaz DeNoise AI questions


Zenon Char wrote:
DeNoise, Sharpen and Gigapixel will be phased out one day. Both DeNoise and Sharpen AI have not been updated in quite a while. DeNoise had the last update of 3.7.1 in February of 2022.

Photo AI is getting updates once a week. Not suggesting you get it. Just thought I'd let you know.


Pardon the maybe simple question but you seem very advanced with post processing. I use DeNoise only. I am on the older side of things and coming back to learn all the advancements in this field. My workflow is LR to Denoise and that's about it.

For Photo AI, is it possible to use, say, DeNoise and not Sharpen? I am interested in a sharpening app but I do not want to have to sharpen each photo that I also denoise.

I am unsure if I should just get the Topaz Sharpen standalone, the Photo AI if I can use one or the other, or both at the same time or punt the ball and try PureRaw3

Thank you for any help if that all makes sense




Mar 18, 2023 at 11:09 AM
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Photo AI is very limited in controls compared to the older indepednt programs. I have no idea what is the Topaz mental process for making it so basic. The Autopilot is BS.
I'm using the DeNoise separately but it does add some selective sharpening.
They really need to have an "advanced" mode in the Photo AI so that we can control the denoising, sharpening and upscaling properly.

EBH



Mar 18, 2023 at 11:30 AM
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