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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Wide angle dilemma


I am ready to add a wide angle lens to my Canon bag. I use both the R5 and R3. I am having a hard time deciding on either the RF15-35 2.8 or the RF14-35 F4. I was going to go with an EF 16-35 2.8 VII, but I think I want to start acquiring more native RF glass. Watching and reading reviews of the two lenses really doesn't help as so many are conflicting. Has anyone tried both of there? What are your thoughts?


Sep 22, 2022 at 06:05 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Wide angle dilemma


I bought the 15-35 f/2.8 after trying the 14-35 f/4 in the store. Too much distortion on the 14mm end for me. YMMV


Sep 22, 2022 at 06:15 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Wide angle dilemma


for me, it's the size, weight, and price of the RF f4 L's that make all the difference.


Sep 22, 2022 at 06:24 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Wide angle dilemma


Id go with the EF version. It has the added versatility of using the drop in filter adapters over the RF versions. Both of your cameras have IS which makes the built in IS of the more expensive RF versions a moot point.

If 16 is wide enough for you there is little reason to go RF.

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Sep 22, 2022 at 08:39 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Wide angle dilemma


Going with an EF mount means there are many other excellent 3rd party options too. Depends if your priority is the mount type, or IQ and price...


Sep 22, 2022 at 08:43 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Wide angle dilemma


If you don't shoot the 14-35 at 14mm and stick to 16mm+ range is the distortion still there? Or is it just at the very wide end from 14-16mm?


Sep 22, 2022 at 09:22 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Wide angle dilemma


You did not say what you wanted to do with the wa lens.

I have lots of WA. 12mm Laowa, zeiss 15mm, 15mm Laowa macro shift, voight 15 v2, canon rf16/2.8, 17mm canon shift, rf15-30, canon ts24, zeiss 25/2, canon ef24-105 and more. I plan to buy the 9mm Loawa and adapt to ef and the ef 15mm laowa shift because I am often really close to mountains.

I bought the zeiss lens for night shooting. Fast, sharp, and hard stop at infinity.

I have the EF ts17 and EF Ts 24 and ef24-105f4 for my go to landscape lens. WIthout shift I end up with bowed trees or throw away resolution to fix. The EF-RF flip in adapter lets me have one nd set up for all EF lens and its great for me. The ef laowa 12 is when the mountains are quite close.

I have the Rf16, RF15-30, and RF24-105 f4-7.1 for backpacking for weight. And either carry 15-30 alone or 16+24-105 if there are far opportunities. These lens are inexpensive but good enough that anyone on a budget for landscape should not hesitate to have them on all the tiem.

On rare occasions when I shoot buildings, its with the shift lens - eg architechure.

My advise for landscape, is pick your lens for range, weight, speed, shift (functional stuff) rather than IQ because f8 and beyond (landscape) they are mostly indistinquishable. eg the 15-30 weighs 1/2 as much as the 14-35 but neither are shift so I would not use them much if weight was not a factor. Thus the lightweight for hiking and shift for close to the car.

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Sep 22, 2022 at 11:35 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Wide angle dilemma


I'd probably get the EF f/4 vs 2.8 v2. Or newer but unfortunately discontinued EF 17-35 tamron.

Interesting I hadn't heard of the 15-30.



Sep 22, 2022 at 11:43 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Wide angle dilemma


AmbientMike wrote:
I'd probably get the EF f/4 vs 2.8 v2. Or newer but unfortunately discontinued EF 17-35 tamron.

Interesting I hadn't heard of the 15-30.


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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Wide angle dilemma


Alan Kefauver wrote:
I bought the 15-35 f/2.8 after trying the 14-35 f/4 in the store. Too much distortion on the 14mm end for me. YMMV


That distortion is an intentional part of the lens' design and is meant to be corrected digitally. (In fact, you cannot disable distortion correction for this lens in-camera.) It is actually wider than stated at 14mm to account for the corrections.

That might be reason enough for you to rule it out, of course. I just mentioned it in case you were unaware.

I presume that Canon's published MTF curves include these corrections. Performance at the periphery seems to be competitive with other ultrawide zooms. In fact, at some focal lengths it seems to outperform the RF 15-35 f/2.8 at the edges:

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=1569&Camera=1508&Sample=0&FLI=2&API=0&LensComp=1414&CameraComp=1508&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=1&APIComp=0



Sep 22, 2022 at 12:31 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Wide angle dilemma


As mentioned above, it matters what you will be using it for.

On full frame, the widest lens with the least distortion is, IMHO, the Rokinon 12mm f/2.8 FE. It has a fantastic rectilinear projection that will make you love it. Some folks whine that it is manual focus only. If you are using autofocus on a lens this wide, you don't understand UWA photography.

When I want extreme DOF, I use the Sigma 8-16mm on APS-c. The only way to improve on that is focus stacking. Why bother, when you can get 95% of the way there with one shot?




Sep 23, 2022 at 08:30 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Wide angle dilemma


I owned the RF 16mm f/2.8 and had this same dilemma, except I found all the best UWA options here to be on another brand so I just swapped 😂


Sep 24, 2022 at 03:49 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Wide angle dilemma


You wanted a EF 2.8 zoom so I'd go with the RF 2.8 zoom.

I'd only go with the RF 4.0 zoom if cost & weight are a concern



Sep 24, 2022 at 07:12 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Wide angle dilemma


RKnecht wrote:
I am ready to add a wide angle lens to my Canon bag. I use both the R5 and R3. I am having a hard time deciding on either the RF15-35 2.8 or the RF14-35 F4. I was going to go with an EF 16-35 2.8 VII, but I think I want to start acquiring more native RF glass. Watching and reading reviews of the two lenses really doesn't help as so many are conflicting. Has anyone tried both of there? What are your thoughts?


What do you photograph?



Sep 24, 2022 at 08:01 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Wide angle dilemma


Thanks for all the input folks. As someone mentioned, since I was looking at a used 16-35 2.8, I decided to go with the RF 15-35 2.8


Sep 28, 2022 at 07:01 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Wide angle dilemma


Good call. I've been really pleased with it.


Sep 28, 2022 at 07:14 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Wide angle dilemma


Jesse Evans wrote:
Id go with the EF version. It has the added versatility of using the drop in filter adapters over the RF versions.


Excellent point.



Oct 05, 2022 at 12:05 PM







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