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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

I use vertical grips on all my cameras that don't have one built-in. That's not going to happen with the R7 and looking at it, I think I might want some protection for the bottom edge which often rubs against me as I walk and move.

The EG-E1 won't fit, and I'm not up on the Kirk and RRS offerings but a quick search didn't show anything appealing.

Any ideas--particularly something that still gives relatively easy access to the battery?

Aug 23, 2022 at 06:53 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

There isn't, there is no plan to be either.

I have massive hands and have no problem with it really. I do have a small rigs cage however on them now for video (which I haven't really done) and find it pretty nice for protection.

Aug 24, 2022 at 09:02 AM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

Given that there are no holes in the base plate for alignment pins, it appears that the R7 was never designed for an extension grip like the RP.

I suspect that over time some full width L brackets will become available with removable side plates that could provide some length extension for the bottom of the camera.

Aug 24, 2022 at 09:45 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

People have been able to pick up a grip for the 20D, and with some small modifications, it will fit pretty nicely onto the bottom of the R7. Of course, it would only serve as a adding a larger "handprint" for holding the camera more sturdily.

Aug 24, 2022 at 09:48 AM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

Gaffer’s tape.

Aug 24, 2022 at 11:51 AM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

Not even a fitted arca plate yet. I have a lot of generic plates lying around but the R7 is so small they stick out beyond the lens mount and/or rear screen. The Smallrig cage is the only fitted design I've seen so far, but I just want a simple plate that won't twist.

Aug 24, 2022 at 12:43 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

Random side comment:

Usually, manufacturers rarely miss an opportunity to offer accessories which can be sold at higher margins to increase profits.

I personally find it completely baffling that Canon chose not to offer a vertical battery grip for the R7, just on this justification alone. The performance and feature set of the R7 certainly suggest that Canon was targeting a demographic that would purchase such an accessory.

It just feels like Cannon is needlessly leaving potential revenue and profits on the table, which is assuredly not like them.

Aug 24, 2022 at 04:13 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

I have never wanted or needed an add-on grip for any camera I have ever owned, just like many other people. Even providing the optional connections for adding one would have added to the cost. It is Canon’s first APS-C MLC and they did a great job.

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Aug 24, 2022 at 04:51 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

garyvot wrote:
Random side comment:

Usually, manufacturers rarely miss an opportunity to offer accessories which can be sold at higher margins to increase profits.

I personally find it completely baffling that Canon chose not to offer a vertical battery grip for the R7, just on this justification alone. The performance and feature set of the R7 certainly suggest that Canon was targeting a demographic that would purchase such an accessory.

It just feels like Cannon is needlessly leaving potential revenue and profits on the table, which is assuredly not like them.

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Imagemaster wrote:
I have never wanted or needed an add-on grip for any camera I have ever owned, just like many other people. Even providing the optional connections for adding one would have added to the cost. It is Canon’s first APS-C MLC and they did a great job.

Canon

I'm with garyvot on this. The way Canon prices grips and other accessories, they're missing out on a good bit of revenue. It seems like even if only 30% or so bought the grip (and I think that number could be a little low) that would be decent money.

Also, to explain a little better why I'm looking for some protection... I realized if I'm walking around with the R7 and say a 70-200/2.8, with the normal straps I use over my shoulder, it will hang at such an angle that the bottom of the screen will rub on my clothes. A battery grip, which I consider almost disposable, protects it by moving the bottom of the camera away and takes the abuse--not to mention having a much easier way to shoot vertical.

I realize there will NEVER be a vertical grip for the R7 because Canon did not incorporate a way to communicate the controls.

Aug 24, 2022 at 06:30 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

garyvot wrote:
I personally find it completely baffling that Canon chose not to offer a vertical battery grip for the R7, just on this justification alone. The performance and feature set of the R7 certainly suggest that Canon was targeting a demographic that would purchase such an accessory.

The R7 is basically an xxD grade body, so it should have a battery grip like the Canon BG-E14 for the 70D/80D/90D. However, I just want an extension grip on the bottom, like the one for the RP.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images1500x1500/canon_3485c001_eg_e1_extension_grip_red_1459348.jpg

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Aug 24, 2022 at 06:43 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

Al Goldis wrote:
I realize there will NEVER be a vertical grip for the R7 because Canon did not incorporate a way to communicate the controls.

I think it is possible that we could see some third party battery grips similar to those produced for the EOS RP and the Rebel SL models. These usually use a remote release cable to make the connection for the vertical shutter release button.

https://www.amazon.com/Vello-BG-C18-Battery-Mirrorless-Camera/dp/B08QH6VYZY/ref=pd_lpo_3?pd_rd_i=B08QH6VYZY&psc=1

You obviously don't get a vertical AF joystick or Quick Control Dial, and the external cable might seem a little clunky, but I used one of these on an SL1 for a time and it wasn't so bad (given the lack of other options).

Aug 24, 2022 at 06:44 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

garyvot wrote:
I think it is possible that we could see some third party battery grips similar to those produced for the EOS RP and the Rebel SL models. These usually use a remote release cable to make the connection for the vertical shutter release button.

https://www.amazon.com/Vello-BG-C18-Battery-Mirrorless-Camera/dp/B08QH6VYZY/ref=pd_lpo_3?pd_rd_i=B08QH6VYZY&psc=1

You obviously don't get a vertical AF joystick or Quick Control Dial, and the external cable might seem a little clunky, but I used one of these on an SL1 for a time and it wasn't so bad (given the lack of other options).

The R7 works with the BR-E1 Wireless Remote Controller, so a shutter button on a vertical grip could be designed with Bluetooth and even have an AF-on button like the BR-E1.

Aug 25, 2022 at 03:02 AM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

Al Goldis wrote:
I'm with garyvot on this. The way Canon prices grips and other accessories, they're missing out on a good bit of revenue. It seems like even if only 30% or so bought the grip (and I think that number could be a little low) that would be decent money.

Also, to explain a little better why I'm looking for some protection... I realized if I'm walking around with the R7 and say a 70-200/2.8, with the normal straps I use over my shoulder, it will hang at such an angle that the bottom of the screen will rub on my...Show more →

I would say that 3% would be closer to how many would buy the grip, not 30%. e.g. I would bet that less than 1% of all the photos posted on this site are vertical shots. Just like most images on TV's and computer monitors.

Most vertical images are portrait shots of people. Shooting vertical shots without a grip has never been an issue for me, and probably many others.

Once again, just put Gaffer's tape on areas that may rub, or carry your camera differently. Since you believe there will NEVER be a vertical grip for the R7, there is no use complaining about it, adapt to not having one on it, or don't buy the camera.

Aug 25, 2022 at 10:18 AM

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Imagemaster wrote:
Since you believe there will NEVER be a vertical grip for the R7, there is no use complaining about it, adapt to not having one on it, or don't buy the camera.

I'll complain about whatever I want to complain about, thank you very much.

As for "don't buy the camera," that ship has already sailed--and I don't have a time machine.

I'm not putting gaffers tape on it, but also I don't think some brassing and scratches on a $1500 camera is the end of the world.

Aug 26, 2022 at 02:15 PM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

Al Goldis wrote:
I'll complain about whatever I want to complain about, thank you very much.

Dang right you can, and as my wife tells me when I complain: "Tell someone other than me."

As for "don't buy the camera," that ship has already sailed--and I don't have a time machine.

Aha, buyer's remorse because you did not figure that out before buying.

I'm not putting gaffers tape on it, but also I don't think some brassing and scratches on a $1500 camera is the end of the world.

Okay. I guess an old-timer like you can recollect that they used to make leather cases for camera protection. Never used one, and never worried about some brassing and scratches on a bunch of cameras I have used over more than 50 years.

Aug 26, 2022 at 05:28 PM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

Imagemaster wrote:
Most vertical images are portrait shots of people. Shooting vertical shots without a grip has never been an issue for me, and probably many others.

There are other uses of vertical images--for example, for me, I shoot a lot of cycling vertically. Sailboats are strangely tall, so I like using it there too. If you shoot a lot in that position a lot, the grip does help, and clearly, there must be a use for it as the 1 series and 3 series have them integrated. Just because you don't find it useful doesn't mean other photographers don't--

What I do agree with you on is that that Canon has probably figured out the number of customers who buy an R7/R10/RP and a grip likely do not justify the extra work and cost designing, tooling and ranging an extra product, whereas an R5/R6 purchaser does. Especially now that they're liking selling fewer system cameras overall, they probably felt there was a better use of engineering resources like mechanical designers on say, vlogging accessories or video microphone mounts for markets that are growing.

That's a shame, as I've always liked the grip feature and had them on my 5D1, 5D2, 20D, 40D and 7D2, so much so that I even designed a grip extender for my RP.

Aug 26, 2022 at 09:32 PM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

I didn’t say other photographers do not find grips desirable for vertical shooting. If you do, then you buy a camera that has that feature. No point complaining about a $1500 camera that does not have that feature, unless you enjoy complaining about options less expensive cameras don’t have.

Aug 26, 2022 at 09:42 PM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

Well actually, I'm constantly upset at Canon for removing or restricting features from less expensive models to protect their market segmentation, but...you're right in that there's not a lot I can do about it.

In fact, they were doing it from day 1...like removing AI Servo from all modes in the EOS300D, even though the EOS10D had identical hardware and firmware.

Aug 26, 2022 at 09:57 PM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

My Rebel had a handgrip option many years ago and it was far less expensive camera back when the good cameras were not. As well the xxD all had that a grip option.

Perhaps Canon just doesn't sell enough accessories nowadays to make it worthwhile. Maybe they will add it to the Mk II.

EBH

Aug 26, 2022 at 10:15 PM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · R7 - is there something like the Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip for bottom protection?

I think they sold a lot more Rebels back then. One thing which I was surprised to hear was the R7 was only $1500USD or $2000CAD. Maybe they indeed are targeting a different customer now.

Aug 26, 2022 at 10:22 PM

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