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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · OCF


I am firmly entrenched in the HS sports world for most of my photography and am not that comfortable with OCF, but I did a quick backyard session today. CC welcome.




  ILCE-7RM4    85mm F1.4 DG DN | Art 020 lens    85mm    f/1.4    1/3200s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM4    85mm F1.4 DG DN | Art 020 lens    85mm    f/1.4    1/3200s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM4    85mm F1.4 DG DN | Art 020 lens    85mm    f/2.0    1/1600s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM4    85mm F1.4 DG DN | Art 020 lens    85mm    f/1.4    1/3200s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  



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Nov 09, 2022 at 05:15 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · OCF


Images are nice and sharp but the tall grass in 3 & 4 is distracting. My comments are strictly as a viewer of your images. I donít do people photography so no technical stuff.


Nov 09, 2022 at 07:52 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · OCF


Yes, some things I donít notice until after the fact.
Thank you.

keepclicking wrote:
Images are nice and sharp but the tall grass in 3 & 4 is distracting. My comments are strictly as a viewer of your images. I donít do people photography so no technical stuff.




Nov 09, 2022 at 07:56 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · OCF


Very nice images and the more you practice with OCF, the more comfortable you'll become. One point you should consider is the percentage of flash contribution vs ambient light. Many photographers try to make the use of flash barely noticeable. This is a personal taste issue. If you're wondering what I'm referring to, compare the first two images to the last image. In the first two, the effects of the flash are much more noticeable. Being able to subtly blend flash in with ambient is a great skill to learn.


Nov 10, 2022 at 07:33 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · OCF


Thank you. All points noted.
Iíve got alot to learn.
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Very nice images and the more you practice with OCF, the more comfortable you'll become. One point you should consider is the percentage of flash contribution vs ambient light. Many photographers try to make the use of flash barely noticeable. This is a personal taste issue. If you're wondering what I'm referring to, compare the first two images to the last image. In the first two, the effects of the flash are much more noticeable. Being able to subtly blend flash in with ambient is a great skill to learn.




Nov 10, 2022 at 07:41 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · OCF


Very good set of pics. My only nit is the crop through the text on her sweater in #1.


Nov 12, 2022 at 09:34 AM
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Good point. Thank you
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Very good set of pics. My only nit is the crop through the text on her sweater in #1.




Nov 12, 2022 at 11:16 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · OCF


First cc is that it's OCF, not OFC. Off-Camera Flash.

Most important nit is on Images 1 and 2, the flash is below the subject's face, and away from the way they're turned their faces, so you have shadows you may not necessarily want. Even if you were going for broad lighting, you would want it closer to the way their faces are turned. Look at the first one especially, how dark her right eye is. No. 4, it's also set below their faces (looks like even below their hands as shadow is above her hand), but it can work because their faces are tilted down.

You really just have to keep practicing, and evaluating yourself, your light placement.



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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · OCF


Ron gave a good critique. It looks like you had them set 45/45 at just about the same power. This creates confused lighting. Also, I think you'd get more flattering photos by using modifiers to soften the light.

If you are not familiar with lighting patterns, such as broad lit mentioned by Ron, study up. I also would have liked to see a better balance between flash and ambient.



Nov 14, 2022 at 01:16 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · OCF


Thank you. I did good a little under exposed on ambient. I wanted to but over did it.

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Ron gave a good critique. It looks like you had them set 45/45 at just about the same power. This creates confused lighting. Also, I think you'd get more flattering photos by using modifiers to soften the light.

If you are not familiar with lighting patterns, such as broad lit mentioned by Ron, study up. I also would have liked to see a better balance between flash and ambient.




Nov 14, 2022 at 01:27 PM
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friscoron wrote:
First cc is that it's OCF, not OFC. Off-Camera Flash.

Most important nit is on Images 1 and 2, the flash is below the subject's face, and away from the way they're turned their faces, so you have shadows you may not necessarily want. Even if you were going for broad lighting, you would want it closer to the way their faces are turned. Look at the first one especially, how dark her right eye is. No. 4, it's also set below their faces (looks like even below their hands as shadow is above her hand), but it can work because
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Good point. OCF is corrected..lol.

Here are a couple I took Sunday. I only used one light with a large modifier this time and tried to keep it above the subject and angled down. Not all were successful, but they are hopefully an improvement and the Mom loves them. Again, CC welcome.






  ILCE-7RM4    85mm F1.4 DG DN | Art 020 lens    85mm    f/4.0    1/640s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM4    85mm F1.4 DG DN | Art 020 lens    85mm    f/4.0    1/500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM4    FE 35mm F1.4 GM lens    35mm    f/2.0    1/3200s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Nov 14, 2022 at 01:39 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · OCF


May I ask what OCF light you are using?


Dec 12, 2022 at 05:41 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · OCF


I had a Flashpoint AD300 in a 120cm Parabolic is all.


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May I ask what OCF light you are using?




Dec 12, 2022 at 05:44 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · OCF


Second set is much better, good direction of light, nicely controlled. I think the biggest thing for me is everything in 1 and 2 looks technically sound i think the improvement they could make would just be the posing.#1 I like the framing and lighting, everything is great but heís just standing there square up mid frame. Itís not bad but thatís where I think it could be a little more interesting. Turn the body, a little contrapposto lean, something. #2 is my least favorite even though again itís technically good. Just square on from belly button up feels like a snap shot. I think that one could have been a good tight headshot or something.

All three have elements I like. The back light is great, I think the subject framing and some leading lines are my favorites, the artificial light looks good and natural. A lot of times when youíre thinking about and learning the lighting and the framing and the shot itís harder to also interact with the subject, I get the same way.



Dec 13, 2022 at 10:40 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · OCF


I did much better posing my subject on my next shoot. She was cooperative and engaged where he didn't want to be there. His Mother had to help motivate him.

That said, I definitely need to do better interacting.
Thank you for the great advice.

GGEIS wrote:
Second set is much better, good direction of light, nicely controlled. I think the biggest thing for me is everything in 1 and 2 looks technically sound i think the improvement they could make would just be the posing.#1 I like the framing and lighting, everything is great but heís just standing there square up mid frame. Itís not bad but thatís where I think it could be a little more interesting. Turn the body, a little contrapposto lean, something. #2 is my least favorite even though again itís technically good. Just square on from belly button up feels like
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