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lighthound wrote:
I'm certain Canon doesn't "expect" people to buy the EF 500II to pair with the R5. They do however expect serious wildlifers to pony up and purchase the new RF 400, 600, 800 or even 1200 lenses they have offered.
Not to mention the much more affordable RF 100-400, 100-500, 600f/11 and 800f/11 options for wildlifers. And lets not forget Canon gave us the seamless ability to use a plethora of EF lenses to choose from, both OEM and third party.
4 years into the new RF mount, how can anyone feel like their photography is being held back with literally hundreds of lens options to chose from.
Being that the EF 500II is still in production, users have plenty of time before the 7 year service clock even begins to start ticking. There are lots of people that want to get out there right now and enjoy this hobby and setting around wasting their lives waiting for something that may never come is not very fun or fulfilling.
With that said, myself and others like yourself have been patiently waiting for a new RF 500 great white that is somewhat attainable by us mere mortals. No one knows if it will ever be offered though. But if it does, it's certain to be a MASSIVE advancement over the current EF version and the other RF great whites they have already released.
At this point after lusting for such a lens for so long, I have to keep asking myself if I really need it or is it more about severe GAS from all the anticipation.  ...Show more →
Lighthound to the left of me! Lighthound to the right of me! Lighthound everwhere, but is it the same Lighthound,  . Man, you left my head spinning. First you chide me for having an unfulfilled want and then you beautifully articulate the reasons why I (and many others) want a RF500mm.
To summarize (and then I will let it be):
I already have an EF 100-400 II and have no intention of buying an RF 100-500 (why? It would be a modest improvement at disproportionate cost)
I am reach-limited with my 100-400 and 1.4x TC
The 100-400 + 1.4x TC is f/8, making me light-limited at times in the golden hours and their edges
I am not getting any younger (in my 60s) and realize that, even with efforts to stay in shape, I am not going to fare well in the coming years lugging a 600mm around
I am not eating bread and water but also don't have unlimited money (and I have an understanding wife but there are limits to how far that goes!)
Packing gear for flying trips is always a challenge and would be more so with a huge (heavy and long) prime like the 600mm
Canon Rumors reported a CR2 a while back of a RF 500mm f/4.5 DO lens being tested in the wild. If such a lens were to be released, it is estimated it would be in the 4.5lbs range (compared to 7.02lb for the EF 500mm II). It would also be shorter than the EF 500mm II and would be notably shorter and more packable than the RF600mm.
The EF500mm II is $3000US cheaper than the 600mm. Thats about $4100CDN, and with taxes about $4600 less expensive. I suspect Canon would increase the cost of a new RF 500 but it would still be a lot cheaper than the 600mm. And being a 1/3 of a stop slower than the EF 500 II would also factor in on the other side of the equation (reducing price compared to a f/4, hopefully resulting in a smaller than otherwise overall increase in cost).
I too would absolutely love it if it had a 1.4x TC built in. It would be photography heaven for me and my genre and style of photography. The R5 (or R5 II) and such a lens would be a phenomenal combination!
Apologies to the OP for a bit of a tangent (not that those EVER happen on FM, )
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I couldn't think of a better place for that button. But knowing Canon engr, they would probably outsmart themselves. 
), but for handholding, the 100-500 just ends up being pretty remarkable.