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p.8 #12 · p.8 #12 · Swap Leica M11 for Hasselblad X2D? SL2-S? Or back to Sony mirrorless? | |
ebornstein wrote:
To the OP, so where have you landed or in what direction are you leaning?
I have a very similar issue. I have both a Sony system and the M11. I really love the M for its output, somehow my M photos always make me smile, especially with the 35 APO M.
I travel a lot and have used the A1 and A7RIV a ton for Safari, etc but for walking around I really enjoy the M with the 35. I do struggle with the framing more than focus, I can see the patch and get clean images but I spend a fair amount of time looking around in the view finder to make sure I have what I want in the frame.
The other issue for me is switching lenses, when I am walking around I really don’t enjoy switching lenses and often just ignore the urge, especially if I am in a busy market or street or on a moving vehicle ( boat, bus, etc ). So for me, the ability to zoom is important.
I have and used the SL2 with the 24-90 but it is just to big and bulky for me, I love the handling and IQ but I can’t get into carrying it all day. For a short walk around the house or just in the car it is great as long as the subject isn’t moving to quickly.
My wife and I are traveling to Asia for a two month trip and we will have to pack really light so we can move around easily. I really want to take the M but I think I am going to end up taking the Sony A7R5 ( sold the a7r4, primarily for the improved EVF and IBIS) with the 24-70GM II, 35 1.4 GM and the 40mm 2.5 for a small walk around.
I would love to hear where you landed....Show more →
I’m not the OP but I’ve had the X2D since release and have done some travel with it now. I still have my M11, SL2 and Sony systems. Plus a few otherswhich I’ll menstion. I have some thoughts.
1. The IQ of the X2D continues to impress. I knew it would as I have a GFX100S system as well. The IBIS is incredible. The EVF is the best I’ve used. It’s beautiful. AF is *fast enough* but is lens dependant. Great with the new V lenses or the old zoom. Good with the old 90 (new one hasn’t arrived), 30 and 21. Less so with the 45, 45P 80 and 120 macro.
2. The biggest single issue as a travel camera is the same as the X1D. There’s only one short zoom. It’s possibly the best zoom on the market but you will be swapping out lenses. You might get away with the zoom, the excellent 55V and 90mm, which would give you a 28-71mm coverage with a couple of fastish primes. I need something longer, generally which means the 135, which is not a small lens. This is fine for me. I’m OK with a medium sized kit.
3. The f2.5 lenses may seem a bit slow compared to your 35mm 1.4 but the HB IBIS is better than my A7R3 by some margin, which more than makes up for it.
4. The M11 is MUCH smaller. You can put three lenses in a tiny bum bag and swap lenses quickly. I use the smallest LowPro and added a belt loop clip for security. Changing lenses takes seconds. I also keep the EVF in thereif I need the most percise framing.
5. After having the X2D for a few months it’s still my most used camera. I do use the SL2, GFX, M11 etc but the X2D is over half of my use. You don’t get tired of it.
6. If I am travelling around a town I’d actually take my GFX100S, even though I prefer the X2D. I can carry three zooms and the 80mm (probably replaces by the upcoming 55 1.9) in my smallest Wandred backpack. I can do the same with the X2D but it’s heavier (I don’t mind) and it means a few more lens changes.
7. The X2D and zoom are almost exactly the same as the SL2 and 24-90 so it might not be a walk around for you. The IQ and IBIS is better though. The SL2 has better SAF and more range.
8. I don’t generally get any joy shooting SOny cameras. There’s no denying their capabilities. I just don’t like them. It’s a bias you should be aware of. I’m currently trialling a Fuji XH2 with the 150-600 for a Safari I have in the middle of the year but the A7RV and 200-600 are still tempting me. I also have the SL2 and Sigma 150-600 but I’m not convinced on the SIgma. More testing will follow. I’m having mixed results with the X mount lenses.
9. For me access to lenses is vital so I prefer slings/waitbags in cities and backpacks if I need to do any serious walking. Shoulder bags are too much strain on my neck and shoulders.
I don’t need to consolodate. I can have more than one system. And I enjoy it. I’m coming to some overall conclusions for my travel kits though.
a: For trips where I have to travel light or a bigger bag will get in the way. M11. CV20 Ultron, 50mm APO, 90mm macro, WATE. EVF. All in a LowePro Bumbag with the camera over my shoulder. Lens changes take seconds like this.
b; Preferred general walking kit: X2D. 21, 35-75, 90, 135, 55V. Camera ove shoulder and lenses in a Wandrd daily carry backpack or Wandred medium waist pack. Often I’ll leve the zoom at home/hotel safe. I like primes generally although zooms are just easier to live with.
c: Single lens walkaround. X2D with 55V on a sling strap.
d: General travel where I’m not sure what I need. GFX100S, 20-35, 45-100, 100-200 and 80mm 1.9 in a Wandred Privike lite backpack. Best travel backpack ever.
e: Full kit including widlife: GFX100S: 20-35, 45-100, 100-200, 55 1.9 (when it’s released. currently 50mm) 80mm. XH2, 150-600. GuraGear 32L.
f; Super flexible kit without wildlife: SL2, 14-24, 24-90, 90-280, 28, 50, 90 APO’s. Wandred Privike 21L. This is my alternative to your Sony because every lens in this kit is outrageously good and the Leica IBIS is better than Sony’s. Some of the kit may end up in the safe for the day. I could have the body and primes or just the 24-90 or the whole thing.
That looks complictaed written down but it’s actually pretty straight forward. I take a miniMF camera when I can. M11 when I can’t and specialist gear when needed. Sometime the SL2 because it’s my *do it almost all* kit.
Too much gear too little time…..
If you want to take the M11, then take it. That sounds what you want to do. Just sort out how to change lenses efficiently. That means not in a regular camera bag, generally. For decades M users kept a couple of lenses in a jacket pocket, double capped. I wouldn’t do that now for security reasons but a small waist bag does the same thing just with less theft risk.
I wouldn’t talk you out of the X2D though……
Gordon
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