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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


Have been tracking this spy ship through my window next to my work desk since the start of the pandemics and wondering what to do with it. Shoot it down like what the Americans did with the Chinese spy balloon or try to capture it and learn some of the secrets from it?
After doing some research and found that this spy ship can track multiple low flying targets as far as over 340 mile or 550 km away without the use of cameras & lenses and cost US$200 million to build, I decided to capture it.
So, I started building a photographic system from all those gears that have long past its usefulness for less than $200.
The following are the breakdown of all the components used in building this system and its cost:
Carrefour BLUESKY ST-60700 Refractor Telescope bought in 2007 for S$47.90 (US$35.48)
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH1 Black Kit with Lumix 14-140mm f/4-5.8 bought in 2011 for S$1499.00 (US$1110.37) for my son, presently used unit of the Lumix DMC-GH1 can be had for under S$100.00 (US$75.00)
CSO Special Purpose Green Film (400nm – 700nm) 60mm Ø Double Separating Objective Lens bought in 2020 for S$34.11 (US$25.27)
SVBONY Red Dot Reflex Viewfinder Finder Scope for 80EQ SLT PS Series Astronomy Telescope bought in 2020 for S$18.14 (US$12.99)
Professional 10mm Helical Focuser with 0.05mm Precision bought in 2020 for S$22.97 (US$17.02), this is to assist focusing because the original focusing unit on the telescope was way too course
50 pcs of M3 x 6mm Black Allotted Nylon Thumbscrews bought in 2020 for S$3.81 (US$2.82), this is to prevent damage to the telescope using the original metal screws
T2 Mount Ring for Olympus Panasonic M4/3 Camera bought in 2021 for S$8.70 (US$6.44)
Total cost for the whole system if one is using a used Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH1 for S$100.00 (US$75.00) will be S$217.49 (US$175.02), well a little over S$200.00 but within US200.00

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/utopfiles/43/8743.jpg
This image was taken with a cheap less than $200 photographic system with manual focus, no on-camera processing available because the camera doesn't even know that there was a lens on it, and half an island away from my so call "Little Penthouse" window.
Also due to the distance and the high humidity in this region with shimmers seen on most my other shots, one can always discuss about its resolutions, sharpness and color balance all you want. Enjoy! !

Edited on Feb 09, 2023 at 04:58 AM · View previous versions



Feb 09, 2023 at 04:23 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


No Z9?
Excellent capture.
P.S.: I guess that ship is there with the permission of Singapore's Government.



Feb 09, 2023 at 04:29 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


This poor old man cannot afford a Z9 and too old to use the advance EVF that hurts his aging eyes.


Feb 09, 2023 at 04:31 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


hans98ko wrote:
Have been tracking this spy ship through my window next to my work desk since the start of the pandemics and wondering what to do with it. Shoot it down like what the Americans did with the Chinese spy balloon or try to capture it and learn some of the secrets from it?
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You have that capability? 🧐



Feb 09, 2023 at 07:53 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


! Didn't I just show you how I captured it with my cheap little setup? Hehehe...


Feb 09, 2023 at 08:10 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


Let me show another example of what this cheap little system can do for those photographers who do not want or cannot afford those expensive gears due to not using them much and still wanted to have some fun
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/utopfiles/44/8744.jpg
Great Eastern Buzzard
f/13 (based on my own calculation and estimation), 1/250s, ISO 200, +1 stop
Also taken with the same system at a much closer distant than the airship, not only that the Buzzard doesn't seems to be affected by the shutter noise and brings its partner along to visit us a couple of times.



Feb 09, 2023 at 08:36 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


Here is another shot of the Great Eastern Buzzard that looks like it was wearing the mask from the Broadway musical "The Phantom of the Opera"
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/utopfiles/46/8746.jpg
Same exposure as above but with changes to the natural lighting



Feb 10, 2023 at 04:35 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


Like I said before, the Great Eastern Buzzard will bring along it’s beautiful blonde partner for a meal of bees and insects that were abundant around the parks in this area with lots of greeneries.
Although smaller birds are not on their menu, they do attack them if competing for the same types of food.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/utopfiles/47/8747.jpg
Not from the above cheap setup but equivalently old for the camera
D300s with 300mm f/4E pf and TC-14 III
f/8, 1/400s, ISO 400 on an overcast day
Image resized but not cropped

The noise handling for the D300s is definitely better than the DMC-GH1 even though they have almost the same amount of Pixels
But color wise I preferred those from the DMC-GH1 even without any on-camera processing

Reason for not using the D300s for the telescope setup is because the D300s and all my other bodies are way too heavy for the telescope and its fragile aluminum tripod that came with it as well as the benefit of having 2x crop factor

Edited on Feb 11, 2023 at 04:30 PM · View previous versions



Feb 11, 2023 at 05:06 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


Ripolini wrote:
No Z9?
Excellent capture.
P.S.: I guess that ship is there with the permission of Singapore's Government.


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fotografur wrote:
You have that capability? 🧐


Look at the image, more closely.



Feb 11, 2023 at 09:51 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


😀 I think you saw the teter with a large monitor 👍
I was going to joke about it but left it out for some phographic fun.
Tomorrow I will continue with the story of what photographers can do with this cheap little system and how to overcome some of its limitations.
cheers🥂



Feb 11, 2023 at 10:21 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


hans98ko wrote:
😀 I think you saw the teter with a large monitor 👍
I was going to joke about it but left it out for some phographic fun.
Tomorrow I will continue with the story of what photographers can do with this cheap little system and how to overcome some of its limitations.
cheers🥂


Well, a 12.9” iPad Pro; not the most recent version, but it sufficed.

Your “photographic fun” worked. Obviously, it is actually a flood control balloon, tethered to the ground, to keep the island from sinking.

I love your interesting bird images, and your writings about them. Interesting creatures!

Cheers!




Feb 11, 2023 at 10:33 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


Just to share my story of what one can do with a cheap little system like the one I have built a little a day due to not being good at typing long messages on a tiny window opening where I can only see a couple of lines at a time. Every time I do any correction I either forget or can’t see what has been corrected or selected by the auto words selection or correction.

Okay! To follow up where I stopped yesterday about the Great Eastern Buzzards will attack smaller birds if they compete with them on food.
Here we have 2 families of birds that also feed on bees, and they are the Blue-tailed Bee-eaters and the Blue-throated Bee-eaters that flew in late September to early October from either Yunnan, China or Hainan, China to stay for the winter months, and will depart in April each year for summer up north. This information is based on my own monitoring as well as bird watchers from Malaysia, Thailand and China sharing online. Between Thailand and China, we have very little information because there are not much information coming from bird watchers from that area.
Below is a picture of a Blue-tailed Bee-eater from a family of 6 that I had been monitoring for the past 5 years, especially during the pandemic lockdown periods.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/utopfiles/48/8748.jpg
Lumix DMC-GH1 with BLUESKY ST-60700 Refractor Telescope
f/13 (estimated), 1/400s, ISO 400, +0.3 stop
Image resized but not cropped

I can see some circular banding on my screen on the main picture and that was due to my poor alignment of the 2 front objective elements that I still have not touch on since the re-opening from the lock-down
This particular picture has been processed with Topaz AI to remove some of the noise as well as some sharpening done, also adjusted the color a little with PS

If one is able to get the above result or even better if they did it better than me in post processing from a $200 system, I don’t think one should complain much, right?
Please post your questions if you have any and I will be willing to share more

Will continue the next part tomorrow in order not to make it too long
Have fun!



Feb 12, 2023 at 04:59 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


The lens is so powerful it sees back in time to when there were TV antennas.

EBH



Feb 12, 2023 at 09:26 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


We haven't been using them since we switched over to digital TV or online TV a number of years back. But many are still around which is a good thing for bird watchers like us, because birds like to use them as lookout points for hunting where photographers like us can easily spot them.
But they are all disappearing fast because building owners are removing them due to rusting and hazards of them falling to the ground hitting someone.
Speaking of back in time which is also very true for the telescope which I dig out from under my son's bed since he is no more staying with us except for holidays.



Feb 12, 2023 at 09:58 AM
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Focusing on moving subjects with a manual focus lens
Recently we have lots of talks about cameras not able to focus on moving subjects even for some of the latest and most advance systems ever made, or one brand is better than the other, or pro versions vs non-pro versions, or one must have bird’s eye and face detection in order to do it
Ever wondered how photographers before AF was invented did it? I think not! Because too many are over dependent on automation and don’t really care. But if they did, they would have come out with some kinds of solution or understand why at certain time even the best of the best was not able to get focus and hunt
I am sure there are many ways to focus on moving targets with manual focus lenses and the two methods I used most are Zone focusing and Hyperfocal focusing, both apply the DOF with respect to aperture openings to get the targets within the pre-determined range to be in focus
Zone focusing normally works best with shorter focal length or wide-angle lenses with shorter MFD and wider DOF
While Hyperfocal focusing works best with longer lenses like telephotos and telescopes with MFD normally in the hundreds of meters to km range and shallower DOF, and are not so easily figure out if one does not know how to do it or have the apps to assist them. But once understood and have the apps to assist them, they can easily apply
Hyperfocal Distance = [(focal length) ²] / [(f-number) (acceptable circle of confusion)] + (focal length)
Will not go into Hyperfocal Distance in detail since those who are interested can always look it up because it will occupy multiple pages, but will explain how I apply it to get focus on moving subjects
A few things one will need to get started are:
1) The camera or sensor size used (M4/3 (17.3, 13.0)
2) The focal length of the lens (700mm)
3) The aperture opening of the lens (f/13)
4) The nearest expected distant of your subject as a starting point (3.5km)
If the calculated result did not meet your initial expectation, one will have to sacrifice the longer end to give maximum coverage
For example, I knew that my target will never come any closer than 3.500km and my camera is M4/3 with 17.3, 13.0 sensor size (for calculating COC), and focal length of 700mm with aperture f/13
Punching in these data into my app will give me a result of 3.769km for Hyperfocal Distant, now if I set my lens focal distant to 3.769km it will now cover from 1.884km to 21.444km, which is more than what I will need to shoot this aircraft
To track and frame my target I used the above range to calibrate my SVBONY Red Dot Laser Viewfinder with the camera viewfinder mid-point, and just use the SVBONY Red Dot Laser Viewfinder from there on without any time lag
There are times that even the best AF system will hunt and images using manual focus look distorted even though they are in focus, this is because shooting long lenses over long distant will likely encounter heat waves/mirages/shimmers or thermal effects that will distort images making contrast or phase detections difficult
Below is an example of a Puma in focus but with shimmers and distortion, not only that there is also a wavy halo around the subject
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/utopfiles/49/8749.jpg
DMC-GH1 with BLUESKY ST-60700 Refractor Telescope
f/13 (estimated), 1/500s, ISO 400
Image cropped from 4128 x 2752 to 1920 x 1280

So, you see we can focus on moving subjects with manual focus lens, and once focusing is taken care of without having to worry about focus hunting or waiting to get focus, we can concentrate our efforts on framing to get our shots.




Feb 13, 2023 at 09:32 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


Finishing up with this $200 system that can shoot from close to MFD of 25-30m for birds to kilometers for airship and planes to near infinity for celestial bodies like the full blood moon at 97% the day before the actual event
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/utopfiles/52/8752.jpg
DMC-GH1 with BLUESKY ST-60700 Refractor Telescope
f/13 (estimated), 1/80s, ISO 200, -3 stop
Image uncropped

Reason for using shutter speed of 1/80s, ISO 200 with -3 stop is because the moon was really bright and rising fast from the horizon through my window. On hind sight I could have use Base ISO 100 with -2 stop and still have enough time to record minor details without much motional blur. Well, human do make mistakes and we learn from it

I think JFK once said:

"Ask not what your camera can do for you - ask what you can do for your camera."

Oops! Or was that HvK (Hans von Ko)




Feb 14, 2023 at 07:22 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


On a recent post by the title of "D850 vs D780 vs D750" there were talks about using a TC longer than x1.4 on a Nikkor 200-500mm f/5.6 causes degradation. But did anyone consider that the degradation was not just optical by the longer TC but also by the added magnification of the thermal effects or shimmers as shown in my pictures of the airship and Puma helicopter. Also using a higher density sensor like the one on a D850 over the D780 or D750 will show less of the thermal effects or shimmers due to the finer pitch of the pixels or what we called smoothing unless we magnify to the same dimensions for viewing.
The pictures in this post shows more prominently the effects due to the use of a first generation 12MP sensor with low ISO and poor noise handling, as well as the hot and humid environment.



Feb 17, 2023 at 12:42 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Missing US Spy Ship since 2015 spotted above the sky of Singapore


Ronald Reagan obsessed with Star Wars and "tear-down that wall Mr.Gorbachev". A fat lot of good that did Russia. Times have changed with new spy-game using radio-controlled balloons crossing continents like migrating birds waiting for the clouds to clear to spot some form of life on the ground; or below ground? However shooting down these floating moons not very sporting in this Great Game. In a dummy war we should maintain some standards.


Feb 17, 2023 at 02:33 AM
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I think is better not branching away from the discussion of how we can improve on our photography no matter which system we use or can afford, or else it can get very nasty and get lock down like the other post.
I used the title of the airship is because coincidentally I have a couple of pictures to show.

Anyway, thanks for all your likes and support. Cheers!



Feb 17, 2023 at 02:53 AM
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There is a post here title "Moon Shot" showing how to capture the moon with human subjects added using drones and complex trigonometry but still not able to precisely pinpoint the shooting location by running around in a blur.

Actually there is a much simpler way to do it and was shown on one of the documentaries made by one of the Chinese TV Station a couple of years back broadcasted during the pandemics, showing photographers in China photographing the moon through the opening of the Beijing TV Station building using Beidou satellite positioning and a couple of apps, to precisely identify the location where the photographers should be position across town for the capture.
The documentary shows the precise trajectory of the moon movement in an arch rather than a straight line as the "Moon Shot" planners have expected, and was the reason why they missed putting the human over the moon. Also neither the moon nor their human subjects have any details using one of the latest and more expensive Z9 with 800mm PF compare to the picture of the moon taken with a $200 system above

I used similar approach to calculate the hyperfocal distance from where I am to where I should focus just by using satellite positioning together with apps without having to invest in drones or perform complex and human error prone calculations.

This shows that one does not need the latest and the most expensive photo gears to enjoy the art of photography.

What the systems lack off
We as photographers should make up for it

Ask not what your camera can do for you
Ask what you can do for your camera



Feb 27, 2023 at 01:56 AM
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