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Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens

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p.4 #1 · p.4 #1 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens

A few from my 1992 v2
One thing I love about this lens is that it has multi personalities.

The flare isn't an issue unless you invite it as I did here.

Shows some veiling wide open

Stop it down it is very impressive. (it says this is f/11 more likely f/8)

Wide open veiling for landscape looks dreamy

Edited on Nov 04, 2022 at 01:30 PM · View previous versions

Nov 04, 2022 at 11:33 AM

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Matt Kerby wrote:
A few from my 1992 v2
One thing I love about this lens is that it has multi personalities.

The flare isn't an issue unless you invite it as I did here.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52276099490_1f7e512b90_b.jpg

Shows some veiling wide open
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52274685202_12a72118e6_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51828660407_0b2dc4eeb9_b.jpg

Stop it down it is very impressive. (it says this is f/11 more likely f/8)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51829953429_acf00bb536_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52275589416_477d75ca9e_b.jpg
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Wide open veiling for landscape looks dreamy
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52276074715_a9c70b4cbd_b.jpg

Hi,

First shot is from Pompeii; not sure about the 2nd and any of the others.

Rich

Nov 04, 2022 at 12:34 PM

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Yep, first and last are Pompeii, then Barcelona, Palm Springs, Amalfi...My favorite travel lens, so tiny and interesting. Wife loves it because she thinks it makes her skin look soft (er).

naturephoto1 wrote:
Hi,

First shot is from Pompeii; not sure about the 2nd and any of the others.

Rich

Nov 04, 2022 at 01:34 PM

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p.4 #4 · p.4 #4 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens

Yesterday, I took the new steel rim for a stroll around my neighborhood. As soon as I saw the images in LR, I noticed contrast was higher compared to v2. That yields deeper colors but rendering characteristics are the same to my eyes. The new reissued version is more in line with the Voigtlander 35/1.4 II SC and far as contrast and resolution but the Leica is still unique for its low distortion and higher glow. Leica managed to keep the magic even though purists may still prefer the lower contrast pre-asph versions.

Here are a few images, mostly wide open under hard light. (the BW statue was at f/1.7)
Adobe Standard and Color profiles.

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.7 1/3000s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.4 1/2000s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.4 1/4000s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.4 1/4000s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.7 1/250s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.7 1/3000s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.4 1/4000s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.4 1/4000s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.7 1/4000s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

Nov 05, 2022 at 03:27 PM

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For those wondering about using filters with the supplied hoods:

The reissued 35/1.4 Lux Steel Rim comes with two hoods. One is rounded (12486) with 46mm filter threads which screw directly to the lens or filter while the other one is reminiscent of the older OLLUX hood. The latter has 2 internal metal tabs that click into the lens' stainless steal rim. Leica designed the lens with two indentations on the rim just to keep this hood firmly attached.

How does filters, hoods or both together affect vignetting? The lens is 6-bit coded but Leica has not updated their M cameras to take advantage of that yet. But one can choose the "35/1.4 Lux pre-asph" from the in-camera 'Manual M' selection.

With the camera Lens Detection set to OFF, there is plenty vignetting even with the lens bare. When applying the Manual lens correction, vignetting is reduced significantly. But how about when adding the hoods?
With both hoods, there is a very slight increase in vignetting. It's not very noticeable but it's there when I inspect the full size image. Perhaps Leica will correct this with the new 6-bit code.

When using a UV or ND filter without any hood, there is no increase in vignetting.

Unfortunately OLLUX type hood does not work with filters. It was designed to attach directly to the lens bare. On the other hand, the round hood can screw to the lens or a filter. However, when screwing it to a filter, it causes hard vignetting and the severity depends on the filter's length. I've tested this with a B+W clear slim filter which is one of the thinner filters available. (~3mm)

Here are the results at infinity: (All wide open at f/1.4)

Lens bare: no filter | In-camera profile off

Lens bare: no filter | In-camera profile: "35 f/1.4"

Lens bare: no filter | In-camera profile: "35 f/1.4" + Round hood (12486)

Lens bare: no filter | In-camera profile: "35 f/1.4" + OLLUX hood (12487)

Lens with B+W XS-PRO 007 slim filter | In-camera profile: "35 f/1.4"

Lens with B+W XS-PRO 007 slim filter | In-camera profile: "35 f/1.4" + Round hood (12486)

Just for fun, here is the CV 35/1.4 Nokton SC with with B+W XS-PRO 007 slim filter | In-camera profile:

Nov 06, 2022 at 06:49 PM

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Leica M10-R + Reissued 35/1.4 Lux SR

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.4 1/2000s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

Nov 07, 2022 at 12:55 PM

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M10-R + 35/1.4 lux SR (wide open)

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.4 1/60s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

Nov 07, 2022 at 06:14 PM

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M10-R + 35/1.4 lux SR (wide open)

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.4 1/180s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

Nov 08, 2022 at 05:19 PM

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M10-R + 35/1.4 lux SR (wide open)

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.4 1/4000s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

Nov 09, 2022 at 11:56 AM

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Walk-around with M10-R + 35/1.4 SR:

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.4 1/1500s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 lens 35mm f/1.4 1/4000s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

Nov 10, 2022 at 10:55 AM

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Fred Miranda wrote:
For those wondering about using filters with the supplied hoods:

The reissued 35/1.4 Lux Steel Rim comes with two hoods. One is rounded (12486) with 46mm filter threads which screw directly to the lens or filter while the other one is reminiscent of the older OLLUX hood. The latter has 2 internal metal tabs that click into the lens' stainless steal rim. Leica designed the lens with two indentations on the rim just to keep this hood firmly attached.

How does filters, hoods or both together affect vignetting? The lens is 6-bit coded but Leica has not updated their M cameras...Show more →

Looks like this lens is best shot without a hood at all. I think I would prefer the v2 with the clip-on 12504 hood, which doesn't seem to add any vignetting. The feel of holding and shooting the v2 with the 12504 is about perfect, IMO.

The contrast looks about the same as my v2 did after its CLA, maybe just the slightest bit higher. I think most of the pre-ASPH lenses have a very minor amount of haze and/or coating wear that will lower contrast.

Nov 10, 2022 at 01:39 PM

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highdesertmesa wrote:
Looks like this lens is best shot without a hood at all. I think I would prefer the v2 with the clip-on 12504 hood, which doesn't seem to add any vignetting. The feel of holding and shooting the v2 with the 12504 is about perfect, IMO.

The contrast looks about the same as my v2 did after its CLA, maybe just the slightest bit higher. I think most of the pre-ASPH lenses have a very minor amount of haze and/or coating wear that will lower contrast.

If one wants ND filters or just a clear glass filter for protection, neither included hood is ideal. The newly designed "OLLUX" is not compatible with filters at all while the other rounded one may introduce hard vignetting depending on thickness.
IF adding a filter is a must, I would leave both hoods home unless someone finds a very thin UV filter (like 1mm or 2mm thick). I believe B+W slim is ~3mm.

It's a great lens but the hood/filter situation could be a grievance for some. The irony is that this lens loves flare and actually benefits from wearing a hood.

Nov 10, 2022 at 03:02 PM

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p.4 #13 · p.4 #13 · Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 Steel Rim lens

The Summilux 35mm Titanium is a bit sharper than the previous versions from the 1970s & 1980s. A friend of mine has it and it has more contrast. It might be comparable to the German copies manufactured after 1986 or so but someone might know that.

Nov 11, 2022 at 04:59 AM

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Can you post side by side images taken with the VM 35 1.4 II and the new steel rim? I would like to compare contrast, resolution, colors and distortion.

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mulberry2006 wrote:
Can you post images side by side of images taken with the VM 35 1.4 II and the new steel rim? I would like to compare contrast, resolution, colors and distortion.

Yes, I will do that. The new steel rim yields higher contrast compared to the v2. Actually contrast and resolution is now very similar to the Voigtlander's and I think you would be surprised by how similar they are in rendering. The main difference is that the glow is more pronounced on the Leica.

Nov 11, 2022 at 09:53 AM

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mulberry2006 wrote:
The Summilux 35mm Titanium is a bit sharper than the previous versions from the 1970s & 1980s. A friend of mine has it and it has more contrast. It might be comparable to the German copies manufactured after 1986 or so but someone might know that.

There is variation between copies to consider too. Also the condition of the glass over the years plays a role in the case of haze, fungus, coating degradation, etc.. In other words, it's hard to know the real difference between batches unless testing several optimal copies side by side under the exact same lighting condition.

Nov 11, 2022 at 10:02 AM

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mulberry2006 wrote:
Can you post side by side images taken with the VM 35 1.4 II and the new steel rim? I would like to compare contrast, resolution, colors and distortion.

Here is a side by side comparison for you. (not great subject, just outside my house)

Leica 35/1.4 Summilux Steel rim (2022) vs Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton II SC
All images shot wide open using exact same exposure and focusing. No post-processing except for sharpening. (Adobe Standard profile for both)

Sample 1

TOP image = Leica 35/1.4 Summilux Steel rim

Focused area at 100% magnification

OOF area at 100% magnification

Nov 11, 2022 at 04:47 PM

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Sample 2

BOTTOM: Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux Steel Rim

Focused area at 100% magnification

OOF center area at 100% magnification

OOF corner area at 100% magnification

Nov 11, 2022 at 04:56 PM

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Sample 3

BOTTOM: Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux Steel Rim

Focused area at 100% magnification

OOF center area at 100% magnification

OOF corner area at 100% magnification

Nov 11, 2022 at 04:57 PM

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Here is a side by side comparison for you. (not great subject, just outside my house)

Leica 35/1.4 Summilux Steel rim (2022) vs Voigtlander 35/1.4 Nokton II SC
All images shot wide open using exact same exposure and focusing. No post-processing except for sharpening. (Adobe Standard profile for both)

Sample 1

Wow, that is CLOSE.

For now I prefer:

Original v2 > Voigtlander SC > Steel Rim reissue

Nov 11, 2022 at 04:57 PM

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