Zeiss Batis 25mm or more modern 24mm?

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1bwana1 wrote:
I really like my Batis 25mm. It does render in a unique and attractive way. I am not so fond of the CA it suffers from in many circumstances. Compared to my small MF lenses it is quite large. I find when shooting wide lenses like this that MF using the Zone Focus system is even faster than any AF lens.

In my experience, zone focusing will exacerbate the CA problem: the CA is mostly longitudinal, so it shows up when you (slightly) misfocus. The plane of focus will hardly have any CA.

Sep 14, 2023 at 03:25 PM

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Sndr wrote:
In my experience, zone focusing will exacerbate the CA problem: the CA is mostly longitudinal, so it shows up when you (slightly) misfocus. The plane of focus will hardly have any CA.

I can see from rereading my post where I was not clear. I shoot my Batis 25 in AF mode almost exclusively. The focus by wire and LED range window is not a great system for MF for me. I have other Leica, and Voigtlander MF lenses in wide FL lengths that I was referring to when I say that I find the Zone Focus systems works brilliantly for.

The CA I experience is some circumstances with the Batis 25 is not a result of MF issues.

Sep 14, 2023 at 11:20 PM

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p.6 #3 · p.6 #3 · Zeiss Batis 25mm or more modern 24mm?

I have seen little in comparison between the Batis and Loxia 25.

Maybe someone having owned/compared both could chime in?

Sep 18, 2023 at 04:45 PM

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p.6 #4 · p.6 #4 · Zeiss Batis 25mm or more modern 24mm?

Knut. wrote:
I have seen little in comparison between the Batis and Loxia 25.

Maybe someone having owned/compared both could chime in?

From my experience, currently owning one copy of each:

Loxia 25/2.4 is an amazing lens by anyone's standards. It is quite sharp when wide open, from edge to edge. Gentle and appealing light falloff/vignetting to about f/4.0. Very little (if any) field curvature or CA. Great color and contrast -- very crisp and true. Amazing sunstars! At its best from f/4.0, but looks great even wide open at f/2.4. Surprisingly dense/weighty body (as with most Loxia) -- but quite small in length and girth. I generally prefer MF lenses, and this is top of the heap, especially paired with Sony a7R4 viewfinder magnification. I'd say Loxia is at least in top five of my all-time best FF lenses, and likely my favorite MF lens.

Batis 25/2 is excellent (had a friend with a problem Batis 25 -- focusing/tilted element -- on a brand new one, and got it replaced easily by Samy's in Pasadena, and the new one is great). Batis has an extra 1/2 stop, with f/2.0. Color is nearly as good as Loxia. Sharpness not quite as good, but still pretty great. So-so sunstars -- blah. Focusing is very accurate on mine -- I'm generally paranoid about AF mis-focus on critical scenes. Slight barrel distortion. Slight CA fringing -- not bad, but more than Loxia at wider apertures. More vignetting than Loxia, but looks good at f/4.0-5.6 -- the vignetting often adds to landscape shots, especially in woods. Chubby like all Batis models, but very light weight overall. A real pleasure to use its AF, making it easier to frame subjects.

If I were forced to choose one over the other, it would be to keep the Loxia. But . . . I would prefer to keep and use both!

Good used prices here on FM B&S for both Zeiss series. I've bought all mine here and had very good luck with them -- only a Batis 40 that couldn't be fixed and was easily returned -- the second one is terrific one of my favorites! Buy with confidence.

Hope this helps!

Sep 18, 2023 at 05:37 PM

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p.6 #5 · p.6 #5 · Zeiss Batis 25mm or more modern 24mm?

Thank you, I was already leaning to the Loxia this settles it 😊

Sep 19, 2023 at 02:58 AM

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