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Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens

  
 
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p.19 #1 · p.19 #1 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


Pretty surprised by the sunstars and lack of flare which to me are pretty important. Would like to see more samples during sunset but so far great pics.

This would make an amazing light hiking/traveling lens if i wouldn't want to take the 20 1.8g which i so adore. I guess my GAS has to calm down soon i am still looking at the voigtlander 35 apo next ugh the GAS!



Mar 12, 2023 at 06:12 PM
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p.19 #2 · p.19 #2 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


I was pretty surprised by the stars as well as I've been using it, they can get pretty crisp. The only issue I've had with shooting into the sun is occasionally getting reflections from the sensor in the image. Pretty rare and only when I'm shooting dead on into it.

The bokeh as well was better than I was expecting. Mine has a little onion ring, but I haven't minded at all. I don't have a lot of lenses to compare it with, but it's much nicer looking than my 40G 2.5 that I like so much.



Mar 12, 2023 at 06:23 PM
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p.19 #3 · p.19 #3 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


chrisd999 wrote:
This was shot at 20mm, corrected using the LR FE 16-35 PZ profile with distortion maximized plus some extra distortion correction manually.]


I've made a Lightroom profile specifically for the 20-70mm, which you are welcome to try if you like. Details here - https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1798744/0#16185607



Mar 12, 2023 at 06:39 PM
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p.19 #4 · p.19 #4 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


MikeEvangelist wrote:
I've made a Lightroom profile specifically for the 20-70mm, which you are welcome to try if you like. Details here - https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1798744/0#16185607


Thanks for sharing that Mike, I downloaded and used your lens correction profile for this image. It looks great!

I shot this image to test sunstars and flare. I purposely left the little bit of flare in the image. I can't comment on the sunstar, as sunstars are not my thing, but flare control on this lens looks quite impressive.

A7R5 with FE 20-70mm f4 G, É/16.0 21mm 1/250s ISO 100:







Mar 12, 2023 at 08:49 PM
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p.19 #5 · p.19 #5 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


Here's another sunstar. 20mm at f/11 (A7RV)








Mar 13, 2023 at 08:20 AM
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p.19 #6 · p.19 #6 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


Nice sunstars. I think I may stay with my 16-35 / 75 and just rent a 24-70 for a gig. Kinda need 2.8 for gig work but travel im all in on F4 lenses. Love these focal lengths though a 20-70 is unique


Mar 13, 2023 at 08:27 AM
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p.19 #7 · p.19 #7 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


I am so happy with this lens still. I wasn't really all that interested in it for the added wide angle with it going to 20mm, but I find I use it more than I expected. The weight is growing on me too, still easy enough to bring the A7IV and this on a chairlift for some Mt Bachelor summit pics. The 20-70 being shorter than the 28-200 I'm used to makes it easier to get in and out of my sling bag with gloves on too. Which is good because despite the sun being out, it was COLD up top.

The lack of a LR lens profile yet hasn't really been an issue either, easy enough to correct the few times I notice an issue.


























Mar 18, 2023 at 08:33 PM
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p.19 #8 · p.19 #8 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


Tarekith wrote:
I am so happy with this lens still. I wasn't really all that interested in it for the added wide angle with it going to 20mm, but I find I use it more than I expected. The weight is growing on me too, still easy enough to bring the A7IV and this on a chairlift for some Mt Bachelor summit pics. The 20-70 being shorter than the 28-200 I'm used to makes it easier to get in and out of my sling bag with gloves on too. Which is good because despite the sun being out, it was COLD up
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WOW! These are amazing.

Iím currently renting this lens, and really loving it. I too find Iím using the 20mm end far more than I thought I would. Havenít reviewed the images on laptop yet, but as for now, Iím really digging this lens despite it being f4. And Iím generally not at all fond of zoom lenses, but the focal length range, the size/weight, and an aperture ring too! Iím just having a blast playing with it!




Mar 19, 2023 at 12:05 PM
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p.19 #9 · p.19 #9 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


Same, it just checks so many boxes for what I needed as an every day go anywhere lens. Just picked up a Sigma 100-400 this morning, so I can cover all the focal range I need with only two lenses. Looks like it will all fit in my PD Sling bag too, so still relatively easy to carry.




Mar 19, 2023 at 01:04 PM
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p.19 #10 · p.19 #10 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


Hi did anyone get a sharp copy of this lens? I got one that's decentered and it's really not shining. I also have a 24-70 gm ii and sharpness blows my 20-70 out of the water.


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p.19 #11 · p.19 #11 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


Zayne12 wrote:
Hi did anyone get a sharp copy of this lens? I got one that's decentered and it's really not shining. I also have a 24-70 gm ii and sharpness blows my 20-70 out of the water.


Mine passed the Phillip Reeves decentering test with flying colors, and itís sharp from corner to corner at all focal lengths. I couldnít be happier with it, and have no regrets about swapping out my Sigma 24-70 (and my previous Sony 24-105) for it.



Apr 02, 2023 at 02:28 PM
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Zayne12 wrote:
Hi did anyone get a sharp copy of this lens? I got one that's decentered and it's really not shining. I also have a 24-70 gm ii and sharpness blows my 20-70 out of the water.


No issues at all with sharpness here.



Apr 02, 2023 at 03:49 PM
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p.19 #13 · p.19 #13 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


My copy of the 20-70mm is pretty sharp in the corners. I think the gm ii has slightly better center sharpness though but itís too be expected

Zayne12 wrote:
Hi did anyone get a sharp copy of this lens? I got one that's decentered and it's really not shining. I also have a 24-70 gm ii and sharpness blows my 20-70 out of the water.




Apr 02, 2023 at 04:02 PM
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p.19 #14 · p.19 #14 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


Zayne12 wrote:
Hi did anyone get a sharp copy of this lens? I got one that's decentered and it's really not shining. I also have a 24-70 gm ii and sharpness blows my 20-70 out of the water.


Mine is fine.



Apr 02, 2023 at 04:07 PM
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p.19 #15 · p.19 #15 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


My copy is also very good. I haven't had any opportunity to shoot real scenes with it, but I did put it through Fred's tests for decentered or tilted elements. This copy passed without issue at 20mm, 24mm, 35mm, 50mm & 70mm. I used f4 and f5.6 for each tested focal length.

I also found that the subject, when moved from frame center into the corners, didn't look unusually soft compared to the same tests with other lenses, including my PZ 16-35, the FE 20/1.8, or my recent but now gone FE 24-105. That was a pleasant surprise.

Zayne 12, it sounds like you should exchange that copy for another.

Brian

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Apr 02, 2023 at 07:38 PM
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p.19 #16 · p.19 #16 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


I've had two bad copies which I returned. both decentered and one tilted as well. The good side is quite sharp. Third time is a charm? I feel bad for B&H but I really want a sharp copy of this lens.


Apr 02, 2023 at 11:40 PM
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p.19 #17 · p.19 #17 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


I am currently on a trip in Italy - also headed briefly to Geneva - and the Sony 20-70 is my primary lens. I am loving the range, will download and vet the photos for quality shortly.


Apr 03, 2023 at 02:37 AM
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p.19 #18 · p.19 #18 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


ifixfxs wrote:
I've had two bad copies which I returned. both decentered and one tilted as well. The good side is quite sharp. Third time is a charm? I feel bad for B&H but I really want a sharp copy of this lens.


Don't feel bad for B&H, just when you return them make sure you send them back as defective so maybe B&H sends them back to Sony and not resell them and then I get one I have to return...

And if Sony has quality control issues then they need to be aware of that, so it's important they get the products returned.



Apr 03, 2023 at 10:17 AM
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p.19 #19 · p.19 #19 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


Have you made or found online some comparison between the 16-35 f/4.0 PZ and the 20-70 f/4.0 on the 20-35 range?

I try to find a site that tested both (ideally with corner sharpness "numbers" to have a concrete reference) and also what people are thinking about real life use.

For hiking use I'm still undecided on which one to choose. I love the 16-35 range, but it means that I need to carry another lens with me as 35mm (even cropped on a high megapixel sensor) is often too short. Another lens means weight and having to switch lens (which is not practical while hiking)... but if the 16-35 is really much better in terms of overall sharpness it will be a very difficult choice.



Apr 04, 2023 at 02:46 AM
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p.19 #20 · p.19 #20 · Pre-order: Sony FE 20-70mm f/4 G Lens


If your alternative to a 20-70 is a different standard zoom lens like the 24-70, 28-70 or 24-105, which do not hit 20mm at all, perhaps optical performance at 20-23mm should not be considered when evaluating the 20-70 against these alternatives.

What matters more is how the lens compares at f/4 in the shared range to its competitors. For example at 70mm, 50mm, and at 24mm against the 24-70GMii, 24-70 art and 24-105. At 28mm against the 28-75 and 28-70

The second consideration is whether we are willing to lose one stop of light, 105mm or OSS, in exchange for the lighter weight.

The third consideration is how much one values having 20mm tagged onto a standard zoom. I think for someone who is happy with 20mm as their widest focal length, the 20-70 is very compelling

For me, a 20mm is not wide enough to forgo carrying a wider lens in addition. Something like the 12-24, 14-24 or 16-35. Personally I do find myself wanting to zoom out wider than 16mm, but I donít really want to stomach the far greater weight of the zooms wider than 16mm while holding the camera on a stick.

Due to the 16:9 (1.2x) active stabilization (1.15x) and breathing compensatory crops, a 20mm in video mode has a hfov equivalent of a ~30mm lens in photo mode. This becomes ~42mm equivalent if I also need to factor a 1.5x crop factor for 4K/60

I think the 20-70 has the potential to be an apsc camera killer. Its the same weight as a 16-55/2.8G, has the same amount of bokeh on FF as the f/2.8 on apsc, is wider at 20mm than the 16mm = 24mm equivalent, and is likely to produce a higher resolution image on the FF sensor (lp/ph), is cheaper, and is also a more physically compact lens! Itís really a win win win win win situation when compared to a 2.8 standard zoom on apsc.

If we look at Fuji, their 16-55/2.8 weighs in at 655g which is considerably heavier than the 488g 20-70 too.

This lens turns the idea of apsc setups always being smaller and lighter on its head.



Apr 04, 2023 at 08:48 AM
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