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To all,

I'm sending you this PM to make you aware of a situation I ran into. In send a Sony camera
to a user after a sale on FM my local USPS office told me that they no longer will allow Lithium batteries to go Priority. They now must be marked and go as Hazmat Transport. This means its shipped via ground at fairly low priority. It supposedly can take up to two weeks to go the same distance as three days used to take. I had a package I had to send this way and did not know this. According to my local US Post Office the policy is about a month old.I have not founded posted though. This is the first time I have run into it with any of my FM Buy & Sell transactions. Don't know if any other users have experienced this. Sound like FedEx and UPS, here in the US don't have a similar policy that I know of so they maybe a better way to serve users here.

I am wondering if any of you can help out and find a way to confirm this or let me know if you have had a similar experience.
If this is the case I think users hear to be made aware of this to prevent long shipping times.

Thank you for your time.



Nov 19, 2022 at 02:33 PM
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MPB regularly ground ships via FedEx all camera gear I’ve bought and and sold to/from them including batteries that are NOT stored in the camera, but rather wrapped securely in their original container or inside plastic wrapping, and only one battery in the wrapping. Same with UPS. BH, Adorama, Roberts Camera, same-o, same-o in my experience. I go to counter, tell the agent I have a camera body and two batteries. Agent asks are they wrapped separately? I say yes, agent places a sticker on the outside of the box alerting each check in station there are battery(it’s) inside, and then agent advises me they must go via Ground. Not a problem. Tell USPS to go pound sand, which is what I did long time ago. Good luck 👍


Nov 19, 2022 at 04:32 PM
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The USPS doesn’t specifically ask if the are wrapped separately but I assume they need to be. Any lithium batteries internal to the package is classified as Hazmat. The problem is not so much the ground transportation but the low priority. All the deliveries from camera stores use either FedEx or UPS so going forward I will only use them for shipping of cameras. Just wanted to make sure the FM community was aware of this USPS change in policy.


Nov 19, 2022 at 06:33 PM
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All my eqpt that has theses battys, has a warning label on the outside of the box(Amazon, UPS, FedEx). If I receive anything via the "pony express"(USPS). I am lucky to just get it and have never seen a warning label.
Be cautious and ship outside said eqpt!
Dan



Nov 21, 2022 at 11:25 AM
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That would be correct. And it is not just USPS. Label from a package sent to my house from Amazon pictured below:

https://theloadstar.com/fire-destroys-cainiao-aircraft-pushing-the-focus-back-on-lithium-batteries/

"Rules on carrying lithium batteries were updated by IATA on 2 January this year. Badly packaged batteries have been the cause of some fires but, more worryingly for airlines, many shipments of batteries are misdeclared or counterfeit, reducing carriers’ ability to check for dangerous goods."

https://blog.vrr.aero/the-serious-fire-hazards-of-lithium-based-batteries-to-aircraft/

https://nbaa.org/aircraft-operations/safety/in-flight-safety/handling-of-hazardous-materials/lithium-batteries/dangers-lithium-battery-fires-flight/

"He also went over the accident report for UPS Flight 006, when an inflight fire on a 747-400F carrying cargo that included lithium batteries caused the death of two crewmembers.

The cockpit filled with smoke, and the crew were unable to see the panel instruments. They weren’t able to program the flight management system or adjust the radio. The accident report called for all operators to plan for continuous smoke generation and recommended equipping the cockpit with an emergency vision assurance system, an inflatable transparent envelope between the pilot’s face, the panel controls and the forward window."








Dec 17, 2022 at 04:48 AM
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Is it correct to assume that FEDEX, used by B&H, only uses their own air transport which are none passenger flights I assume? I live close enough in ME that all my cameras and batteries come FEDEX ground but of course they ship all over the country.


Dec 17, 2022 at 10:43 AM
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https://www.fedex.com/en-us/service-guide/hazardous-materials/how-to-ship.html#LithiumBatteriesHazMat

Ground only.

swldstn wrote:
Is it correct to assume that FEDEX, used by B&H, only uses their own air transport which are none passenger flights I assume? I live close enough in ME that all my cameras and batteries come FEDEX ground but of course they ship all over the country.


Nail polish is flammable, must go ground as well.

The rules that all shipping companies have to follow:

https://www.iata.org/en/programs/cargo/dgr/

https://www.iata.org/en/publications/newsletters/iata-knowledge-hub/cargo-ground-ops-regulation-manuals-annual-significant-changes/

https://www.iata.org/en/publications/newsletters/iata-knowledge-hub/what-to-know-about-how-to-ship-lithium-batteries/

https://www.iata.org/en/publications/store/lithium-battery-shipping-regulations/



Dec 18, 2022 at 07:46 AM





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