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Victor Santos
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · AF on X-Pro 2. I'm struggling.


So I just purchased a new X-pro 2, and I'm coming over from a Sony A7c. I have a single Fuji lens, the 35 1.4 as I care more about rendering than sharpness (one of the reasons I moved from Sony). I am having the hardest time hitting shots with the AF, but when I do I think the shots are gorgeous. I'm going to keep at it, because I'm liking the overall experience. I'm hoping it's just my technique or settings, but I'm wondering what the heck is going on and whether there are tricks to this body. I am also wondering if it's specific to this lens, but I have no other lens to compare. Any suggestions?


Sep 22, 2022 at 09:27 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · AF on X-Pro 2. I'm struggling.


Its one of the first trinity of lenses (28/2 Pancake, 35/1.4, 60/2.4 macro) and they all have quite slow autofocus compared to newer lenses. At least the 35/1.4 and 60/2.4 are optically amazing though. The 28/2 archieves mixed reactions, some love it massively others think its the worst of all Fujifilm lenses.

Why you cannot successfully focus is a bit of a mystery though, the X-Pro 2 shouldnt have any problems with that.



Sep 23, 2022 at 03:40 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · AF on X-Pro 2. I'm struggling.


Maybe I'm expecting too much? The Sony is a few years newer technology. I'm not missing all the time just a lot more than the Sony. Maybe I'll pick up the 28 to compare. It sounds like a convenient lens to have anyway.

Sauseschritt wrote:
Its one of the first trinity of lenses (28/2 Pancake, 35/1.4, 60/2.4 macro) and they all have quite slow autofocus compared to newer lenses. At least the 35/1.4 and 60/2.4 are optically amazing though. The 28/2 archieves mixed reactions, some love it massively others think its the worst of all Fujifilm lenses.

Why you cannot successfully focus is a bit of a mystery though, the X-Pro 2 shouldnt have any problems with that.




Sep 23, 2022 at 05:10 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · AF on X-Pro 2. I'm struggling.


I have heard the AF on that lens is nightmarish by modern standards. Never owned it. I remember the people at Adorama putting that lens on an XT2 when I went to trade it in and just the noise alone from that lens made me never want to get it. I imagine it's fine for posed portraits and a no go for more random moving street photography.


Sep 23, 2022 at 06:49 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · AF on X-Pro 2. I'm struggling.


I have two X Pro 2 bodies, and I have used them hard since they came out. The AF has more in common with the older Fujifilm bodies, meaning that it's very quick in Single Shot AF and basically useless in Continuous AF. It's quite usable for street and other types of candid work with the right technique.

So, for best results, I use Single Shot AF with a single focus point, and I use the thumb stud to move the point where I need it. Make sure the focus point is only covering the subject, and doesn't include any background - the AF system will focus on the most contrasty object inside the focus box. If my subject is moving, I use the "mash the shutter" technique -- put the focus box on the subject and gently mash down on the shutter button all the way - don't stop at the half-press setting and wait for the camera to focus. This was a very useful technique with the first-gen Fuji cameras, and it still works well with the XP2. The camera will autofocus and make a photo, and the AF is quick enough that most moving subjects will be sharp even wide open. Then completely release the shutter and do it again.

I used gaffer's tape on the S-C-M switch on the front of the camera to keep it in Single AF all the time.

The 35/1.4 is an excellent lens for a lot of subjects. For me, it often renders best wide open, and when I look at a folder in Lightroom of mixed Fuji photos, the ones shot with that lens wide open always pop out. I got the new 33mm f/1.4 for when I need a clinically excellent lens, but I keep going back to the 35mm for the soft corners and dreamy look.

Also, try the Astia color profile ("film simulation") for general purpose use. If you shoot raw and use Lightroom, make sure you add the Fuji color profiles in the Develop module so you have access to them.



Sep 23, 2022 at 07:09 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · AF on X-Pro 2. I'm struggling.


JadedWriter wrote:
I have heard the AF on that lens is nightmarish by modern standards. Never owned it. I remember the people at Adorama putting that lens on an XT2 when I went to trade it in and just the noise alone from that lens made me never want to get it. I imagine it's fine for posed portraits and a no go for more random moving street photography.


Any recommendations on a better lens with that special rendering? I do not want a clinical super sharp image.




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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · AF on X-Pro 2. I'm struggling.


Victor Santos wrote:
Maybe I'm expecting too much? The Sony is a few years newer technology. I'm not missing all the time just a lot more than the Sony. Maybe I'll pick up the 28 to compare. It sounds like a convenient lens to have anyway.


Yes, you're expecting too much. The Fuji will never focus as well as your old Sony. Don't expect it to get better with a different lens (or even a newer camera, up to and including the XT-4). It may get faster, but it won't get better.



Sep 23, 2022 at 10:19 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · AF on X-Pro 2. I'm struggling.


jecottrell wrote:
Yes, you're expecting too much. The Fuji will never focus as well as your old Sony. Don't expect it to get better with a different lens (or even a newer camera, up to and including the XT-4). It may get faster, but it won't get better.


Good to know. I think at least that will help with expectations. I'll keep at it with this lens then for AF and just work on my technique. I thought about resetting the camera to stock, thinking maybe I screwed up something.




Sep 23, 2022 at 10:29 AM
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kenbennett wrote:
I have two X Pro 2 bodies, and I have used them hard since they came out. The AF has more in common with the older Fujifilm bodies, meaning that it's very quick in Single Shot AF and basically useless in Continuous AF. It's quite usable for street and other types of candid work with the right technique.

So, for best results, I use Single Shot AF with a single focus point, and I use the thumb stud to move the point where I need it. Make sure the focus point is only covering the subject, and doesn't include any background
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I also use the XPro2 for travel and (mostly) street phtography, and the 35mm f/1.4 is one of the lenses I use, particularly for handheld night street photography.

I also use it in single shot AF mode, though I tend to use the smallest AF area rather than a single point. (I think that generally mirrorless systems do better if they evaluate a small area rather than a point.)

I understand the "mash" the shutter technique, though I often prefer to pre-focus (if you will) with the half-press first when possible since it lets me confirm that the AF points are activated on the right elements of the scene. (Truth be told, there isn't always time for that with street, though.)

I agree that continuous AF is probably not a good option here. With it on, it seems to me that there is a danger that the camera will move off the desired subject if it gets "distracted" by something else in the scene. In addition, continuous AF is using battery power unnecessarily in most cases. (I might turn it on in a few specific cases...)

I've had the 35mm f/1.4 for about a decade. It gets a bad rap from some folks today, partly I think because they assume that any old lens must be deficient and any newer model must be a vastly-improved upgrade. Newer lenses do provide more options and some kinds of benefits, but often not to the extent we might hope. I'll spare you the details, but I carefully tested the fine 35mm f/2 lens side-by-side with the f/1.4 at one point, thinking that it would AF faster based on reports. If it did, I could not tell. I kept the f/1.4.

The XPro2 is not going to equal the AF speed of newer cameras or of some cameras from other manufacturers. That's rarely an issue, and it works quite well for the vast majority of my photography... and I still use it for street photography with great success. (Though these days I'm most likely to have the new version of the 27mm f/2.8 on the camera.)

If I were you, I'd spend some time photographing with the combo until you are more familiar with its strengths and weaknesses... and I think you'll figure out how to use it effectively.

Dan



Sep 23, 2022 at 11:27 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · AF on X-Pro 2. I'm struggling.


kenbennett wrote:
I have two X Pro 2 bodies, and ....


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gdanmitchell wrote:
I also use the XPro2 for travel and (mostly) street phtography, and the 35mm f/1.4 is one of the lenses I use, particularly for handheld night street photography...


Thank you for those replies. I think they frame what I should be expecting out of the body. I will keep at it, but plan to shoot moving forward purely in S. I'll try shutter button mashing. I tried using back button focus rather than the half shutter focus mode, but I'll reset that. I'm using the camera mostly to take photos of my 1.5 year old, who is really active at the moment, and I'm just taking a ton of shots, and picking the best of the bunch. I hate that that's my technique at the moment, but I'm catching moments with it.

Victor



Sep 23, 2022 at 12:18 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · AF on X-Pro 2. I'm struggling.


I’m also going to endorse the AF-S and “mash the shutter button” method. But I’ll add, if the T2 is anything like my T4 - make sure AF priority is set to “focus” rather than “release” and make sure AF+MF, if available, is DISabled.


Sep 24, 2022 at 08:23 AM







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