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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Big Step For Me Today

Today I finally did it. I rallied up the nerve to sell my 6dmk2 (together with my Nikon D750 and my top Nikon lenses). I now only have an R6 and a 7dmk2 (plus a Sony A7c). I honestly never thought I'd ever sell off my Nikon gear and my 6dmk2 to remain mostly mirrorless. This was huge for me because I have been clinging on to Nikon for a little over 30 years!

So, my question is regarding all my current EF lenses. They work spectacularly well on my R6 with adapter, however, should I forget about buying any more EF lenses and focus on only getting RF lenses, or should I consider buying more EF lenses since they work well on both my R6 and 7dmk2? I'm looking at getting two lenses in the near future; a 100mm f2.8 macro and a 24-105mm f4.0L. Would I be better off with EF or RF?

Nov 12, 2022 at 06:01 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Big Step For Me Today

If you need lenses not existing in RF, buy them in EF, perhaps used. It will be a number of years before we see replacements for many of them.

To answer your specific question, the last EF macro is quite fine, whereas the RF 24-105/4 is a better lens than the EFs were.

EBH

Nov 12, 2022 at 06:07 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Big Step For Me Today

I would say, only go for EF lenses if:

1. It fills an immediate need in your toolkit AND
2. There is no RF equivalent OR the RF equivalent is out of your budget OR the RF equivalent cannot meet your performance needs (sharpness, rendering, AF speed, weather sealing etc).

The thing that has really set the RF lenses apart for me is the IS that most of them have. With the R5/R6 IBIS coordination, it's just shockingly good how effective the stabilization is during regular use. I shoot with an R5, and I will gladly take every bit of shake correction I can get for critical sharpness on that 45 mpx sensor.

Nov 12, 2022 at 06:41 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Big Step For Me Today

Best thing to do, as long as you're on a roll selling things, is to dump your 7DII now and grab an R7.
Then moving forward you can add all the RF glass to your heart's content.

Congrats on relieving your load. I've been doing the same thing and adding all sales $$ to my "GAS" fund. I just recently picked up the RF 24-105 f/4 + RF 14-35 f/4 + RF 100-500 and I still have $500 left in my GAS fund.
I still have a few more EF lenses to sell so the kitty will grow even further.
It feels so good!

Nov 12, 2022 at 07:01 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Big Step For Me Today

lighthound wrote:
Best thing to do, as long as you're on a roll selling things, is to dump your 7DII now and grab an R7.
Then moving forward you can add all the RF glass to your heart's content.

Congrats on relieving your load. I've been doing the same thing and adding all sales $$ to my "GAS" fund. I just recently picked up the RF 24-105 f/4 + RF 14-35 f/4 + RF 100-500 and I still have $500 left in my GAS fund.
I still have a few more EF lenses to sell so the kitty will grow even further.
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It's just that the 7dmk2 is so awesome!! If I get rid of it, I would have to get rid of my 17-55mm f2.8 EF-S, and that is one of my favorite lenses ever!

Nov 12, 2022 at 07:26 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Big Step For Me Today

EF 100/2.8 IS isn't supposed to have focus shift like Rf. I'd probably get that one. Mostly use 180 though. Sigma 105 on B&S pretty inexpensively.

I'd say buy the lenses you need. Rf or EF. EF more recent than most/all the mf lenses I've adapted

Nov 12, 2022 at 07:35 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Big Step For Me Today

snegron7 wrote:
It's just that the 7dmk2 is so awesome!! If I get rid of it, I would have to get rid of my 17-55mm f2.8 EF-S, and that is one of my favorite lenses ever!

I use the EF-S 17-55 2.8 IS USM on my R7. Works great—better than it did on my 90D. And currently there is no equivalent offering in RF mount. The only gotcha is the R7 is so small the EF-S 17-55 2.8 IS USM seems really large.

Nov 12, 2022 at 07:49 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Big Step For Me Today

I will keep using EF lenses until RF lenses start to come down in price or if there is a unique RF lens for which there is no EF lens. This also means I will be looking at 3rd party lenses in EF mount.

Nov 12, 2022 at 08:15 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Big Step For Me Today

snegron7 wrote:
It's just that the 7dmk2 is so awesome!! If I get rid of it, I would have to get rid of my 17-55mm f2.8 EF-S, and that is one of my favorite lenses ever!

Why would you have to get rid of that lens if you got an R7 that is more awesome than the 7D2

Nov 12, 2022 at 09:05 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Big Step For Me Today

The main problem for me as to mixing both EF & RF lenses was Adapter swapping.
If you stay with all EF lenses you can leave an adapter attached to the camera.

If you have a mix of EF-RF, do you buy an adapter for each EF lens, or fumble with constant adapter swapping, between RF lens use?

I ended up keeping only one EF lens, EF 16-35F4L, for which an adapter remains "permanently" attached.

Nov 12, 2022 at 10:02 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Big Step For Me Today

My personal opinion is that I find a $50-100 purchase of a dedicated adapter, that yields a savings of $700-1400, a great investment.

Nov 12, 2022 at 10:04 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Big Step For Me Today

Sy Sez wrote:
The main problem for me as to mixing both EF & RF lenses was Adapter swapping.
If you stay with all EF lenses you can leave an adapter attached to the camera.

If you have a mix of EF-RF, do you buy an adapter for each EF lens, or fumble with constant adapter swapping, between RF lens use?

I ended up keeping only one EF lens, EF 16-35F4L, for which an adapter remains "permanently" attached.

The adapters are not that expensive—especially compared to buying a new lens—and I ended up with three adapters. I leave them on my most used EF lenses and don't give it another thought. No different than using my RF lenses—just mount and go. If someday I need more adapters, I won't hesitate to buy another refurb or two from CanonDirect.

Nov 12, 2022 at 10:32 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Big Step For Me Today

I would buy EF lenses to save money. Buy them used. They'll hold their value reasonably well.

That said, the RF24-105L seems a notable improvement over the EF version 1, and a close match or slightly better than the EFII. Since you have the 17-55 for your APSc body, you might consider the RF 24-105 instead. I do love mine.

But since I got the R6, I got the EF 100-400VII, and Sigma Art 50mm. The only RF besides the 24-105L kit lens I have is the 800mm F/11, which has no EF equivalent.

-Brian

Nov 12, 2022 at 10:38 PM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Big Step For Me Today

Looks like Canon still has a $400 discount active on the RF 100/2.8 macro. Might be worth trying if that price is right ($999). The focus shift problem with the RF macro at certain distances can be eliminated by tweaking the spherical aberration adjustment dial on the lens, as tested and confirmed by Jordan in his post about the focus shift problem here on this board.

That said, I'd say keep using your EF lenses if you're happy with them. They'll focus more consistently on the R6 than the DSLRs. I agree with the suggestions to replace the 7DII with the R7 to use with your 17-55. I thought the R7 was a really good, fun camera to use for general purpose photography.

Nov 12, 2022 at 11:22 PM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Big Step For Me Today

When I bought an R6 I intended to simply glue an adapter on it and use all my EF lenses in perpetuity. However, I became seduced by certain RF lenses like the light yet fast 24 and 35 1.8 primes, the pound-lighter 70-200 2.8, and so on. Mixing RF and EF in the same kit has now triggered angst about adapter swapping and ergonomics. I probably should have just stuck to my guns, haha.

Nov 13, 2022 at 12:16 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Big Step For Me Today

Gochugogi wrote:
The adapters are not that expensive—especially compared to buying a new lens—and I ended up with three adapters. I leave them on my most used EF lenses and don't give it another thought. No different than using my RF lenses—just mount and go. If someday I need more adapters, I won't hesitate to buy another refurb or two from CanonDirect.

If I had kept more EF lenses, I would also have purchased an adapter for each, and I'm not beyond purchasing another EF lens like tan EF 100mm Macro along with another adapter; but I have no regrets as to purchasing my current RF lenses, as in each case they outperform the EF lenses they replaced.

None the less, as to the OP's question, it's something to consider.

Nov 13, 2022 at 09:29 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Big Step For Me Today

I have a hard enough time getting close enough using 180+1.4, but I suppose some of the time either it flies off or it doesn't. So af ~100mm macro isn't my #1 priority right now, but it's a good all around choice. Wouldn't mind picking one up sometime.

My 90 Tamron (49 B) would probably be OK for that if it had af. Not bad anyway. It came out in 1979. So if you see any EF that is compatible with a rebel XT, even, from 2007 on, or maybe sooner, might be a good great option.

I'd rather have IS. That said neither my current 180 Tamron or the 180L has it. I think the ~100mm Sigma on the B&S had OS. The Tokina probably didn't, that and the non L non IS Canon are probably good/great optically. Canon is charging ridiculous prices on the 100IS lenses imo. But I suppose if you miss shots not having IS there goes your bargain. You just have to decide if you need IS or not.

Nov 13, 2022 at 01:23 PM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Big Step For Me Today

Sigma had for some time 105mm, 150mm and 180mm macro lenses with IS. Sometimes I'm sorry I didn't get the last.

As far as the original questions go, I've now had the R7 for a month or so and I'd say it is finally time to say goodbye to the 7D MkII. As mentioned 17-55 f/2.8 works quite well on the R7.

Nov 13, 2022 at 03:35 PM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Big Step For Me Today

I shoot both Canon and Sony. It looks like you seem to have a mix as well. I can tell you an advantage of an EF lens is that you you use it on either camera system. They work like native lenses on any of the Canon R cameras (with adapter), and function fairly well on the Sony bodies (I can't speak for the A7C specifically though). I wouldn't worry about the EF lenses except for the slight hassle of a converter, and the fact that most of them aren't being made any longer so you wonder how long you will be able to get them all repaired. I think for most of them that this won't be a concern for quite a while.

Nov 13, 2022 at 05:17 PM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Big Step For Me Today

BrianP wrote:
I wouldn't worry about the EF lenses except for the slight hassle of a converter, and the fact that most of them aren't being made any longer so you wonder how long you will be able to get them all repaired. I think for most of them that this won't be a concern for quite a while.

You can get a more specific idea about how much longer specific Canon equipment will be supported at this Canon Japan page:

https://canon.jp/support/repair/period

But that doesn't guarantee service up to that date as was discovered in a recent thread about servicing the EF135L where Canon Canada informed the FM member that the part needed for their specific repair was no longer available and that their lens was no longer repairable (by Canon Canada). That said, to test this I sent my EF135L to Canon Canada for servicing (because it did need it, I was just delaying it), received a repair estimate and have since had it repaired. Given the sheer number of EF lenses sold over the years and overall popularity of the system, it's likely you'll be able to find working copies of EF lenses for quite some time. But it will always be a gamble how much longer a given lens will continue to function after its service support is ended by Canon.

Nov 13, 2022 at 06:57 PM

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