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Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

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p.37 #1 · p.37 #1 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

RoamingScott wrote:
Who could have seen all of this excess launch day stock coming?!

You were wrong then but we are use to that. Most of us here in this thread are interested in the RV or have bought it. Remind us why you are hear?

Dec 07, 2022 at 11:47 AM

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p.37 #2 · p.37 #2 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

nhsonyshooter wrote:
You were wrong then but we are use to that. Most of us here in this thread are interested in the RV or have bought it. Remind us why you are hear?

Implying that a forum full of gearheads with more money than sense represent the floundering American economy is...a take.

Dec 07, 2022 at 11:48 AM

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p.37 #3 · p.37 #3 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

RoamingScott wrote:
Implying that a forum full of gearheads with more money than sense represent the floundering American economy is...a take.
Pot meet kettle. At least these gearheads have some skill.

Dec 07, 2022 at 11:55 AM

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p.37 #4 · p.37 #4 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

nhsonyshooter wrote:
Pot meet kettle. At least these gearheads have some skill.

Never said I wasn't included, but as usual, personal attacks and putting words in my mouth. You're vile.

Dec 07, 2022 at 11:56 AM

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p.37 #5 · p.37 #5 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

RoamingScott wrote:
That's a good use case upgrade. For the vast majority of camera shoppers, especially in the beginning of December during a terrible economy, an expensive niche high res camera body isn't the barn burner a lot of people want it to be. This thread has proved that most A1 owners, sensibly, are waiting to see if their body gets the focus stacking via FW (probably won't) or just wait for the mark ii body and get all these features.

Every new camera can't be an updated A1 though and a lot of the expectations are frankly unrealistic.

I think it more likely this is showing that production and supply issues have improved rather than there being a lack of demand, I know the RV went out of stock at Wex yet a week later they've got more in but the only people who can say for sure are those with actual sales figures.

Back on the subject of expectations, every new feature can't and won't be crammed into the A1, while I don't blame any owners wanting the latest toys it's a little ridiculous demands were being made for firmware updates before any camera with those features had even launched.

Dec 07, 2022 at 12:01 PM

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p.37 #6 · p.37 #6 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

Dec 07, 2022 at 12:03 PM

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p.37 #7 · p.37 #7 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

chez wrote:
Do you really feel the A7R5 camera is aimed at the A1 owners? I think it’s main audience are the A7x or A7rx owners that are looking to enhance their equipment.

Have you read this thread? There are A1 shooters contemplating the A7R5 simply for a few edge features when the camera is far from as capable.

I never said Sony was marketing it to A1 users. They are marketing it to A7R users at twice the price for not much (big picture) gain.

Dec 07, 2022 at 12:06 PM

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p.37 #8 · p.37 #8 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

RoamingScott wrote:
Have you read this thread? There are A1 shooters contemplating the A7R5 simply for a few edge features when the camera is far from as capable.

I never said Sony was marketing it to A1 users. They are marketing it to A7R users at twice the price for not much (big picture) gain.

Sure there are A1 owners interested in the A7R5…but that is not the majority of the intended market for this camera. So the few here on FM that might or might not purchase the A7R5 is a meaningless number in the big picture…just noise.

Dec 07, 2022 at 12:11 PM

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p.37 #9 · p.37 #9 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

tsdevine wrote:
It was more than enough to get me to upgrade from my a7R III. I think we're reaching a level of maturity where expectations that each camera release is going to destroy the prior version, or crosses over and trounces other model lines, is unrealistic.

New technology released in this camera will be refined and most likely included in the next iteration of the other model lines.

I agree with this sentiment and think the upgrade from the RIII to the V is something I will likely do in the Spring or when Sony might be prompted to offer a sale and use the EDU discount. If I am going to upgrade moving from the III to the IV doesn't offer me enough to make the move even with the lower cost of upgrading.

Dec 07, 2022 at 01:47 PM

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p.37 #10 · p.37 #10 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

I don't purport that my opinion is fact since it is just my opinion ...

Having managed several technology companies (sw and hw manufacturing), I understand the complexities of decision making re: features, pricing, marketing, etc but I am retired, not on Sony's BOD, so I don't care who Sony has determined is the target mkt is for the R5 or the considerations involved in the pricing, manufacturing, etc.

I do care if it has a compelling set of features at a price I am okay with.

Having owned the Nex-5, a6000, RX100IV, A7R2, A7R3, A7R4, RX100VII (2) ,A7C (2), A74, I can be easily characterized as somebody who enjoys upgrading when there is a perceived benefit for MY needs & interests at that point in time.

Prior to each upgrade, I research what is avail and often rent other manufacturer's gear's. Everybody's gear has some compromises. Re: Sony, I was not interested in the A9x or A1 since I zero need for more then 5-10 fps and even the NEX-5 had a fast enough readout speed for my landscape and travel needs.

I enjoy all aspects of photography, including the use of the equipment and the R5 has enough compelling features for me to purchase it. Do I wish the R5 was less expensive .. sure! but the price is the price and for me, I have determined it to be acceptable

It is much more camera then I need for my hobby... as is just about any APS-C or FF camera released in the last few years but I will enjoy using it and pursuing my photographic hobby. I am fortunate in that is the only justification I need

Dec 07, 2022 at 02:23 PM

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p.37 #11 · p.37 #11 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

RoamingScott wrote:
Never said I wasn't included, but as usual, personal attacks and putting words in my mouth. You're vile.

How about answer the question? Why are you here? You have no interest in this camera other than to troll it. I am fairly confident no one in this thread is in the Nikon forum trolling the Z9. So tell us, why are you here? You calling me vile is rich

Dec 07, 2022 at 02:32 PM

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p.37 #12 · p.37 #12 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

That's a good use case upgrade. For the vast majority of camera shoppers, especially in the beginning of December during a terrible economy, an expensive niche high res camera body isn't the barn burner a lot of people want it to be. This thread has proved that most A1 owners, sensibly, are waiting to see if their body gets the focus stacking via FW (probably won't) or just wait for the mark ii body and get all these features.

I am an A1 owner, and I am interested in A7RV to use it with the non-stabilized lenses like Tamron 35-150, while using A1 as a second body with the stabilized Sony telephoto lenses. The reasons to wait until May - June are (1) for DxO Photolab to add A7RV to the list of supported cameras (may take 3 months for that), (2) wait for the EDU rebate to become available (I talked to Sony rep today who said that should become available in May - June), or (3) possibly waiting for going back to Japan and buying the camera there that might be less expensive than buying it in Canada.
I am sure others have other reasons not to purchase A7RV now. I very much doubt that A1 owners are mostly waiting for a firmware upgrade.
I had plenty of time today at the local Henry's to play with the demo A7RV in the store - it is a gorgeous camera. The autofocus was fast and the camera was very responsive. A7RV is an excellent 2nd body for an A1 owner.

Dec 07, 2022 at 03:44 PM

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p.37 #13 · p.37 #13 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

Douglas L wrote:
I think the most popular feature some A1 owners like to have in their A1 is the focus bracket that can be done with FW update. I want that feature in my A1 too.

You mean that you believe can be done with a firmware update. It's a guess at best. These cameras are tightly integrated systems with a long R&D profile. Those who have worked in technology can understand and appreciate this. It's never just as simple as a software fix; for a PC yes, but these systems are tightly designed to work under a lot of constraints around power consumption, heat dissipation, limited memory, etc. Quite frankly, I'd bet that past software additions were not additions per se, but rather late delivery of features that were supposed to be ready at launch and didn't make it in time. At that time Sony was rushing to get established in the market and releasing cameras that jumped way ahead of competitors. On the flip side, the Nikon adding features is highly likely to be them doing the same, but this time they are scrambling to keep up, and have to release the cameras without the final software ready to go so "new" features are added that should have been there at launch.

Sony is in a different spot. Canon is similar. You don't see either of them doing anything like this now and it has nothing to do with any of the various conspiracies people like to share on the Internet.

As for the focus bracketing, clearly Sony now has decided to add it; I would guess it will likely be in the new version of the A1 in 18 months, which is probably at this point already mostly designed and being worked on.

Dec 07, 2022 at 04:33 PM

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p.37 #14 · p.37 #14 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

Havings lots of fun with the A7R5, some quick observations:

Hardware
- Feels more or less like an A74 will all the buttons, incl the photo/video switch
- EVF and LCD are great, finally full touch and better resolution on LCD + the new 4-way direction thingy
- IBIS seems to be working very well
-- everything else is business as usual: it is a mature platform at this point and no one should expect big drastic changes

Software/Performance
- the AF performance is definitely next level for shooting/tracking people (which of course, doesn't matter much if you are shooting mainly landscapes)
- Eye tracking in video and streaming is equally fantastic
- JPEGs are rich in details, as expected, but definitely coming in more red than I expected - I can't wait to get a RAW converter going. I shot some outside portraits on a very cloudy day, and I had to adjust both WB and red+orange channels to get the skin tones to where I wanted them)

Dec 07, 2022 at 04:44 PM

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p.37 #15 · p.37 #15 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

Keep your reports coming in folks. What software are you using

The AF has my attention plus some other feature sets.

Dec 07, 2022 at 04:48 PM

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p.37 #16 · p.37 #16 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

ruthenium wrote:
I am an A1 owner, and I am interested in A7RV to use it with the non-stabilized lenses like Tamron 35-150, while using A1 as a second body with the stabilized Sony telephoto lenses. The reasons to wait until May - June are (1) for DxO Photolab to add A7RV to the list of supported cameras (may take 3 months for that), (2) wait for the EDU rebate to become available (I talked to Sony rep today who said that should become available in May - June), or (3) possibly waiting for going back to Japan and buying the camera...Show more →

I’m not waiting for any firmware upgrade it’s fairly rare anyway Sony does it. Just buy what you need ignore the trolls here.

Dec 07, 2022 at 04:53 PM

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p.37 #17 · p.37 #17 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

GMPhotography wrote:
To me this is the real shocker still in stock at both Adorama and BH a day after release. That never happens. I think the shelves are full.

We can speculate that in a few ways but to me its they made a shit load of them

In stock everywhere and apparently calling my name whispering GAS pleasantries 🤪

You are right, I’ve never seen this abundance of stock/inventory of a newly released Sony FF mirrorless one day after release. Wondering what this can mean too. Hopefully this means Sony is planning for a big year-end bump in cameras sales by flooding the market with inventory based upon previous preorder/buying behavior ?

Dec 07, 2022 at 04:55 PM

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p.37 #18 · p.37 #18 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

Well my friend it is a tax break for us.

Dec 07, 2022 at 04:58 PM

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p.37 #19 · p.37 #19 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

Best Buy a mile away.

Dec 07, 2022 at 05:12 PM

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p.37 #20 · p.37 #20 · Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)

It's funny that you could walk into the store and pick one up and get it before those of us who preordered it.

Dec 07, 2022 at 05:15 PM

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