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p.3 #1 · p.3 #1 · Antelope Canyon 2023 - Reality Check


How'd it go? Any luck or pics?


Mar 04, 2023 at 10:19 AM
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To mdude85: I disagree. Some of us do discover places on our own. I, like Dan, cut my teeth visiting all the icons in the west before social media and the explosion of digitial photography ruined them. I feel very grateful to have had that experience. But times change. So our responsibilities as stewards of this planet change. I feel sad for new photographers who have to deal with all the crowding. It does suck and it is a great misfortune. But I feel more sad for our planet. My photography obsession has changed. Now I visit the same locations in the west over and over, but I avoid the "icons" and explore. And explore again. It is more difficult and time consuming than having a GPS location for a fabulous shot if you time the light correctly. But as Dan mentioned in his post, the joy of discovering your own special "place" is real and possible. So, my advice for new photographers is sure, go to the icons and tread lightly, but start exploring the areas around those icons. The Southwest, Eastern Sierra, and Death Valley, etc, are big places!. Off the beaten path. Keep going back, over and over again. You will be rewarded and eventually will not be dependent on getting that iconic shot.


Mar 04, 2023 at 12:37 PM
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tsinsf wrote:
To mdude85: I disagree. Some of us do discover places on our own. I, like Dan, cut my teeth visiting all the icons in the west before social media and the explosion of digitial photography ruined them. I feel very grateful to have had that experience. But times change. So our responsibilities as stewards of this planet change. I feel sad for new photographers who have to deal with all the crowding. It does suck and it is a great misfortune. But I feel more sad for our planet. My photography obsession has changed. Now I visit the same locations
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I live an hour from Sedona. Two from the Grand Canyon. I tell my wife when we go to Sedona (we take our glass recycling there) we go early and get out before the crowds hit. And we go in the back way via 89 through Cottonwood. Cathedral Rock trail parking lot is full even early in the mornings now. Which is why we go in the other way. And the views are better!

As for places avoiding the crowds? It is getting more difficult at the Canyon. But it is doable if you know where most people don't know of out of the way spots.



Mar 06, 2023 at 09:37 AM
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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · Antelope Canyon 2023 - Reality Check


If you want to get an idea of how crowded the canyon will be? Go on the Grand Canyon Webcam and look at the South Entrance webcam. It's spring break here. And cars are backed up as far as the eye or camera can see.

Also note. 3 hikers are now dead. They were hiking Wire Pass through Buckskin Gulch with their destination being Lee's Ferry in AZ. They apparently didn't check the weather or perhaps ignored it and a flash flood came through.

At Antelope Canyon they stop the tours if I remember right when there is rain in the forecast? According to the weather, which has been as accurate as the weather on another planet in another galaxy lately, no joke, we are supposed to have no rain or snow until Wednesday of this week in our area of AZ. I made that comment about the weather because on last Wednesday's forecast it was predicted to get partly cloudy and no rain in our area. That afternoon, evening, and night it was a deluge. Parts of Sedona flooded as well as other areas down stream.

Just be aware of the weather forecast. Just because its nice where you are a storm miles away will send a flash flood through the area if one is downstream.



Mar 18, 2023 at 08:03 AM
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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · Antelope Canyon 2023 - Reality Check


tsinsf wrote:
To mdude85: I disagree. Some of us do discover places on our own. I, like Dan, cut my teeth visiting all the icons in the west before social media and the explosion of digitial photography ruined them. I feel very grateful to have had that experience. But times change. So our responsibilities as stewards of this planet change. I feel sad for new photographers who have to deal with all the crowding. It does suck and it is a great misfortune. But I feel more sad for our planet. My photography obsession has changed. Now I visit the same locations
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The "reward" part of this is the most important part, and the thing that is most difficult to express to people who — perhaps as we once were — are focused on getting The Shot of the Famous Thing they have seen and heard about.

I confess that I understand their desire to visit and photograph those things. I have been to a number of them and I have photographed them, too, at least a few of them.

But after decades of photographing and exploring a decent-sized chunk of the western landscape I can tell you with certainty that the experiences that have made the biggest impression on me have not been at the icons. I'm not saying that they made no impression, and I'll admit that the first time I watched and photographed sunrise at Zabriskie Point (to cite one example) I was moved.

But today, when I think back over the many months (perhaps four to five in total?) that I"ve spend photographing in just that one park, the experiences that stick with me the most are not associated with icons: a recent exploratory walk up a random no-name wash by myself, a morning and evening photographing entirely alone in a sandy place not visited all that often, a few visits to a remote slot that I didn't know existed before I walked through it, poking around an abandoned and seldom-visited old mining cabin high in the mountains, being overcome by the utter silence and immense space one recent morning at a location that is no different that thousands of others in the park.

To clarify what I'm trying to say from the "experience" perspective, I don't resent anyone going to icons — you have to start somewhere. Go and enjoy them. And then I hope you can let these places get into your bones enough that you begin to understand that the real reward is not those specific locations but something much bigger and much more sustaining.

One last thing. Earlier in this thread someone suggested that my approach says that I think I'm better than "you," or that "you" are not worth. Actually, the opposite is the case. I remain enthusiastically optimistic that all of "you" are capable of finding joy and even photographic inspiration in more places than just the icons, and I remain hopeful that you will. I want to share that possibility with you.

Good luck.



Mar 18, 2023 at 10:30 AM
 


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G Dan Einstein summary: I, I, I, me, me, me, decades.

Pellets of wisdom shipped on A380 to Library of Congress Archives. Please clap.



Mar 18, 2023 at 11:50 AM
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Rajan Parrikar wrote:
G Dan Einstein summary: I, I, I, me, me, me, decades.

Pellets of wisdom shipped on A380 to Library of Congress Archives. Please clap.


Dear Triggered,

I KNEW you'd reply to this, little fella'. "Thank you for sharing," and have a fun day! :-)



Mar 18, 2023 at 11:59 AM
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p.3 #8 · p.3 #8 · Antelope Canyon 2023 - Reality Check


@Tim Carpenter How did it go?

My wife and I got lucky and were able to go back in 2015. You still needed a guide, but they offered the photographer tour (1 hr vs 30 min and I think max guests was 8-10). We went at an off hour and ended up being the only two people on the tour! My wife used my backup gear while I pretty much got to do whatever I wanted for the entire tour - it was killer (tripod and everything).

The wife managed to score a number of sweet pics herself - she's probably got a better eye than I do.

Hope you scored some keepers.

Jeff



Mar 18, 2023 at 06:42 PM
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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · Antelope Canyon 2023 - Reality Check


Has anyone tried Cardiac Canyon? I was thinking of booking this for the end of April.


Mar 19, 2023 at 04:13 AM
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p.3 #10 · p.3 #10 · Antelope Canyon 2023 - Reality Check



I just got back from cardiac Canyon. I decided on their photo tour because antelope no longer offers them. Overall, I had a great time. There are a maximum of seven people plus your tour guides on any given day. This is why it is a bit more expensive.

However, the tour guides were great and enjoyed the trip. The canyons are deeper than antelope so they are a bit darker, but didn’t prevent good photos if you bring a tripod.

Mattywhitt wrote:
Has anyone tried Cardiac Canyon? I was thinking of booking this for the end of April.














Apr 20, 2023 at 07:03 PM
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