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Archive 2023 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

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Feb 15, 2023 at 07:25 AM

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bs kite wrote
Please tell me that his explanation is not the only way to switch. Can't be.

First, he moves his whole hand to use a finger on the focus mode button, I would use my thumb. Second, I believe one can program a Fn button on the lens to do "Recall shooting functions" - which includes focus mode - as described on page 669 of the "Z9RG_(En)03.PDF" Reference Guide.

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Feb 15, 2023 at 07:30 AM

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bs kite wrote:
Reference the above link on the Alaskan man reviewing the Z9

At 26:14 he begins to discuss how to switch between Auto Area and 3D Tracking.

Please tell me that his explanation is not the only way to switch. Can't be.

2 other ways easily. I don't use button on the left at all as it is a very inconvenient location for sure with big tele
lenses unless you are on tripod. However, you can assign that button to one of the function button on the right so
you can press it easily and use the dial.

Mine is on Fn1. Luckily, i use wide area-L, programmable C1 and C2 usually and I can switch between these 3 modes with wheel easily as all 3 are placed in sequence. My Fn2 button is set to single point so if I have a subject in a bush or with branches in front, I just press
and hold Fn2 to be in single point mode to get the subject quickly. He could certain set camera to auto area and assign
Fn2 to 3D so he can switch between the two modes quickly.

Honestly, Canon and Nikon is almost like 2 person who speaks totally different language. I can switch between Nikon, Sony and Leica easily enough and it does not take long to figure out everything. but whenever I used my friend's Canon, there is just nothing intuitive about it. Same as Fuji. (not saying that one has better ergonomics) but it is a completely different way of using a camera, I think. I don't expect a long time Canon shooter to be able to pick up a Nikon body and be familiar with it unless the person has and use it regularly for many months and really made an effort to learn how to use the camera effectively and vice versa.

Feb 15, 2023 at 07:32 AM

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p.6 #4 · p.6 #4 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

Why are you judging the man for using the camera that he likes to photograph his kids? Says more about you than it does about him to be honest.
tzhang4284 wrote:
After participating and following this topic for a long time, I've concluded that this is the story of two imperfect systems that are almost there.

If Nikon came out with a Z9 in a smaller form factor like the A1 and gave the ability to use an add-on grip, the Nikon faithful wouldn't complain. They would look to how Nikon can build a camera just as small as Sony and argue like all Sony users that you can always add a grip to it. The size of the Z9 makes it only useful for wildlife photographers or the Nikon faithful who...Show more →

Feb 15, 2023 at 07:38 AM

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p.6 #5 · p.6 #5 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

bs kite wrote:
Reference the above link on the Alaskan man reviewing the Z9

At 26:14 he begins to discuss how to switch between Auto Area and 3D Tracking.

Please tell me that his explanation is not the only way to switch. Can't be.

The presenter knows so little.

It's simple. Many Z9 owners program the Video record button (the red one) to press and dial between AF modes on the front dial. With the fore finger only if you set CUSTOM f6 is On.

There are other options for very fast changes - including programming a front Fn button or a LensFN button to AUTO+AFOn etc etc

Feb 15, 2023 at 07:45 AM

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p.6 #6 · p.6 #6 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

Seriously, screw that guy for getting out with his kids and documenting it however he wants, right?

JadedWriter wrote:
Why are you judging the man for using the camera that he likes to photograph his kids? Says more about you than it does about him to be honest.

Feb 15, 2023 at 08:47 AM

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suteetat wrote:
2 other ways easily. I don't use button on the left at all as it is a very inconvenient location for sure with big tele
lenses unless you are on tripod. However, you can assign that button to one of the function button on the right so
you can press it easily and use the dial.

Mine is on Fn1. Luckily, i use wide area-L, programmable C1 and C2 usually and I can switch between these 3 modes with wheel easily as all 3 are placed in sequence. My Fn2 button is set to single point so if I have a subject...Show more →

You are especially informative here. Valuable information to know! Thank you.

I did not know that about Canon.

I guess it is obvious to everyone that this reviewer did not spend enough time on this
particular review.

To be fair to him, I should add that I like some of his other wildlife equipment review work...... a lot!

Feb 15, 2023 at 09:13 AM

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RoamingScott wrote:
Seriously, screw that guy for getting out with his kids and documenting it however he wants, right?

I think you guys may be exaggerating the intent of his poorly phrased comment.

I have a friend who shoots canine agility events. He uses a Z9 and an adapted Nikon F mount lens. I am not sure which one. However, the resulting setup is huge. Every time I see him fully dressed out to shoot in hat, elbow pads, knee pads, vest, hat, and some sort X strap camera carrier that puts it centered on his chest, I break out in laughter. He is not a big guy and the look is positively comical.

In general when I see a photographer carrying around a big old DSLR like a D850 (a camera I loved in my time with it) and huge zoom lens from just a few years ago it does look awkwardly funny and out of place.

The Z9 is more DSLR in its look than most mirrorless cameras. It is noticeable when you see one in the field these days.

Feb 15, 2023 at 09:23 AM

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p.6 #9 · p.6 #9 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

Because it lacks social awareness. I would be worried about someone swinging about a z9 and a large lens at a park with kids or pointing a large lens with a z9 at me in a city. Not the right tool in the right setting.

Also says a lot about the person who latches on a small part of my comment and tries to fan false indignation rather than address the main point which is a z9 is poorly sized. Let’s not be so thin skinned?

JadedWriter wrote:
Why are you judging the man for using the camera that he likes to photograph his kids? Says more about you than it does about him to be honest.

Feb 15, 2023 at 09:32 AM

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tzhang4284 wrote:
Because it lacks social awareness. I would be worried about someone swinging about a z9 and a large lens at a park with kids or pointing a large lens with a z9 at me in a city. Not the right tool in the right setting.

Also says a lot about the person who latches on a small part of my comment and tries to fan false indignation rather than address the main point which is a z9 is poorly sized. Let’s not be so thin skinned?

Feb 15, 2023 at 09:37 AM

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tzhang4284 wrote:
Because it lacks social awareness. I would be worried about someone swinging about a z9 and a large lens at a park with kids or pointing a large lens with a z9 at me in a city. Not the right tool in the right setting.

Also says a lot about the person who latches on a small part of my comment and tries to fan false indignation rather than address the main point which is a z9 is poorly sized. Let’s not be so thin skinned?

Feb 15, 2023 at 09:50 AM

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p.6 #12 · p.6 #12 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

Please......

Could we not have this thread escalate into an argument between a couple of people?

thank you

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Feb 15, 2023 at 09:59 AM

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bs kite wrote:
Please......

Could we not have this thread escalate into an argument between a couple of people?

That would be great...if you could have an actual conversation on FM anymore. Those days are long over. There's always someone ready to lob the troll grenades and blow the whole thing up.

Feb 15, 2023 at 10:02 AM

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p.6 #14 · p.6 #14 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

troll grenades

Feb 15, 2023 at 10:04 AM

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p.6 #15 · p.6 #15 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

When I posted the sister thread on the Sony forum I was simply following Steve's suggestion.

I was not trying to start a brand war.

Be right back; I have to check over there and start laughing. We don't need your buddy (just joking now

), the O_2 bot over here.

Is that male, female or bot? No home state..... nothing. But it sure knows electronics.

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Back now.... looks like it cooled down over there.

Feb 15, 2023 at 10:08 AM

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p.6 #16 · p.6 #16 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

bs kite wrote:
When I posted the sister thread on the Sony forum I was simply following Steve's suggestion.

I was not trying to start a brand war.

Be right back; I have to check over there and start laughing. We don't need your buddy (just joking now

), the O_2 bot over here.

Is that male, female or bot? No home state..... nothing. But it sure knows electronics.

________

Back now.... looks like it cooled down over there.

I can't see about 70% of the posts in that thread because of all the idiots I've had to hide over the years

Feb 15, 2023 at 10:14 AM

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p.6 #17 · p.6 #17 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

Didn't Jay Maisel take images inside NYC with any size Nikon camera he wanted to do it with?

I think so. Just google imaged it and it seems to show a variety.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Maisel

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Feb 15, 2023 at 10:16 AM

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RoamingScott wrote:
I can't see about 70% of the posts in that thread because of all the idiots I've had to hide over the years

- that is too funny

Feb 15, 2023 at 10:16 AM

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p.6 #19 · p.6 #19 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

In my experience when we were shooting film the use of a camera in a public place rose a lot more attention and negative vibes than today. I don't think the camera size has much to do with it unless photographing someone at a really close distance (within 2 m). If you want to fit in, you have to be comfortable doing what you're doing, and I don't see why a father would be uncomfortable taking pics of his children unless the kids don't want to be photographed. The camera size has nothing to do with it really. Since the folks here who are finding the use of a Z9 in such a situation offensive, are you suggesting that it's somehow more dangerous than use of a smaller camera such as the A1? I think you'd argue that the A1 is not any less capable thus it would not have any less potential to violate people's privacy. And so we come to what I already repeated: the camera size isn't reflective of its ability to invade privacy or otherwise cause harm to people, on the contrary, by being small, a camera is more likely to be used in secret to take pics without the subject being aware of it. Which isn't what you want typically it is best for the subject to be aware of being photographed so that you're not doing something against their wishes.

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Feb 15, 2023 at 10:18 AM

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p.6 #20 · p.6 #20 · Steve Perry's video, comparing the A1 to the Z9

I'm buying a 4x5 large format film cam and taking it to the park just to piss people off now.

Just imagine what I'm doing under that sheet! Think of the children!!!

Feb 15, 2023 at 10:19 AM

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