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Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?


I begun my serious journey in photography with a marvellous Fuji S5Pro and from there onwards I moved to Nikon as a natural path but along the way I gave a hit at the X-Trans sensor which left me with a sweet-sour taste, the Fuji X-Pro1 was very very pretty camera, construction nothing great, paint would easily come off, sluggish as much as the S5Pro if not more, the files nothing to scream to miracle and the colours, which I expected to be after the S-CCD, even worse but, all in all, the tiny 35/1.4 made me forgive all of the above.

Unfortunately the camera suddenly died with no apparent reason and I sold the 14 and 18-55 (this latter one I'd say a rather mediocre lens agains the general hype which screamed to miracle kit lens), I kept the 35 in the hope to convince myself at getting, back at that time, an X-T2 but I had to give it away and there it then came a Nikon Z6II which allows me to use some of the F bayonet lenses I own, a very good camera which serves its purpose but I can't feel at home with it, either I miss the handling of a true reflex camera or the need to hit a button or the screen to, say, change exposure method, ISO, metering, self timer and so on.

Last weekend I saw the X-T5 in a shop window and they also had a T4 on a stand to handle and I couldn't resist, the hand feels at ease with it, all the dials there where they should be, I can see myself having fun with it as it was back in the film days, no need to go mad behind a computer stuck in a camera case.

Question being, for those of you who handle both a Fuji X-T and a Nikon Z, what is the files quality until, say, ISO 3.200 and what about dynamic range, does it stand against a FF sensor? Of course I'd compare apples with apples, say an X-T4 with a Z6 and an X-T5 with a Z7

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Jan 25, 2023 at 09:28 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?


I have not touched the T5, but I had the X-T2, X-T3 and X-H1. Had a Z6II and a Sony system at the same time while owning the stuff. If you have no intention of touching a flash get a Z6II. They all handle colors in "Unique" ways, but I think if you need something versatile enough low light wise get a Z6II. There are various videos on the net for this question. I'm curious about the X-T5/X-H2, but it would definitely be my studio system and not natural light full time. Edit: Also no. I don't hate the X system. I almost bought back into it several times, I actually think it's a great secondary system.


Jan 25, 2023 at 09:33 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?


I mained an A7RIII and bought a Fuji X-T4 as a second and hybrid body. The Fuji's video quality is pretty OK but stills quality can't touch FF. I wouldn't go beyond ISO 1600 or images would start looking watercolor-y.

I bought a Sony A7IV recently and now it's my main body for both stills and video. Awesome sensor, AF, and available lenses. The Z6II would be comparable to the A7IV.

I still bring my X-T4 along to assignments, but I don't shoot it much and don't really use the files from it. It's like a back-up back-up body now.



Jan 25, 2023 at 09:44 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?


I remember shooting an event with the RII and X-T3 and indoors, in natural light...there's no competition. X-T3 with the 16-55 2.8 vs the RII with the 70-200GMI, the RII outputs a better file.
genjy wrote:
I mained an A7RIII and bought a Fuji X-T4 as a second and hybrid body. The Fuji's video quality is pretty OK but stills quality can't touch FF. I wouldn't go beyond ISO 1600 or images would start looking watercolor-y.

I bought a Sony A7IV recently and now it's my main body for both stills and video. Awesome sensor, AF, and available lenses. The Z6II would be comparable to the A7IV.

I still bring my X-T4 along to assignments, but I don't shoot it much and don't really use the files from it. It's like a back-up back-up body now.





Jan 25, 2023 at 10:01 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?


I already own a Z6II which is a great camera with good to very good files but I hate the ergonomics while I love the Fuji's but, at the end of the day, it's both the pleasure to handle it as well as the result you get out of it and the latter outperforms the former.

I wouldn't want to regret not having my Z6II or my D850 with me if not for casual shooting but casual can't cost 2K+

So no comparison, as expected, between a T4 and a Z6 with regards to ISO and DR?



Jan 25, 2023 at 10:06 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?


If all you do is shoot for fun outside then it really doesn't matter since the X series is great for that stuff. I know a photographer that shoots with an X-H1 and a Canon professionally. He does work inside. I don't know what his stuff looks like (I don't care enough to even try finding his stuff) and at events I have much better things to do than talk shop with the guy. It works for him and I don't talk people out of gear because I don't care. It's all a matter about what you're comfortable with. I have done college graduation work on X mount, the stuff is mostly fine, though I never really liked how the files handled god awful fluorescent lighting, but that's just me. I tend to not compare files since 90% of the time I don't mentally record what's going on half the time and just edit. Fuji files are mostly fine. My flickr is linked to my profile. You're more than welcome to peruse the thing.
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I already own a Z6II which is a great camera with good to very good files but I hate the ergonomics while I love the Fuji's but, at the end of the day, it's both the pleasure to handle it as well as the result you get out of it and the latter outperforms the former.

I wouldn't want to regret not having my Z6II or my D850 with me if not for casual shooting but casual can't cost 2K+

So no comparison, as expected, between a T4 and a Z6 with regards to ISO and DR?





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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?


The X-T is fun to use for sure. Size is pretty compact with a small lens. If you pair it with WR (weather resistant) lenses, then it's a great outdoor and travel camera.

GiovanniAprea wrote:
I already own a Z6II which is a great camera with good to very good files but I hate the ergonomics while I love the Fuji's but, at the end of the day, it's both the pleasure to handle it as well as the result you get out of it and the latter outperforms the former.

I wouldn't want to regret not having my Z6II or my D850 with me if not for casual shooting but casual can't cost 2K+

So no comparison, as expected, between a T4 and a Z6 with regards to ISO and DR?




Jan 25, 2023 at 10:34 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?


I shoot GFX, X, and Z. Had a Z6 but now have a Z9.

Dynamic range is where X and Z are the most comparable. Fuji does a great job controlling highlights, especially if you lean into the DR settings (which raise your minimum available ISO). The Z cameras are great, but the X cameras come close enough that I consider the difference insignificant.

Noise is as-expected. At low ISO there's no effective difference. At ISO3200 the X camera starts to fall behind in a photographically-significant way. At ISO 12800 the Z camera is considerably better. If you're shooting a scene in which noise is tolerable, I'd say ISO6400 is easy for X, and ISO12800 is easy for Z. If your scene can't handle the color/DR/detail reduction, knock two stops off that.

You can also pull more detail out of the shadows without the image falling apart with the Z cameras. Not a huge difference, but it's there. If I'm shooting a night scene at ISO6400 with an X camera and I have to raise the shadow, I know I'm going to have to fiddle with noise reduction to get the best results. (Incidentally, this is where GFX destroys both X and Z. Shadow recovery is impossibly good on GFX.)

I do love to shoot my X cameras, but I have to admit the Z system gives me more overall detail, as well. The difference only becomes significant at large print sizes and/or heavy crops, but it is there, and if you love 100% crops, the Z system is better.

If I had to give a summary impression, I'd say that the X cameras do everything I need in normal shooting conditions. The Z cameras are measurably better in many circumstances, but X is just fine, and the compact system and other Fuji niceities more than make up for the extra IQ in most situations. My Z9 generally comes out only when things get really difficult... like last weekend I shot a band in a small club where I was getting 1/250 f/1.4 at ISO25600+ under colored (and flickering) LEDs, and the Z9 hit >90% even with the 58/1.4.



Jan 25, 2023 at 06:14 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?


I have a Z7 and XT5 (and XT4). I don't have the 7II but the IQ didn't change much.

I can only mostly echo what's been said above. Most of the time both do more than you need. Most of the time you won't see huge differences. When you push the files in post or bump up the ISO past 1600 you'll start to see the differences. The bigger sensor, unsurprisingly makes more robust files. It's around a stop, as expected.

A few notes.
1. The Fuji files really do respond differently depending on your raw processor. I like DXO. But it's not the only option for Xtrans.
2. The AF on y XT5 is better than my Z7. But I don't have a Z7II or Z6II to compare.
3. The buffer might belimiting on the XT5 if you shoot lots of bursts. This is not me so I have never hit the buffer. And I'd take an XH2 if I need it.
4. I much prefer the Fuji colours to the Nikon.
5. The system size isn't much different. Nikon's excellent folding zooms and 1.8 primes mean you get nice controls and a pretty camera but not really a smaller kit. Except for the 150-600 of which there is no equal. Not even the PZ lenses which are primes so don't count. I do MUCH prefer the Fuji layout and controls though. Ther's the Fujicrons of course but add a zoom or two and they're quite close.
6. The XT5 IBIS is better than my Z7. So depending on the subject you might make up some of the differences there.

Gordon



Jan 25, 2023 at 09:05 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?


Short story: Fuji doesn't compete in brute AF or IQ against full frame whether Sony, Canon, or Nikon

Long story: Fuji, when shot at ISO 1600 or lower, produces beautiful files, especially if you can bake a JPEG recipe that you're happy with. I shot RAW on the X-T2 and X-H1 and never really gelled with the output, nor did I enjoy editing the files in post. I shoot JPEG only on the X100v and it's actually becoming my most used camera body for anything not action because of the beautiful filmic output. The difference is, I'm shooting very specific looks with the Fuji with grain baked in, etc. It is NOT the camera I grab when I need clean, crisp, perfectly focused content.

Fuji has a bunch of great primes and a bunch of middling to stinker zooms.

If you like a camera with a bunch of manual control dials, you can't really go wrong IF you adhere to keeping the ISO at 1600 or below like I mentioned if saving detail is important to you.

Regarding Nikon, both the Z7ii and Z9 I've had blow anything Fuji could offer out of the water, but I think you know that. They are different tools for different jobs IMO.



Jan 26, 2023 at 08:54 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Any Fuji X-T and Nikon Z shooter here?


For a good allrounder body which will give you good results for all types of genre, the Z 6II is a great body.

If you're looking for a fun Z body, checkout the Z fc

I use both Fuji X and Nikon Z bodies. IMO if you are just taking single images, they all work in a similar fashion. However, if you want to delve into some of the extra functions like HDR, or focus bracketing for instance, Nikon like to make life difficult for the user.




Jan 26, 2023 at 12:44 PM







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